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jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

02 Mar 2008 at 17:51 - 1

The ultimate mini pet... For the cost of 250e from a special "Mini Pet Trader" that would be added in, s/he would give you an item called "Molding Clay". This would allow you to clone one's self when you use it.

some brief specifics:

if you are not in a town, the mini would not have any weapons equipted when you use it
if you are in an explorable area, whatever weapons you have equipted is what the mini will have from then on out
if your cape is off, the cape will not clone with the mini
if you cape is on, then the clone WILL have a cape displayed
the armor you are wearing at the time of usage is the armor is will have displayed on the mini from then on out
the miniature pet would not be customised to the original user upon using "Molding Clay"
the miniature pet is is sellable/tradeable among players
the miniature pet will be green lettered
"Molding Clay" would be a drop added into the game, with a drop rate of ~.005% of dropping from any and all types of creatures in all expansions. the drop rate would be this low to keep the value concurent to the price of what it would cost to buy from from the trader listed above (250e)
"Molding Clay" would be a gold item

More options will be available in due time when I can think of them/when suggestions arise.

This is something that has been on my mind ever since the first release of original mini pets. Any and all suggestions/ideas are welcome, but flaming/fighting/provoking of any sort on this thread will NOT be tolerated. Thank you.

~LeNa~

Kiasyd117

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Chantilly, VA

Summit Soldiers [SS]

N/Rt

02 Mar 2008 at 17:55 - 2

Well the ooze minipet that becomes /whatever is not a terribad idea but the minipet tader concept is ftl.

personally i don't want to see anything more in the game that encourages ecto grinding, they're 4.9K already let's not try for less.

Bo Fairfield

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Mu Tants [MU]

Me/

02 Mar 2008 at 18:02 - 3

You propose a 1/20000 drop rate. How many monsters does the average player kill a day? How many players are there? It would have to be way lower than1/20000, because I'm sure that I've killed 20,000 at least in the last month. If every player could get one just by playnig, it would not be worth 250e

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

02 Mar 2008 at 18:03 - 4

While an interesting idea /notsigned
"My e-peen is bigger then your e-peen, see, look at my uber sweet 250 ecto mini" said as the R/N with level 8 bone horrors overaggros a mob.

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

02 Mar 2008 at 18:08 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Fairfield

You propose a 1/20000 drop rate. How many monsters does the average player kill a day? How many players are there? It would have to be way lower than1/20000, because I'm sure that I've killed 20,000 at least in the last month. If every player could get one just by playnig, it would not be worth 250e

mmkay, good point. a fix would be a further increase of how little the drop rate would be. perhaps...*thinks* .000005 would be appropriate?

Fangclaw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Maguuma Jungle / Tarnished Coast

R/

02 Mar 2008 at 18:13 - 6

/not signed

Though it seems like a good idea, I dont like the way its going.

Just another thing to worn the economy down... And it would encourage the pro braggers to brag even more, make grinding ectos GW national sport, etc.

Enough said.

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

02 Mar 2008 at 18:14 - 7

I can see it now......

"WTS Gaile Gray mini". 100,000 braces

Kiasyd117

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Chantilly, VA

Summit Soldiers [SS]

N/Rt

02 Mar 2008 at 18:22 - 8

sorry about the bump but Fangclaw is on the money (pardon the pun).

We had the mini polar bear for at most 48hrs, a couple trillionaires got one then they shut it down, seems to be the way things go as of late, whether by design or accident the trillionaires and armbrace exploiters get the vast majority of the super leet and we get stuck with below max purple bone spiral rods, req11

f a n i t a

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

Knights Of Deaths Twilight [KODT]

W/

02 Mar 2008 at 18:49 - 9

Another thing wrong with the mini pet trader as well with the general idea is that every 'ultimate mini pet' or whatever the official name would be would look different, or at least for the most part. I guess some would look the same but that would only be by chance, unless two people wanted twins, you get my drift though. So the price of them will ALWAYS be different. I mean, why pay 250e for a mini that looks like someone straight off noob island, if you can pay the same price for one that looks like Jesus on a lamp stand, with its fow armor died black, gold trimmed cape, and tormented weapons and what not. So some crappy noob islanders that by chance got the drop, then made it look like them would be worth but 10k... whilst others would be worth millions. I just can't see this not destroying the economy more than it already is. Which is truly the last thing I need, seeing as how before EOTN came out, I made all my money power trading, something that can;t really be done anymore.

majikmajikmajik

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

SATown~Tx

Guild Hopper!

R/

02 Mar 2008 at 19:10 - 10

/notsigned, quit trying to add more things to gw1 it sux enough and it just slows the development of gw2

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

02 Mar 2008 at 19:26 - 11

Miniatures are not pets. They are magical toys.

Instead a clay icon, I would make it look like a paper Shikigami or one of those wood dummies used to practice drawing.

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

02 Mar 2008 at 19:29 - 12

/notsigned

we don't need more mini pets and like ismau said there will be mini pets of some players that will be worth ridiculous amounts of money.

Syco Masato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

New Jersey

D/

02 Mar 2008 at 19:52 - 13

I will call him... Mini-Me.
/notsigned

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

02 Mar 2008 at 20:00 - 14

nice idea to raise the ecto price again

U Wanna Die

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/Mo

02 Mar 2008 at 20:28 - 15

party search is your friend
so many clone mini pet threads
and idea is stupid because u contradict yourself at least twice

/notsigned

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

02 Mar 2008 at 20:47 - 16

What is 250e? Ectos? I have never possessed more than 5 ectos at once, mind you. ;(

However it would raise ecto prices again!

I have mixed feelings on it, the idea of you only being able to "mold" yourself once, and whatever armor/cape you have on you at the time is what he will have forever, would be kind of odd. Maybe (though this would add to the complications) you could pay the NPC an additional X ectos and they can reset the clay somehow.

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

02 Mar 2008 at 20:55 - 17

Ecto prices might rise for a month or 2 or however long it takes for people to realise it's just a mini pet then it'll go back to normal just like chaos gloves.

Still an idea not worth implementing in the game.

/notsigned

HuntMaster Avatar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Around

Pillar's of Earth [ROCK]

W/

02 Mar 2008 at 20:58 - 18

no more ecto requiring items please. we have enough.

/notsigned.

wraithe

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

N/Me

02 Mar 2008 at 21:31 - 19

/signed for clone mini

/not signed for requirement

must say this is one of the better and more thought out "Mini Me" miniatures threads out there..but still been said many many times before.

wraithe

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

03 Mar 2008 at 05:48 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by U Wanna Die

party search is your friend
so many clone mini pet threads
and idea is stupid because u contradict yourself at least twice

/notsigned

and where exactly to i "contradict" myself?

Yoshikuni Mahsu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

03 Mar 2008 at 07:13 - 21

/notsigned for we dont need more minipets, hell we dont need any minipets at all.

/notsigned because it would destroy the economy

and /notsigned because its totally impossible, implausible, expensive and completely not worth the time and money it would require from Anet to implement.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

03 Mar 2008 at 19:58 - 22

/not signed

great lets add more grind to the game that wasn't really supposed to be a grind type game

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

03 Mar 2008 at 21:06 - 23

I think it might be a better idea for the molding clay to be used like signet of capture, where after you kill a boss, you activate the clay and it creates a mini. Although 250e might be a bit ridiculous, regardless

/signed

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

03 Mar 2008 at 21:34 - 24

/signed, except for your idea of it being a low and random drop from any creature in the expansion. Rather, I would like to see a number of different items be put together from each region of the expansion or campaigns, sorta like the Black Moa was put together. That would be more of an exciting quest opportunity for us who don't have 250 ectos to blow.

Drelias Melaku

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Avatar by unsolvedenigma.deviantart

Denizens of the Underdark [Nite]

N/Me

03 Mar 2008 at 22:35 - 25

Dante, I don't like your idea... People would recreate the Kanaxai mini and such, thus destroying the economy.

I would /sign for Shayne Hawke's idea, but not for the original poster's.

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

W/

03 Mar 2008 at 22:49 - 26

I love sardelac sanitarium....people just come here, look if there are more /signed or /not signed and join the stream. We have those crappy chaos gloves, why not molding clay now.

Only one bad thing in your suggestions: 0.05% drop rate is very high if you consider the fact that it would drop from any creatures (aka low level mobs); the farm would be easy and wouldn't cover the trading price. Drop rate should be more like 0.0001% :P

Oh and lol at Yoshikuni....it would destroy the economy...like if it's not already destroyed ;D

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

04 Mar 2008 at 06:38 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrono Re delle Ere

I love sardelac sanitarium....people just come here, look if there are more /signed or /not signed and join the stream.[/quote
agreed. it's sad, no?

Only one bad thing in your suggestions: 0.05% drop rate is very high if you consider the fact that it would drop from any creatures (aka low level mobs); the farm would be easy and wouldn't cover the trading price. Drop rate should be more like 0.0001% :P

i changed the drop rate-- it was posted on the first page shortly after some else mentioned this. the new drop rate would be ~.00005% or so.

anyways, to everyone else: this is just an idea, NOT something i wish to be added in-game. it's just for fun and kicks; nothing more.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

04 Mar 2008 at 07:21 - 28

No. The existence of a Zahr Dalsk minipet would ruin the economy and shatter balance as people bid insane amounts of armbraces to get a miniature version of arrogance personified; me.

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

04 Mar 2008 at 07:47 - 29

/notsigned

way to take a good idea and butcher it.

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

04 Mar 2008 at 10:41 - 30

Why does it have a weapon, and your cape? It's clay.... lol?

Lol @ trader 250 ecto tbh.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

04 Mar 2008 at 22:14 - 31

250 ectos is completely ridiculous, more minis isn't something we need especially ones that require such a huge amount of ecto. Btw Jonnie I can almost bet my life that you have stacks and stacks of ecto.

SuTiH

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

05 Mar 2008 at 21:50 - 32

/signed

original.. I simply like it.

I Farm In Town

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Wondering Boys

E/Me

06 Mar 2008 at 03:21 - 33

/signed(if the devs are just sitting around looking for something to do)

Sure minis are useless but no more so than elite armor or rare weapons. Why shouldn't we all be running around wearing Droks and swinging longswords? It would be boring as hell thats why. Variety is good, and minipets are a part of that. As for the price being too high.. please. 250e is far from unattainable for someone who sets it as a goal(I don't mean like in a week or anything) and actually knows how to make the cash. If you don't want to work for something that expensive, or can't figure out how make the cash, then you probably don't deserve something worth 250e. Go buy a fungal wallow. Nobody forces anyone to go farm ecto. As for the economy there are only a handful of items worth big money anymore. Go stand in LA for a while. Its already screwed. Minipets did not cause that.

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

06 Mar 2008 at 03:50 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

/signed, except for your idea of it being a low and random drop from any creature in the expansion. Rather, I would like to see a number of different items be put together from each region of the expansion or campaigns, sorta like the Black Moa was put together. That would be more of an exciting quest opportunity for us who don't have 250 ectos to blow.

/signed to this idea. I loved having to quest for the moa, even though it took me 5 hours to get the stupid skree wings <_<

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

06 Mar 2008 at 03:59 - 35

I don't think charging ecto is going to work. What other vendor requires ecto to buy something? You'd have to make it a 0.0000000001& drop rate or something, because a vendor just isn't going to cut it for this.

I like the general idea, just not the implementation.

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

06 Mar 2008 at 07:13 - 36

/signed,
lovely start for an idea, the best take so far on a mini yourself pet, but needs (economic) improvements.

I think it being a global drop with a not so low droprate wouldn't make it any elite. Yes, 0.005% is not really rare, dozens of them would drop every day, it wouldn't be worth more than 40ectos after a few weeks. Compare that to for example mini Ghostly Hero which drops maybe 1-2 per week or less. And what would be the best way to get it? Buying from clueless newbs in low level cities!

A possible solution to make such an 'elite' drop a worldwide one would be making it drop in Hard Mode only. Complete fresh newbies wouldn't randomly get ones this way. But there's one more issue - the mass solo farming. If it was a rare worldwide HM only drop, the vast majority of them would be found by the hardcore Raptor/Snowmen/Undead HM farmers, as they kill obscenely huge numbers of mobs per 1 person per hour. So maybe just make it a rare HM boss and chest drop only (different rates obv)? That also gives advantage to extreme solofarmers, just smaller.

I'd say make it affected by lootscaling to balance it out at least a little, and let it drop from any HM mobs at a 0.001% rate, and 0.005% rate for bosses and locked chests.

Now there's the second alternative method of obtaining it, working as a heavy sink for ectos, guaranteeing obtaining one at will at the right price. But that's really awkward to make an item available in both ways, if it drops and becomes more and more common, it's value decreases and the crafter price may be way higher than market price. Except when it's designed to be the main way of obtaining one, with the random drops being so extremelly rare

As for the cost of crafting, I think it should be high, include at least 100ectos (250 wasn't really that high, compare to market prices of the rare minis already in game) and it could possibly include less ectos plus some various others currently underused ingredients that could really use an additional sink, like Diamonds, Monstrous Eyes, or Clay Bricks

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

06 Mar 2008 at 08:33 - 37

its a cool idea, but the main problem, like people have stated, is it would make it so there would be more grind. it should be equal when it comes to how you get it in pvp and pve.... or in pvp it will use what rank you are everyonce in awile and you only get it after rank 5 or something.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

06 Mar 2008 at 09:55 - 38

Think how rich some of the top gvg'ers could get by selling mini's of themselves

it also encourages grind

so /notsigned

bowz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Born In Ascalon FTW

Guild ancestors reunited [ギルド] Officer FTW

R/

06 Mar 2008 at 16:58 - 39

Great item (i always thought of a net were u would catch any kind of monster u want and make it a mini = instint kill) but seriosly 250E!!!!! thats a lil to much how about 100k

/notsigned

[email protected]

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Order Of The Ghost Dragons [mist]

E/

06 Mar 2008 at 17:33 - 40

only if it copied your skill bar and used the skills in explorable areas, doing 5% of the normal damage and any degen skills maxed at -1 and could only knockdown other mini pets...