Get rid of Xunlai Tournament House
Kanyatta
Honestly, I really just don't like the Xunlai Tournament House. Seriously, all it does is reward players that aren't good enough to AT with Reward Points. The way I see it, the name should mean what they are. They're "REWARD POINTS" not "RANDOM POINTS" or something. The XTH just gives them out for mostly people that just random guess who's gonna win the GvG/HB tourney. If they're going to give out points for that, they might as well give players that don't PvP free gold every once in a while. I think that would balance it out.
Billeh
But we all love reaping the benefits of free Zaishen Keys...
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Fangclaw
I know... XTH is pretty much useless. Do people actually use that system anyway?
First time I talked to the Xunlai Tournament NPC (forgot his name) in Lions Arch I was like... ok now what the hell is this crap? Must I really stop playing, go to that website, make an account, then pick a guess see if I get any reward?
Seemed like a waste of time then, and I still feel that way...
/signed
but even then I suppose some people actually have fun doing this... too bad for them. No offense.
First time I talked to the Xunlai Tournament NPC (forgot his name) in Lions Arch I was like... ok now what the hell is this crap? Must I really stop playing, go to that website, make an account, then pick a guess see if I get any reward?
Seemed like a waste of time then, and I still feel that way...
/signed
but even then I suppose some people actually have fun doing this... too bad for them. No offense.
Arkantos
Does it really matter if people guess and get ~50 reward points? I really don't see how it's affecting anything.
Moral55
It keeps the spectator aspect of it, and I like it.
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Horus Moonlight
Yea cause it just gives noobs who aren't worthy reward points! [/end sarcasm]
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Aera
/notsigned
blabla...nuttin' wrong with a step closer to my fow for my pvp char
blabla...nuttin' wrong with a step closer to my fow for my pvp char
HawkofStorms
/signed
Its a stupid system as it is. It should either be fully integrated into the game or not exist at all.
Its a stupid system as it is. It should either be fully integrated into the game or not exist at all.
Winstar
/not signed
While it generates awareness of the monthly champs, I'm not sure it actually generates interest in GvG or HB. My guess is that most people simply make picks without thinking about it much and hope to cash in once the rp's are available without ever following the event or watching any matches. Those who actually open up obs and watch are probably the people who are already hooked in.
Regardless, rps are already pretty meaningless aside from making keys cheaper and more available which in turn makes creme bruele and firewater more readily available. With rp weapons and armor I don't really care if causual pvpers unlock a few pvp skins so they can look mildly better in RA.
Its nice to have RP's but to think that everyone plays for the rps and get pissed when others get the for guessing is silly. RP's are just a mild benfit for doing something you enjoy independantly.
While it generates awareness of the monthly champs, I'm not sure it actually generates interest in GvG or HB. My guess is that most people simply make picks without thinking about it much and hope to cash in once the rp's are available without ever following the event or watching any matches. Those who actually open up obs and watch are probably the people who are already hooked in.
Regardless, rps are already pretty meaningless aside from making keys cheaper and more available which in turn makes creme bruele and firewater more readily available. With rp weapons and armor I don't really care if causual pvpers unlock a few pvp skins so they can look mildly better in RA.
Its nice to have RP's but to think that everyone plays for the rps and get pissed when others get the for guessing is silly. RP's are just a mild benfit for doing something you enjoy independantly.
Selket
I never even bother with it.
But I mean srs, why would you want to make it go away. Free things are free.
But I mean srs, why would you want to make it go away. Free things are free.
Eldin
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This sounds like a rant from some "experienced" PvPer who thinks us PvE-ers and "inexperienced" PvPers do not deserve tournament points. You guys can make predictions too, so it's fair for everyone. The system is fine the way it is currently, it sounds like the only reason you want to get rid of this is so only tournament players can get points. That's being called greedy. Greediness is bad. Therefore you are bad. Case closed.
Besides, why be greedy and hog the Zaishen Keys to yourselves? :P
This sounds like a rant from some "experienced" PvPer who thinks us PvE-ers and "inexperienced" PvPers do not deserve tournament points. You guys can make predictions too, so it's fair for everyone. The system is fine the way it is currently, it sounds like the only reason you want to get rid of this is so only tournament players can get points. That's being called greedy. Greediness is bad. Therefore you are bad. Case closed.
Besides, why be greedy and hog the Zaishen Keys to yourselves? :P
Div
But I like my free keys! 
Lord Darksoul
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not broken whatsoever, fair to everyone, fun to bet with friends on who'll win.
not broken whatsoever, fair to everyone, fun to bet with friends on who'll win.
Albert Algorn
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But I like my free keys!
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MisterB
I can't imagine that removing a new feature that gives free rewards without harming anyone would endear ANet in the hearts of players. Don't PvP players who actually participate in the ATs have a better chance of reaping more rewards from the XTH? Also, ANet already gives free chests every month to people who don't PvP(and those who do both). The Elonian chests.
Phoenix Tears
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don#t bash the casual gamers.. they should have also a way to get somehow on those points without thos stupid retarded hardcore elitism everywhere in the game
don#t bash the casual gamers.. they should have also a way to get somehow on those points without thos stupid retarded hardcore elitism everywhere in the game
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Horus Moonlight
Yea cause it just gives noobs who aren't worthy reward points! [/end sarcasm]
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Operative 14
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta
The point I'm trying to make is, if they're called "Reward Points" shouldn't they be a "reward"? Not a "gift"?
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Kerwyn Nasilan
/notsigned
And crap forgot to predict this month : (, no free Z-Keys for me.
And crap forgot to predict this month : (, no free Z-Keys for me.
Div
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
If you know enough about the PvP tournaments to make an accurate prediction about who's going to win, I'd say you deserve a 'reward.'
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ajc2123
BS, People will just farm more money to buy Z keys from players instead. Besides, My votes are serious, I look at the different teams and try to decide which is better. Just beacuse of all my friends are in a laid back non pvp guild, and I dont wanna leave because all the pvp ones are full of rude metas, doesn't mean they should take my serious prediction rewards away.
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Gli
/unsigned
I kinda got used to getting my (on average) 25 free Zaishen keys per month.
I kinda got used to getting my (on average) 25 free Zaishen keys per month.
Orange Milk
LMAO XTH rules, I got a whole 1 point this month that = 25 RP's yeah I'm bad at predicting it seems. Thanks for not entering Ekelon, lol. Though 7 of my GvG picks made the top 16, so i wasn't that bad.
25 Rps = 5 Z keys = 4 creme brulee and a lock pick = who cares
Some people are interested in GvG but not in "elite" GvG guilds, the watch obs they follow scores and ranks, why not let them gamble a bit.
Anyway, I can get 25 RPs easy a month just by entering 1 HB daily a day and failing so whats the difference.
25 Rps = 5 Z keys = 4 creme brulee and a lock pick = who cares
Some people are interested in GvG but not in "elite" GvG guilds, the watch obs they follow scores and ranks, why not let them gamble a bit.
Anyway, I can get 25 RPs easy a month just by entering 1 HB daily a day and failing so whats the difference.
Lykan
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
But I like my free keys!
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MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta
all it does is reward players that aren't good enough to AT with Reward Points.
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There's nothing to be against of.
A PvP player can get much more points AND use the Xunlai house. A player that do not enter the Tournaments can only get points in the Xunlai House.
Everyone wins.
English Warrior
/notsigned i think its good that guild wars can get lower ranked players involved with the top ranked players someway.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Nope, my random guesses turned out much better than my predictions based on how good these guilds are in my opinion.
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The House doesn't reward you because you're "good" at picking the teams, because there's really no way to win. I remember one month, some guild ended up losing the championship because they had an error while in the other teams base, and ended up losing the match because of that.
Maybe make an extra category of points? "Guess Points" which can be redeemed for a huge "?" emote.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
You said it. Even if I were one of those that usually add that '/notsigned' stuff to their posts, it won't be neccesary here.
There's nothing to be against of. A PvP player can get much more points AND use the Xunlai house. A player that do not enter the Tournaments can only get points in the Xunlai House. Everyone wins. |
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Inversely, if it is removed, it would not discriminate against any kind of player. It would affect everybody equally, so in the long term it would fine to remoe it.
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greenreaper3
/signed to the part where he said pve ppl get free gold 
Ctb
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I never used XTH, but now I'm going to give it a try
I never used XTH, but now I'm going to give it a try
Sjeng
/not signed
Z.Keys are a good income for me. And I like making predictions, even though I don't pvp myself. It's fun. I say keep it, Anet went through a lot of trouble creating it, and lots of people like it, so why should they ever even consider chucking it overboard?
Z.Keys are a good income for me. And I like making predictions, even though I don't pvp myself. It's fun. I say keep it, Anet went through a lot of trouble creating it, and lots of people like it, so why should they ever even consider chucking it overboard?
Sjeng
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Z.Keys are a good income for me. And I like making predictions, even though I don't pvp myself. It's fun. I say keep it, Anet went through a lot of trouble creating it, and lots of people like it, so why should they ever even consider chucking it overboard?
Z.Keys are a good income for me. And I like making predictions, even though I don't pvp myself. It's fun. I say keep it, Anet went through a lot of trouble creating it, and lots of people like it, so why should they ever even consider chucking it overboard?
Onyx Ftw
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Just because you suck at predicting the winners doesn't mean the rest should lose this chance.
and btw, you only get rewarded by this method once a month. You can AT and get many times the amount you get via XTH, so why bother QQing?
Just because you suck at predicting the winners doesn't mean the rest should lose this chance.
and btw, you only get rewarded by this method once a month. You can AT and get many times the amount you get via XTH, so why bother QQing?
Solas
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Honestly, I really just don't like the Xunlai Tournament House. Seriously, all it does is reward players that aren't good enough to AT with Reward Points. The way I see it, the name should mean what they are. They're "REWARD POINTS" not "RANDOM POINTS" or something. The XTH just gives them out for mostly people that just random guess who's gonna win the GvG/HB tourney. If they're going to give out points for that, they might as well give players that don't PvP free gold every once in a while. I think that would balance it out.
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2) it gets people interested to some degree.
3) if your good enough then you should be making reward points anyway so the XTH would give you extra, and since your so good then you can make accurate predictions
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ShoGunTheOne
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it would be nice to get ±50 reward points every month
and that's the only time i get reward points
it would be nice to get ±50 reward points every month
and that's the only time i get reward points
NamelessBeauty
Urg, why do you get offend with XTH? They are part of the game that Anet add there! It does not affect much at all and I don't really see why it bothered you!
Chronos the Defiler
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Originally Posted by Fangclaw
I know... XTH is pretty much useless. Do people actually use that system anyway?
First time I talked to the Xunlai Tournament NPC (forgot his name) in Lions Arch I was like... ok now what the hell is this crap? Must I really stop playing, go to that website, make an account, then pick a guess see if I get any reward? Seemed like a waste of time then, and I still feel that way... /signed but even then I suppose some people actually have fun doing this... too bad for them. No offense. |
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Originally Posted by greenreaper3
/signed to the part where he said pve ppl get free gold
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Sir Pandra Pierva
but i would to stand around in town and get 15k each month<_<
BogusDude
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I know alot of people who use this system for the free loot, and for no reason other than the free loot. Personally i think its a game and you should be made to go out and earn your money. PvP what this has something to do with pvp? not to the vast majority who participate in it it doesn't, its free loot and little more, oh and maybe a free title.
But obviously they won't get rid of it because people are buying multiple accounts so that they can get more free loot for doing nothing and ncsoft make money out of it. Clever money making scheme but absolutely nothing to do with playing the game.
And don't tell me it doesn't hurt me so why complain when i have to continuously sort through my thousands of builds everytime they decide to nerf a few skills so that i can't "earn" so much money so fast while they're giving it away and messing up the economy
I know alot of people who use this system for the free loot, and for no reason other than the free loot. Personally i think its a game and you should be made to go out and earn your money. PvP what this has something to do with pvp? not to the vast majority who participate in it it doesn't, its free loot and little more, oh and maybe a free title.
But obviously they won't get rid of it because people are buying multiple accounts so that they can get more free loot for doing nothing and ncsoft make money out of it. Clever money making scheme but absolutely nothing to do with playing the game.
And don't tell me it doesn't hurt me so why complain when i have to continuously sort through my thousands of builds everytime they decide to nerf a few skills so that i can't "earn" so much money so fast while they're giving it away and messing up the economy