50% Paragon (Its a build)

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Ascalonian Squire

Shadow Of Sin

Joined Feb 2008

Feb 26, 2008 at 5:41 AM • #1

This build designed for pure pve paragon.
The build:
Anthem Of Envy
Barbed Spear
Spear of Lightning
"Im The Strongest"
"Finish Him"
Aggressive Refrain
Focused Anger
Signet of Return

you can change Focused Anger for "For Great Justice", And Im The Strongest" for Stunning strike.
Spear Mastery-10
Leadership-10
Command-10

About the spear,shield and runes im not sure so I need your help in it.

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

[SNOW] of [YUM]

Joined Feb 2007

Feb 26, 2008 at 6:28 AM • #2

How do you keep up aggressive refrain?

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

None

Joined Feb 2007

Feb 26, 2008 at 6:44 AM • #3

Barbed Spear is a bad skill. Do you really need to kill your elite slot so you can power out bleeding and Envy?

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Joined Mar 2006

Feb 26, 2008 at 7:29 AM • #4

i agree... you should definately consider changing some of those skills out. ^^

kobey

GW Retiree

Sg Unknown [KATE]

Joined Nov 2005

Feb 26, 2008 at 9:18 AM • #5

Just wondering:

Y isn't "There's Nothing to Fear" or "Save Yourselves" on the bar?

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

LaZy

P/W

Joined Sep 2007

Feb 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM • #6

Quote: Originally Posted by kobey

Just wondering:

Y isn't "There's Nothing to Fear" or "Save Yourselves" on the bar? because maybe not everyone wants to be an imbagon?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Joined Sep 2006

Feb 26, 2008 at 8:24 PM • #7

Quote: Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

because maybe not everyone wants to be an imbagon? Then in that case why else is Focused Anger there?
If you're not running an imbagon, gogo Cruel Spear / Defensive Anthem!!

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

[SNOW] of [YUM]

Joined Feb 2007

Feb 27, 2008 at 4:44 AM • #8

Quote: Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

because maybe not everyone wants to be an imbagon? why?

I mean in other classes, alternatives have equal usefulness value, a MM vs. an SS, a Axe verse a sword...

Imbagon > all

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Scars Meadows

Joined Oct 2005

Feb 27, 2008 at 4:50 AM • #9

People like to gimp their builds for the sake of vanity and being original. If it wasn't for that everyone would be a paragon in pve.

SupErioR

Ascalonian Squire

Shadow Of Sin

Joined Feb 2008

Feb 27, 2008 at 5:04 AM • #10

angmar_nite-
Im keeping aggressive refrain up with anthem of envy.
And im using focused anger to use anthem of envy and the atack skills (anthem of envy rocks! +20 damage for each member in one use+Im the strongest for 8 atacks that gives you +20 is deadly!)
and when the enemy reachs below 50% use finish him and keep killing him^^
and btw, i realy think ill change the barbed spear for blazing spear or something.

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

None

Joined Feb 2007

Feb 27, 2008 at 5:06 AM • #11

How do you maintain Aggressive Refrain when you're not fighting?

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Dark Alley [dR]

Joined Sep 2005

Feb 27, 2008 at 5:27 AM • #12

Quote: Originally Posted by blue.rellik

How do you maintain Aggressive Refrain when you're not fighting? normally you would spam [skill]Anthem of Flame[/skill] or some other anthem on recharge while runnign towards your next target.

Since he doesn't seem to have one, short answer, he won't.

Richardt

Jungle Guide

Leader-Legion of Avalon [LoA] Alliance-Recruiting PM for info!

Joined Sep 2007

Feb 27, 2008 at 6:29 PM • #13

Maybe instead of barbed spear, maybe Spear of Redemption?

But you definetely need an energy shout though to maintain AR outside of battle. And switch Focused Anger for Cruel Spear, and maybe Sig. of Return for For Great Justice-let your heroes do the rezzing

Skyros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Joined Mar 2007

Feb 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM • #14

50% Lame (Its the Fact)

Bravo on the build for your high level ingenuity and deep level of consideration to the fact that besides going solo with heroes and henchies, there is no application to using your build with any PvE build/group.

Yea i know Paras have dreat DPS and spike potential but this is PvE... only reason people take Paras are for their ability to keep the party alive with armor buffs, party wide heals/condition removal, and damage reduction.

Mr Pink57

Krytan Explorer

iBench

P/W

Joined Apr 2007

Feb 27, 2008 at 11:03 PM • #15

Quote: Originally Posted by angmar_nite

why?

I mean in other classes, alternatives have equal usefulness value, a MM vs. an SS, a Axe verse a sword...

Imbagon > all The build can sure be overkill in a LOT of areas and definitely a build I never use in NM or most of Tyria HM (Proph not GWEN). I can get by most of the time with just using WY with Cruel Spear and FGJ. Or use SoR with some heavy spear attacks.

pink

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Dark Alley [dR]

Joined Sep 2005

Feb 27, 2008 at 11:36 PM • #16

Quote: Originally Posted by Skyros

Yea i know Paras have dreat DPS and spike potential but this is PvE... only reason people take Paras are for their ability to keep the party alive with armor buffs, party wide heals/condition removal, and damage reduction. Bad players take paragons for this reason. Most players that have any expierence with a paragon take it for its ranged damage thats basically the same as having another warrior as well as the unremovable party buffs.

Skyros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Joined Mar 2007

Feb 27, 2008 at 11:52 PM • #17

uh huh... so taking a paragon for what is built for is for bad players huh?

and im not argueing that it doesnt have great dps... im saying the paragon is more useful as a great party wide buffer and healer. The paragon class would useless without any of its party wide buffs... p spike wouldn't work.. Legoway wouldn't work, no more SoR's... the class is built around and used for its buffs and its a nice and useful bonus that it could also spike nicely. if it didn't have the ranged high dps.. people would still take it in PvE/PvP (although in slightly different roles) because of its highly effective party buffs.

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Dark Alley [dR]

Joined Sep 2005

Feb 28, 2008 at 12:15 AM • #18

[skill]Focused Anger[/skill] [skill]Cruel Spear[/skill] [skill]Stunning Strike[/skill] [skill]Soldier's Fury[/skill]

and these are just the elites...

so a paragon is only built for party healing/buffs?

Paraspike works off the damage a paragon does, not off its partywide healing...

Skyros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Joined Mar 2007

Feb 28, 2008 at 12:25 AM • #19

Focused Anger in tandem with Save yourself

Soldier's fury to build up your adrenaline for Watch yourself,etc

Cruel Spear / Stunning Strike - good elites yes... but would you take a paragon with only high damage ? would you want him to take Theres nothing to fear, or any other party buff?\

Para spike works because the paras buff each other so much its hard to kill them.

honestly although the para pumps out alot of damage... its all single target. and you dont really need to spike anything out in PvE. I'd rather take an ele or another damage caster to full that roll for the AoE's that are so win in PvE. aqnd ONCE AGAIN - i did not say its only built for party buffing but it is the paragon's forte

Mr Pink57

Krytan Explorer

iBench

P/W

Joined Apr 2007

Feb 28, 2008 at 1:46 AM • #20

Soldier's Fury is never a good elite to take since AR is around. Even more so with a WY spam as that'll keep it up for an eternity. A simple build using Cruel Spear can buff a team and cause some fierce damage. There is nothing wrong with bringing the DW to PvE especially on HM foes who have a ton o heath or crazy healing (read Dolyak Riders).

Also lets not forget applying daze on a foe in a melee heavy group equals win, that foe will never get another spell off.

SoL, Cruel Spear, WY, SU, AoF, FGJ, AR, and optional

pink