surfpin please!

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umm just a quick question..
are they ever gonna let us use surfpin to buy the bonus mission pack?
i seriously dont wanna use a credit card because its not safe anymore.
i hear that you can already use surfpin to make some purchases in the gw store so why not the bmp?
im sure this will also be extremely profitable for Anet since many users dont have credit cards(kinda the reason most of us bought gw)

edit: i also have evidence that nc-soft has closed a deal with surfpin.....so this leads me wondering why we still cant use surfpin to buy the bonus mission pack!!

http://surfpin.com/clients.aspx

im almost certain that anyone that can do anything about this is not going to read this thread =(



adding surfpin will be a whole lot easier than shipping to stores and if they add surfpin to the entire online store im sure anets revenue will increase by more than over 51%
so right now i dont see a reason why they dont let us use surfpin and i really want the bonus mission pack but it is not within my reach until i can paybyphone.

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But I'm not sure on if they will do it.

I think you can use PayPal, and Mobile Phones...
Oh yeah -- there's always pre-payed cash cards.

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well i just think the easiest,quickest,and safest way to pay is surfpin,

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Why is it the quickest etc? It's obviously not because it's taking you longer to use it than it would to just use your card >.>

Also, why isn't it safe? It's Arena Net, a huge multi-million company, if they do you over, sue for a LOT of money. I'm no legal expert, but i'm pretty sure you'd make your money back and a LOT more.

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True, and if it's not NCSoft, you woulda been exploited for your pass ect even with SurfPin, PayPal, WHATEVER you use.

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phones are being tested somewhere in Europe, I don't know about paypal, but they should have more ways of paying.

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theres also alot of people who dont have credit cards which is why they bought gw.
so why do we have to use them now?

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ever heard of a debit card? and you can get prepaid credit cards too.

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i rather not go through all that and instead just use surfpin which takes only minutes.
the biggest reason why i got into gw was because i thought i would never have to use a credit card!

edit: plus its really not safe anymore you can get your identity stolen i dont think that will happen with surfpin.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Berek
Why is it the quickest etc? It's obviously not because it's taking you longer to use it than it would to just use your card >.>

Also, why isn't it safe? It's Arena Net, a huge multi-million company, if they do you over, sue for a LOT of money. I'm no legal expert, but i'm pretty sure you'd make your money back and a LOT more.
umm i think if anet was a huge multi-million dollar corporation we would probably be having official voice-chat and official boards or something.

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umm i think if anet was a huge multi-million dollar corporation we would probably be having official voice-chat and official boards or something.
A-net is not a huge multi-million dollar corporation, but NC-Soft (owner of A-Net and the one you deal with when you use the online game store) is a huge multi-million dollar corporation.

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I'm STILL waiting for ANet to get their Ingame Store working with ALL gift cards, because I'm too young to prance over to my bank account and present my social security number to get privileges to call up this company and present my phone number and billing information to get approval for making an account on their site just to put ten bucks on a lousy Visa Gift Card.

Instead I use the pre-paid-amount American Express ones, which, sadly, do not work.

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ehh not trying to be a noob? whats surfpin?

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ehh not trying to be a noob? whats surfpin?
its an alternative online payment method in which you use your landline phone to make the transaction and all online bills are sent straight to your telephone bill.
surfpin.com

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I only saw Visa, Mastercard, Discover and American Express in the store via the game. Is there a link to the store where you can use other methods?

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I only saw Visa, Mastercard, Discover and American Express in the store via the game. Is there a link to the store where you can use other methods?
no we can only use credit card and paypal to buy from the online store and i dont have access to neither thats why im making a simple request to make surfpin available.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Berek
Arena Net, a huge multi-million company, isn' if they do you over, sue for a LOT of money. I'm no legal expert, but i'm pretty sure you'd make your money back and a LOT more.
People get their money stolen while on Ebay, Ebay never gets sued for it, I'd assume there's some disclaimer everywhere about "If you're money gets stolen, it's not our fault" in the EULA or TOS or something.

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I have another question concerning the online store:

Do they allow the use of Paypal? Somehow alternate payment methods do make sense to me even though they cost a little more.

Edit:

Sorry I forgot that you can use PayPal to get stuff...though I do think it might be a good idea to allow a variety of payment methods such as other alternates and maybe even mail orders (ie. Send your account name and password and the item you wish to purchase enclosed with the proper amount of money.

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no we can only use credit card and paypal to buy from the online store and i dont have access to neither thats why im making a simple request to make surfpin available.
Wrong, You can use DEBIT CARDS aswell.

Why are you making that request here, GWG have no influence on the payment metod in the Store.


Here is some Threads about Payment Metod, see if you get your anwser in them.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10253306
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10249721
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10185281
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10013760

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Originally Posted by Stockholm
Wrong, You can use DEBIT CARDS aswell.

Why are you making that request here, GWG have no influence on the payment metod in the Store.


Here is some Threads about Payment Metod, see if you get your anwser in them.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10253306
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10249721
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10185281
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10013760
no this does not answer my question, debit cards or anything shaped like a rectangle is something i cannot use to make online purchases until the near-future.
so surfpin is the best alternative.
and also guru can have an influence on anything as long as anet reads the threads.

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Originally Posted by warcrap
no this does not answer my question, debit cards or anything shaped like a rectangle is something i cannot use to make online purchases until the near-future.
so surfpin is the best alternative.
and also guru can have an influence on anything as long as anet reads the threads.
In this case you have to get NC-Softs attention they handle the online store NOT A-NET.

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and how exactly can i get anything into ncsoft?

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and how exactly can i get anything into ncsoft?
http://support.guildwars.com/

Takes you to NC-Softs support

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Originally Posted by Stockholm
In this case you have to get NC-Softs attention they handle the online store NOT A-NET.
nc-soft is already intertwined with surfpin so why cant anet use it?

http://surfpin.com/clients.aspx

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TBH, I have had a few credit card fraud things hit me (lucky I was paying attention and didn't lose out on it). Not to implicate NCSoft, but that was the only common connection that I was able to find in the cards that got hit.

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Quote:
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nc-soft is already intertwined with surfpin so why cant anet use it?

http://surfpin.com/clients.aspx
Use the PlayNC store then, problem solved

https://secure.plaync.com/cgi-bin/Store.pl?dnv=1458704770&action=toggleCategory&mode =open&category=4#group4

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Quote:
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TBH, I have had a few credit card fraud things hit me (lucky I was paying attention and didn't lose out on it). Not to implicate NCSoft, but that was the only common connection that I was able to find in the cards that got hit.
You allways have to pay attention to your CC statments, even if you only use it in regular stores

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ok i visited the plaync store only to find out surfpin is unavaliable for the bonus mission pack.

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ok i visited the plaync store only to find out surfpin is unavaliable for the bonus mission pack.
Then surfpin properbly charges to much for the sevice for it to be worth it for NC-soft, so you will be out of luck with A-Net also .

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Then surfpin properbly charges to much for the sevice for it to be worth it for NC-soft, so you will be out of luck with A-Net also .
not really just about 50-75 cents per dollar.
so we would probably pay an extra 5 dollars for the bmp.

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Originally Posted by warcrap
not really just about 50-75 cents per dollar.
so we would probably pay an extra 5 dollars for the bmp.
They do charge NC-Soft aswell, thats why many companys and stores don't do credit card transactions under $10, and NC-soft might think that the fee Surfpin is charging is to high on an item for $9.95


LOL 50-75 cents /$, thats 50-75% thats a ripe off, here we call it SCAMMING

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They do charge NC-Soft aswell, thats why many companys and stores don't do credit card transactions under $10, and NC-soft might think that the fee Surfpin is charging is to high on an item for $9.95


LOL 50-75 cents /$, thats 50-75% thats a ripe off, here we call it SCAMMING
your that poor that you wouldn't be able to pay the extra charges for surfpin?
it wont be that much 10+5=15(duh)

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your that poor that you wouldn't be able to pay the extra charges for surfpin?
it wont be that much 10+5=15(duh)
Don't need Surfpin, I have my plastic and can use the store any time. Your the one who must be poor since you cant even afford a Pre-Paid CC.

And why pay $15 when you can buy it in the store for $9.95 ?????????

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Don't need Surfpin, I have my plastic and can use the store any time. Your the one who must be poor since you cant even afford a Pre-Paid CC.

And why pay $15 when you can buy it in the store for $9.95 ?????????
im not poor im just not above the legal age limit to sign up for a cc.
if the bmp was sold in real life stores im sure anet would make tons.

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im not poor im just not above the legal age limit to sign up for a cc.
if the bmp was sold in real life stores im sure anet would make tons.
You can get a PRE-PAID Debit/Credit Card at any age in the majority of EU (I know, used to live there).


LOL, They would have to sell it to the stores for less than $5 (stores need to make profit aswell) plus pay for disk and paket and distrubution, it's not free. Not much left after that.
They don't lose many sales by selling it online, people who really wants the BMP find ways to get it from the online store.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
You can get a PRE-PAID Debit/Credit Card at any age in the majority of EU (I know, used to live there).


LOL, They would have to sell it to the stores for less than $5 (stores need to make profit aswell) plus pay for disk and paket and distrubution, it's not free. Not much left after that.
They don't lose many sales by selling it online, people who really wants the BMP find ways to get it from the online store.
well I've tried every possible way i even tried getting a pre-paid debit card were i live but i couldn't they said i had to be 18 or older or have a parent(they wont let me)
adding surfpin will be a whole lot easier than shipping to stores and if they add surfpin to the entire online store im sure anets revenue will increase by more than over 71% (study made on online games who use surfpin).
so right now i dont see a reason why they dont let us use surfpin and i really want the bonus mission pack but it is not within my reach until i can paybyphone.

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well I've tried every possible way i even tried getting a pre-paid debit card were i live but i couldn't they said i had to be 18 or older or have a parent(they wont let me)
adding surfpin will be a whole lot easier than shipping to stores and if they add surfpin to the entire online store im sure anets revenue will increase by more than over 71% (study made on online games who use surfpin).
so right now i dont see a reason why they dont let us use surfpin and i really want the bonus mission pack but it is not within my reach until i can paybyphone.
So your saying they would have sold over 8.5 mil game boxes insted of 5 mil if they had Surfpin? Don't you think the financial department at NC-Soft would know about things like this?
What looks simple to you might not be that simple in real life when you have to look at the bottom line in economics. (Income-cost=profit)

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So your saying they would have sold over 8.5 mil game boxes insted of 5 mil if they had Surfpin? Don't you think the financial department at NC-Soft would know about things like this?
What looks simple to you might not be that simple in real life when you have to look at the bottom line in economics. (Income-cost=profit)
not nc-soft that survey was made on some other f2p games that use surfpin.

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So that survey have no bearing on GW and their use/not use of surfpin.

What I can gather from your posts, your parents don't approve of your "need" to buy the BMP pack, so you want to charge it to the phone bill and then take the "punishment" later when the bill arrives? Am I correct?

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So that survey have no bearing on GW and their use/not use of surfpin.

What I can gather from your posts, your parents don't approve of your "need" to buy the BMP pack, so you want to charge it to the phone bill and then take the "punishment" later when the bill arrives? Am I correct?
no i use the paybyphone and give them the money in person.