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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
And now tell me where the mobs in those levels are and how many there are in NF and GWEN and you'll see why its even more rare than prophicies or factions.
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It's official, they still drop
kerpall
Lady Yuna
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Originally Posted by kerpall
sure there arent lots of places, but all the places have been played by hundreds of thousands of people each, and not 1 of them got a r7 max?
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kerpall
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Originally Posted by Lady Yuna
the chances are, they probably DO get a r7 from time to time, but just not gold or maybe even purple. And people only show off with the GOLD lower reqs. And how do YOU know that none of the thousands of people never got a r7?
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Never once has a legit r7 inscribable item ever shown up on guru, in kamadan, LA, or even Kaineng. The only r7 inscribable's i've seen were fakes
, like that r7 inscribable crystalline 
.I can believe un-inscr r7's still dropping at a super low drop rate. But, inscribable r7's have never dropped yet (aside from -1 from max shields). This could either be a glitch in the system or they were never implemented ingame when they introduced the "Inscribable weapons system".
The Rift
I do not believe req.7 inscriptable item's do drop, like others in this topic i share the opinion i still need to see legit proof of that no matter what gaile/john or president bush says .
But i do believe that req.7 items do still drop in prophecies/faction area.
Lot of old req.7 have been found around Maguuma Jungle/Crystal Desert in prophecies, and from Afflicted / Star's in faction's. ( maby even more area's, but that's the one's i know from )
But place's/creature's like the one's called above are empty these day's. oke maby the couple title hunter's here and there, but most people are in the newest/elite area's from Guild Wars(EoTN).
The droprate of these req.7 items are just extremely low, and the chance people making a screenshot of this is even lower, cause i see some people here think that guildwarsguru has every person that's playing Guild Wars register'd and read the forum eatch day.
Peace everyone, Greetzz Auracuz.
.But i do believe that req.7 items do still drop in prophecies/faction area.
Lot of old req.7 have been found around Maguuma Jungle/Crystal Desert in prophecies, and from Afflicted / Star's in faction's. ( maby even more area's, but that's the one's i know from )
But place's/creature's like the one's called above are empty these day's. oke maby the couple title hunter's here and there, but most people are in the newest/elite area's from Guild Wars(EoTN).
The droprate of these req.7 items are just extremely low, and the chance people making a screenshot of this is even lower, cause i see some people here think that guildwarsguru has every person that's playing Guild Wars register'd and read the forum eatch day.
Peace everyone, Greetzz Auracuz.
Earth
Manitoba, didn't you say you had an inscripable r7? Post a picture and people might believe you. Just because some dev said something doesn't make it a fact.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Earth
Manitoba, didn't you say you had an inscripable r7? Post a picture and people might believe you. Just because some dev said something doesn't make it a fact.
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manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
He posted a pic, but blacked out the damage. The gold value of the item would suggest it was non-max.
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I had a pic but the pic i had was the only one i had of it.
Earth
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
I surprised you said about the value. As you as most people should know the value doesnt make an item max damage.
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Malice Black
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
I surprised you said about the value. As you as most people should know the value doesnt make an item max damage.
I had a pic but the pic i had was the only one i had of it. |
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
I surprised you said about the value. As you as most people should know the value doesnt make an item max damage.
I had a pic but the pic i had was the only one i had of it. |
bu*cough*i*cough*
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Right, because you just merchanted an item potentially worth millions which could prove your point and don't have any more screen shots right?
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I have given away crystalinne swords ingame.
I merchant 95% of the crap I find in game. I find these daggers I have much better and more appealing than those daggers were.
PinoyRurik
given away a crystalline sword?!
whitewasabi ur lying...
prove me wrong =D
whitewasabi ur lying...
prove me wrong =D
manitoba1073
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given away a crystalline sword?!
whitewasabi ur lying... prove me wrong =D |
kerpall
I agree with Arcanus, with all of these people that played Nightfall, killing mobs level 15-19, i don't see how no body has ever seen a Max inscribable r7. Even if it wasnt worth anything, and was blue, i'm sure collectors would still pay through the roof for it. The only time i can see a r7 inscribable ever dropping would maybe be during the preview event. Just like purple inscribable Crystalline's during GW:en preview.
politicsxxox
i would like john to show me proof. I dont trust john. Maybe John's lying? xD
Darksun
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Eh, Galie's been wrong before. And this "John" might not have understood the question. Still, I'll believe them. However...
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Originally Posted by politicsxxox
i would like john to show me proof. I dont trust john. Maybe John's lying? xD
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Can we stop for once with the excuses? People asked.. here's the answer.
HawkofStorms
Darksun, my post on the first page doesn't make any sense anymore since one of the mods edited out the second half after the "however..." That "however..." wasn't meant to be sarcastic. I go on to explain why I believe John. It was deleted because I told people not to troll.
NeHoMaR
Could someone explain me WHY someone would need a req7 weapon? Counting with this facts:
- If you really wanna be effective with a weapon, you need a minimum of 12 in the weapon attribute, more if possible, that means any req12 weapon is 100% the same as a req7 is you have 12 in the attribute.
- If you DON'T need actually use the weapon for make damage (a caster) you will have normally zero in the weapon attribute, that means even a req10000000 weapon works exactly as a req7.
- The requirement of a weapon is invisible to other players, so if you are a monk with a req13 Elemental Sword, no one will know ever, unless you trade and show, and more important, your build is NOT affected at all.
- If you really wanna be effective with a weapon, you need a minimum of 12 in the weapon attribute, more if possible, that means any req12 weapon is 100% the same as a req7 is you have 12 in the attribute.
- If you DON'T need actually use the weapon for make damage (a caster) you will have normally zero in the weapon attribute, that means even a req10000000 weapon works exactly as a req7.
- The requirement of a weapon is invisible to other players, so if you are a monk with a req13 Elemental Sword, no one will know ever, unless you trade and show, and more important, your build is NOT affected at all.
kerpall
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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
Could someone explain me WHY someone would need a req7 weapon?
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lol i don't know, because they are rare O.o People = pay lots if you find a r7.
Why do people buy 15k and FoW armour, 1.5k is the same?
It's to show how much more they pwn you.
I'm just out here to convince people they still drop, would i personally need a r7? no, but i wouldnt mind finding on to sell
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HawkofStorms
There are only 2 reasons to "need" a req 7:
1) Showing off wealth. Since they are rare, they are worth rich players who will buy them as colletors.
2) PvP shields. A req 7 shield could technically be usefully for somebody who wants a caster shield in PvP as it could provide an extra +8 armor.
1) Showing off wealth. Since they are rare, they are worth rich players who will buy them as colletors.
2) PvP shields. A req 7 shield could technically be usefully for somebody who wants a caster shield in PvP as it could provide an extra +8 armor.
NeHoMaR
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Originally Posted by kerpall
Why do people buy 15k and FoW armour, 1.5k is the same?
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afya
several probability:
1) John is lying
2) What John talking about, is the non-max
3) It's super rare and someone don't know its value and merched it
4) It's extreme rare and no one get one yet.
I'm going with 2)~lol
1) John is lying
2) What John talking about, is the non-max
3) It's super rare and someone don't know its value and merched it
4) It's extreme rare and no one get one yet.
I'm going with 2)~lol
Gift3d
Untill i see a screenshot of a max damage, INSCRIBABLE, r7 weapon... i don't believe it.
That's right, screenshot or it didn't happen.
That's right, screenshot or it didn't happen.
kerpall
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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
That comparison is out of place because when you are in FoW armor people can SEE it, if you have a req14 purple elemental sword people cannot see any difference with the req7 gold one. So, in short words, if you wanna show you are rich using low req weapons, so you must unequip it all the time and show it to others everywhere via trade window.
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People buy things out of rarity, if you can't afford a r7, then you wouldnt understand. They buy them for the sole reason "Just because i Can".
Aside from caster shields , or builds that don't require you to have 8 or higher tactics/strength but you want the full armor capabilities of your shield.
Lower req = less space wasted in one attribute.
They have no use, but being "elite".
added: Sure if people want the attention so bad, they can show it in trade, but its not as hard as you make it out to be. Showing somthing in trade*** (srry hand-brain co-ord isnt 100% atm) is about as hard as a straight person in a gay bar.
Another reason people buy them, is for the same reason people buy crap old collecter items. It was (and maybe still is) believed they stopped dropping. People want a piece of that last "r7" pie.
(although it still looks possible that r7 non inscr's still drop with an extremely low drop rate)
kerpall
Ugh.. All the sceptics asked for evidence. Evidence was provided by Anet Dev's. Now you are questioning the devs (cmon, they made the game! thats like questioning Einstein if E really equals Mc^2...)
maraxusofk
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Originally Posted by Lady Yuna
super rare, it's up for interpretation lol
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NeHoMaR
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Originally Posted by kerpall
People buy things out of rarity, if you can't afford a r7, then you wouldnt understand. They buy them for the sole reason "Just because i Can".
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Cacheelma
It's not showing in trade CHAT (as you can't do it). It's showing via TRADING with other people, which means they MUST accept the trade before you can show it. In other words, they must agree to HELP YOU BOOST YOUR EGO.
Other vanity items don't have this limitation. So as I said earlier, these low req items are either for collecting, or in the case of a shield, for some builds with low Str/Tactics/Command/Motivation. Not much else.
Oh trust me, Einstein, like any good scientists out there, could prove it to you if you've asked. He wouldn't say "believe me I'm Einstein" like how you suggest us to believe some radom John The Dev's words here.
It's not like we don't trust the developers, mind you; it's that Gaile's words are so vague which could lead to John's answering one thing that's not really what we want to know. So at the end of the day, both Gaile and John's words are up for interpretation.
Other vanity items don't have this limitation. So as I said earlier, these low req items are either for collecting, or in the case of a shield, for some builds with low Str/Tactics/Command/Motivation. Not much else.
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Originally Posted by kerpall
Ugh.. All the sceptics asked for evidence. Evidence was provided by Anet Dev's. Now you are questioning the devs (cmon, they made the game! thats like questioning Einstein if E really equals Mc^2...)
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It's not like we don't trust the developers, mind you; it's that Gaile's words are so vague which could lead to John's answering one thing that's not really what we want to know. So at the end of the day, both Gaile and John's words are up for interpretation.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by maraxusofk
gaile also said that the drop from the z chest that nobody got so far was also "super rare".
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That would REALLY be rare. Cant get any rarer than item with 0 copies existing and 0 chance to drop.
afya
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Originally Posted by kerpall
Ugh.. All the sceptics asked for evidence. Evidence was provided by Anet Dev's. Now you are questioning the devs (cmon, they made the game! thats like questioning Einstein if E really equals Mc^2...)
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Originally Posted by maraxusofk
gaile also said that the drop from the z chest that nobody got so far was also "super rare".
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Gift3d
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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
That comparison is out of place because when you are in FoW armor people can SEE it, if you have a req14 purple elemental sword people cannot see any difference with the req7 gold one. So, in short words, if you wanna show you are rich using low req weapons, so you must unequip it all the time and show it to others everywhere via trade window.
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You'd be surprised how many times i've been greatful for those R7's, and the times they have REALLY come in handy. In fact, i don't think i would've been able to beat that norn tournament so easily if it weren't for that R7 sword of mine... Maybe a r8 would have cut it, but not a r9.
kerpall
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Originally Posted by afya
Well Einstein gave info about the equation, while Devs only said there is a req7 drop. We don't know whether it is max?gold?inscri.?
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whether or not he was refering to inscribable or not is still unclear, but lets looks at it this way...
The thread was about "Do r7's still drop?" , and if r7 inscribable max items have never dropped yet, that rules them out.
Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
Well i have one R7 15^50 sword, and one R7 +30hp shield i keep for those "just in case" times. I don't ever flash them around though like a trophy. My r7's have ugly skins, they're just for their practical low-req. use.
You'd be surprised how many times i've been greatful for those R7's, and the times they have REALLY come in handy. In fact, i don't think i would've been able to beat that norn tournament so easily if it weren't for that R7 sword of mine... Maybe a r8 would have cut it, but not a r9. |
No offense, but if it's only a shield I'd understand. But if you use a sword with only 7 in Swordsmanship, you shouldn't even bother using a max damage sword; you won't get the maximum damage output from your sword attacks anyway. 15-22 or 14-20 or even 13-19 won't really make any different, especially in, what you said, NORN TOURNAMENT.
kerpall
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Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Then you were fooling yourself.
No offense, but if it's only a shield I'd understand. But if you use a sword with only 7 in Swordsmanship, you shouldn't even bother using a max damage sword; you won't get the maximum damage output from your sword attacks anyway. 15-22 or 14-20 or even 13-19 won't really make any different, especially in, what you said, NORN TOURNAMENT. |
It's called somthing, like umm... Balancing you attribute points, so that you arent spending unnecessary points.
kerpall
Very useful for mo/n 55 , utilizing any death magic skills? They have the benefit of +12 energy, with the benefit of not having to waste 12 attribute points in death, but just 7.
EDIT: good for 130 derv builds that may utilize death skills, and not use a scythe as their main weapon.
EDIT: good for 130 derv builds that may utilize death skills, and not use a scythe as their main weapon.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by kerpall
Hmm true, but i think its safe to assume that the dev would not waste his time explaining to us that r7 non-max's drop.
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Gaile: Hey, John - quick question from a player...
John: Sure, what's up?
Gaile: Do requirement 7 items still drop?
John: Yes.
Gaile: Great, thanks! (scuttles off to make infamous post)
Now, take that as you will. It's more than possible that many of the devs are not as *keen* on many aspects of GW as much as players are. This 'John' may very well be the dev who works on things like loot tables, etc. However, he may not know the immense value players have placed on low requirement max items, and might not realize the true implications of Gaile's question - thinking that she was simply asking if that specific requirement digit still exists in the game; max, non-max, doesn't matter.
The very fact that Gaile didn't specify max leaves the quote to misinterpretation, as 90% of her other quotes. Of course, a simple drive-by post from her to clarify this would fix everything and end the dispute. But, like any horrible movie based on plot holes, that would be far less interesting and would leave us with nothing to talk about.
kerpall
@ Gaile, answer our questions T_T , pleeeese.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
There was really no 'explanation' to be had, though. Gaile asked this guy if Requirement 7 items still drop, and he said "Yes," rather "definite and immediate." The actual convo could've gone like so:
Gaile: Hey, John - quick question from a player... John: Sure, what's up? Gaile: Do requirement 7 items still drop? John: Yes. Gaile: Great, thanks! (scuttles off to make infamous post) Now, take that as you will. It's more than possible that many of the devs are not as *keen* on many aspects of GW as much as players are. This 'John' may very well be the dev who works on things like loot tables, etc. However, he may not know the immense value players have placed on low requirement max items, and might not realize the true implications of Gaile's question - thinking that she was simply asking if that specific requirement digit still exists in the game; max, non-max, doesn't matter. The very fact that Gaile didn't specify max leaves the quote to misinterpretation, as 90% of her other quotes. Of course, a simple drive-by post from her to clarify this would fix everything and end the dispute. But, like any horrible movie based on plot holes, that would be far less interesting and would leave us with nothing to talk about. |
She didnt say do req 7's drop. ILL bold it this time for you guys SHE ASKED DOES MAX REQ 7'S GOLDS STILL DROP
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by manitoba1073
SHE ASKED DOES MAX REQ 7'S GOLDS STILL DROP
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Excuse me for not believing you. I certainly don't see that in her quote. Just because that's -exactly what you asked- doesn't mean that's -exactly what she asked- verbatim. Not a huge stretch of the imagination to realize it's possible.