Why are so many hammers so damned small?

Coolquest

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Am I the only one who noticed how incredibly TINY over half the hammers in ALL the GW campaigns look when in the hands of a male warrior? There are very few cool hammer skins that are big enough to look good when you're holding em (Stone summit, desolation). I think A-Net seriously needs to give the hammers a size-boost.

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get a female war then

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
get a female war then
Lets be honest here, have you EVER seen a real player female with a hammer? I've never in my 200 hours of GW play seen a female warr using a hammer, Devona is the only female I've seen use a hammer...

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Arenanet needs to buff hammer's attack speed, give it some AoE like Scythes or SOMETHING to make them worthwhile, first. The last thing that is important with hammers right now is how they look. They just plain suck.

And I have not seen any female hammer warriors in PvE, but that is most likely because I am not stupid enough to let a warrior with a hammer in my party.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coolquest
Am I the only one who noticed how incredibly TINY over half the hammers in ALL the GW campaigns look when in the hands of a male warrior? There are very few cool hammer skins that are big enough to look good when you're holding em (Stone summit, desolation). I think A-Net seriously needs to give the hammers a size-boost.
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Originally Posted by Lord Xivor
Arenanet needs to buff hammer's attack speed, give it some AoE like Scythes or SOMETHING to make them worthwhile, first. The last thing that is important with hammers right now is how they look. They just plain suck.

And I have not seen any female hammer warriors in PvE, but that is most likely because I am not stupid enough to let a warrior with a hammer in my party.

This thread is full of absolutely clueless newbs.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Xivor
Arenanet needs to buff hammer's attack speed, give it some AoE like Scythes or SOMETHING to make them worthwhile, first. The last thing that is important with hammers right now is how they look. They just plain suck.

And I have not seen any female hammer warriors in PvE, but that is most likely because I am not stupid enough to let a warrior with a hammer in my party.
Please, unless you actually KNOW what you're talking about don't talk. Hammers are kick ass and I could beat you using one any time.

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This thread is full of absolutely clueless newbs.
Please explain :P

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Hammers are amazing. <3

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Xivor
Arenanet needs to buff hammer's attack speed, give it some AoE like Scythes or SOMETHING to make them worthwhile, first. The last thing that is important with hammers right now is how they look. They just plain suck.

And I have not seen any female hammer warriors in PvE, but that is most likely because I am not stupid enough to let a warrior with a hammer in my party.
A perfect reason why ANet should ignore Riverside when it comes to balance.

Hammers rock.

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don't pvp much, eh? hammers absolutely own, and plenty of female warriors use them...

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There's a few good looking, relatively big hammers;
Ice breaker
Golden maul
Ruby maul
Mursaat hammer
Tormented maul
Ram's hammer died black
Stonehead Hammer
Other hammers may have smaller heads and not as long but still look semi decent
Clouded Maul
Dwarven Hammer
Zodiac Hammer
Colossal Pick

Coolquest

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
A perfect reason why ANet should ignore Riverside when it comes to balance.

Hammers rock.
QFT, I was just commenting on the size of some of the cooler looking hammers leaves much to be desired =P

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I have a female Warrior that has one of each weapon type: Sword, Axe and Hammer. I don't use Hammer as much as the other two, but I still use it whenever I feel like it.

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Honestly i dont have any complaints about hammers

I myself use a hammer for 1.5 years now used same hammer(Gravel of Nephlim) which is a as you say a tiny hammer

Hammers are good enaugh and have ok attak speed Yes its slower then Axe or Sword but damage outup is pretty high in my standarts delivering 120+ to monks eles and other casters and damge close to 50-90 to warriors and dervs makes attak speed more or less not a problem. To those who asking anet to boos attak speed use skills such as Tiger stance boosts up yur speed

So stop begging =) for higher speed

Hammers like mursat hammer is huge so coulpe of other hammers there is n game

But lets be honest hammers are not that popular i feel like only Warrior with a hammer and probably ios 1 out of entire 100 person guild i am in =(

Lord Xivor

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Lol. I have 8mil experience on my dervish, with 3k hours in 20 months of game play. I am far from being a noob.

Sure, hammers have good usefulness in PvP, however, my assumption was that this thread was referring to PvE, which could have been a wrongful assumption. I will take the heat for that, if I am wrong in that.

However, my stance still does not change. Hammers in PvE = trash.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Xivor
Lol. I have 8mil experience on my dervish, with 3k hours in 20 months of game play. I am far from being a noob.
PvE doesn't force you to be good to beat it.

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Hammers in PvE = trash.
Plain wrong.
Keep the lulz coming.

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Same goes for a lot of swords and axes, too. Quite a bumma : (

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This thread is full of absolutely clueless newbs.
Well, this is Riverside.

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A good idea would be if Anet could scale up hammers depending on size, just like when you give Jora a weapon it is automatically scaled up because she is bigger in size. Scale hammers up in size a little for male warriors.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sword Liger
A good idea would be if Anet could scale up hammers depending on size, just like when you give Jora a weapon it is automatically scaled up because she is bigger in size. Scale hammers up in size a little for male warriors.
Would actually be kinda cool if, for a fee at the weapons smith, you could adjust the size of your weapon any time you want hah! Bah but then again we've been crying for such features for over 2 and a half years now, like change hair/face...

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Hammers suck in PVE only if you dont use them well. The right combination of skills on your bar and skills of your own makes them amazing. I am over 17 million xp on my ranger and find that my various Thumper builds do just fine. I prefer a sword on my warrior but do run hammer as the situation calls for it....High damage spikes, knockdown, weakness, deepwound, etc. (nothing to complain about in any of that)

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my war (female) uses swords, axes and hammers
and she uses this to crack some skulls http://gw.gamewikis.org/images/8/8e/Twin_Hammer.jpg

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
PvE doesn't force you to be good to beat it.

Plain wrong.
Keep the lulz coming.
True.

I dunno, unless you thought of an extremely creative build, a hammer warrior in PvE would be fairly boring/useless. Shutting down a monk of a mob with 3 isn't that beneficial, as a trade-off. Maybe a fun hammer build would work, like FGJ, BB, On your knees, Enraging charge, rinse and repeat.

But imo, a normal single target KD hammer warrior is fairly useless in PvE, especially for all the mobs that can't be knocked down.

upier

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Done.

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You're such a size queen.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kooomar
True.

I dunno, unless you thought of an extremely creative build, a hammer warrior in PvE would be fairly boring/useless. Shutting down a monk of a mob with 3 isn't that beneficial, as a trade-off. Maybe a fun hammer build would work, like FGJ, BB, On your knees, Enraging charge, rinse and repeat.

But imo, a normal single target KD hammer warrior is fairly useless in PvE, especially for all the mobs that can't be knocked down.
The main carrying strength of the PvE hammer guy is Earthshaker, it's fairly easy to knock a whole mob of casters with it. And when they're down, Crude Swing + Whirlwind Attack can build up enough adrenaline to knock them all down again.

And a constant knock-lock of an entire group is really sexy; if I've got a human Paragon with me (killing the need for DSlash/"SY!" spam), then Earthshaker is often my top choice.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kooomar
True.

I dunno, unless you thought of an extremely creative build, a hammer warrior in PvE would be fairly boring/useless. Shutting down a monk of a mob with 3 isn't that beneficial, as a trade-off. Maybe a fun hammer build would work, like FGJ, BB, On your knees, Enraging charge, rinse and repeat.

But imo, a normal single target KD hammer warrior is fairly useless in PvE, especially for all the mobs that can't be knocked down.
Hi, my name is [wiki]Earth Shaker[/wiki] and [wiki]Whirlwind Attack[/wiki] and [wiki]Crude Swing[/wiki]

This thread can PHAIL MOAR now? Yeh, ok.

As to the topic at hand. Yes, a size increase on SOME of the hammer skins would be nice, but not all of them.

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Would I be wrong in my belief that Hammers have the highest DPS of all warrior weapons? And that if their attack speed was increased that they'd be imbalanced? And that their only downside is that they're 2-handed, thus precluding the use of a shield?

I could be wrong

I agree at the embarrassment of teeny hammers though - my War is almost exclusively Axe, and the Factions endgame axe he got is terrible. There's nothing worse than a big warrior with a tiny chopper :/

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Xivor
Lol. I have 8mil experience on my dervish, with 3k hours in 20 months of game play. I am far from being a noob.

Sure, hammers have good usefulness in PvP, however, my assumption was that this thread was referring to PvE, which could have been a wrongful assumption. I will take the heat for that, if I am wrong in that.

However, my stance still does not change. Hammers in PvE = trash.
3k hours huh? Well I guess alex is right you dont have to be good at the game.

Hammers are good in pve too. You just can't be a braindead Ursan way nub to use them.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt
Would I be wrong in my belief that Hammers have the highest DPS of all warrior weapons? And that if their attack speed was increased that they'd be imbalanced? And that their only downside is that they're 2-handed, thus precluding the use of a shield?

I could be wrong

I agree at the embarrassment of teeny hammers though - my War is almost exclusively Axe, and the Factions endgame axe he got is terrible. There's nothing worse than a big warrior with a tiny chopper :/
But we is PvE scrubzzz!!!!111!! U must Beez a tankZ0Rz!! ROFLZ! I R URSAN! n0000b!

Welcome to PvE. Enjoy. /wrists.

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Hi, my name is [wiki]Earth Shaker[/wiki] and [wiki]Whirlwind Attack[/wiki] and [wiki]Crude Swing[/wiki]

This thread can PHAIL MOAR now? Yeh, ok.

As to the topic at hand. Yes, a size increase on SOME of the hammer skins would be nice, but not all of them.
Add Yeti smash. Crushing blow.

Really, as far as owning stuff and being usefull in PvE goes, hammers are so good that i use Goren when vanquishing. (shame his WY! had to go...)

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Originally Posted by kooomar
True.

I dunno, unless you thought of an extremely creative build, a hammer warrior in PvE would be fairly boring/useless. Shutting down a monk of a mob with 3 isn't that beneficial, as a trade-off. Maybe a fun hammer build would work, like FGJ, BB, On your knees, Enraging charge, rinse and repeat.

But imo, a normal single target KD hammer warrior is fairly useless in PvE, especially for all the mobs that can't be knocked down.
Then maybe all the non knock down hammer skill should be remove from the game.

Hammer are more then just KD, just like warriors are much more then just TANK.

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1-Female warriors use hammers. I swear.

2-Anet have buffed some hammer attacks. Don´t cry. Hammers with a big IAS= imbalancing.

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I'd like to restate again that THIS THREAD IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE SIZE OF HAMMERS, PURELY AESTHETIC! I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ABILITIES OF HAMMERS. I don't think enough people understand me, and whoever posted about scaling by size of the player, that is a great idea

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My Victo's Maul does nicely, it's big and spiky... but yes, we need some bigger, more impressive hammers, not just big hunky chunks of wood on a stick.

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In Ra you see more Female using hammer then you see devona

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http://realmsbeyond.net/gw/armaments.html#hammer


Here is a bunch of different hammers. Some of them are small, others are pretty nice sized. Take our pick.

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I'd like to comment that in real medieval times, hammers weren't actually that big. Generally the hitting part (I forget the name) would be the size of an adult's fist at most.

Your huge Guild Wars hammers are about as realistic as those retarded Final Fantasy swords.

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Quote:
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In Ra you see more Female using hammer then you see devona
Argh - reminds me of my first trip to TA. Was coerced into playing monk, much against my wishes. Match started, Hammer Warrioress sprinted to me...

...didn't get a single damn spell off ><

...slinked off back to PvE where I belong.

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[card]Backbreaker[/card] and [card]Earth Shaker[/card]

use them

and yea the torment hammer is sexy and big