whats with people hating paragons? ._.

Eilo Rytyj

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishmonger
QFT

I want to make a rit/mes/para party one day and see how much hell we could bring to.....well......everything Problem is, it will be so much awesomeness that it'll make Anet's servers go poof.

That, and we'd all look far too good doing it.



i call dibs on being a Rt!

Richardt

Richardt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishmonger
QFT

I want to make a rit/mes/para party one day and see how much hell we could bring to.....well......everything
That would be EPIC.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

No really, lets do that.
I have a kickass mesmer build if ya want help!

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
I think its because the idea is of someone in the middle of the battlefield with crossfire saying "SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!""SAVE YOURSELFS!"
You're Shouting it Wrong:

"There's Nothing To Fear!" "SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!""SAVE YOURSELVES!"

Wild Karrde

Wild Karrde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
I hate Paragons because everyone thinks they're so godly. You never see accomplishment threads for warriors or warrior gatherings, it's just stuff for paragons. Everyone loves the paragons, everyone hates the warriors. The more love for paragons, the more us warriors are cast aside. There's a natural hatred between the two.
This has something to do with how many BAD warriors there are. Its rediculous how many HORRIBLE builds Ive seen some warriors run. Whereas its hard to make a Paragon horrible cause you can put just about anything on them and still do great DPS and turn god mode on with your shouts.

The reason I hate paragons is because they have Warrior level armor and do warrior level damage at range and can turn entire parties into nigh unstoppable behemoths

Quru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Acolytes of Death

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One finnish guild clears entire fow with all-warriors group:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAPO_wZVTh4

Finnish GW forum topic:
http://www.gwfi.ws/index.php?topic=1135.0

EDIT:
Thought this don't work anymore because of armor-stacking nerf and other skill "balances"

Richardt

Richardt

Jungle Guide

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Sadly I heard about such all warrior feats after the armor stacking nerf-would've loved to get in on some of that.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Once you see this video I made, you will fully understand why people don't play paragon:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tEbMQMW6TxA

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Once you see this video I made, you will fully understand why people don't play paragon:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tEbMQMW6TxA
Please don't make any more videos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Karrde
Whereas its hard to make a Paragon horrible cause you can put just about anything on them and still do great DPS and turn god mode on with your shouts. It's really easy to make a paragon horrible, just look at some build threads around here.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Once you see this video I made, you will fully understand why people don't play paragon:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tEbMQMW6TxA

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

You guys clearly didn't get the joke >_>
(Partypoopers....)

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
You guys clearly didn't get the joke >_>
(Partypoopers....) If that's a joke, where's the fun part ?

RedNova88

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

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Paragons didn't get the nickname IMBAgons for no reason! The skills "There's nothing to fear!" is reason enough to bring one! On top of that if you have a Warrior with "Save Yourselves!" you basically have god mode in your group right there with those 2 skills alone. People dislike Paragons for some very stupid reasons... I like to think of playing a Paragon as playing a "Stupid Alarm", if people don't invite you because they think Paragons are weak, then you're probably better off with a pure henchmen group...

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
You guys clearly didn't get the joke >_>
(Partypoopers....) Seeing how this thread mentions alot of gw players believing how Paragons suck, it's very possible and even likely that people will consider your statement seriously.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

All of us understand it's supposed to be a joke. But jokes are supposed to be funny.

Cruel Intentionsz

Cruel Intentionsz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Florida

[OLD]

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I actually just made a paragon this weekend using a party support build n tehre fun n godly gives me a little break from my main which is an ele thats all about damage

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

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I've honestly haven't played with or even noticed a single Paragon outside of Nightfall yet (PvE)(started playing again for about a week or so). Perhaps the lack of players using them is why they aren't accepted.

Bront

Bront

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Honored Order of Light

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
It's testament to how badly ANet screwed up with the Paragon that, one and a half years on, and after nothing but nerf upon nerf, the Paragon is still incredibly strong and is still getting nerfed. They've successfully Nerfed the Warrior into Oblivion due to the Paragon though.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Warriors are still very strong too; it's not like warriors really used Tactics.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Err, yes and no. They had a few options, but the multiple nerfs has removed most of the viablitiy of that skill line (which is why I don't like paragons). So I guess it was an overall weak skill line that has degraded into uselessness.

Richardt

Richardt

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan
I've honestly haven't played with or even noticed a single Paragon outside of Nightfall yet (PvE)(started playing again for about a week or so). Perhaps the lack of players using them is why they aren't accepted. That's the interesting thing I noticed-lots of people make paragons and you see them all over the place in the low end areas.

But get to the high end-or heck even just off noob island-and you hardly see 'em.

My theory is that everyone hears about how great paras are, then they make one to see for themselves, but they do horrible at it and draw the conclusion that they suck. We had a couple of guys like this in a guild we had in our allinace.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Warriors are still very strong too; it's not like warriors really used Tactics. But my precious [skill]Gladiator's Defense[/skill] and [skill]Riposte[/skill]/[skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill].......

Hodgie

Hodgie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

On A Chair

Rise Of Corruption

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
I hate Paragons because everyone thinks they're so godly. You never see accomplishment threads for warriors or warrior gatherings, it's just stuff for paragons. Everyone loves the paragons, everyone hates the warriors. The more love for paragons, the more us warriors are cast aside. There's a natural hatred between the two. Your a VERY angry man

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

People that hate paragons don't understand them, or just get bored with them easily.

I love playing paragon, but certain builds get incredibly boring (motigon).

Katari

Katari

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Upstate

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People don't like paragons because they don't have an obvious role in Tank'n'nuke gameplay. All those eles out there with 8 fire skills? How about wammos in PvE with both ripostes and a bar of block stances? Those are the guys who think paragons are bad, but they'd also think mindblasters with support are weaker than 'pure fire eles.'

I mean, what good is support when you have a tank to hold agro, and eles to blast things?

Arrgh.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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i will never pug again after trying a slavers pug with an obby tank.
omg it was bad
the tank was bitchy kid who kept going about how eles are suppsed to just sit there and nuke, even though after 4 near wipes with me being the last ele alive and rezing the whole team he started to shut up.
the monks didn't know how to kite either they stood there trying to heal while the enimies raped them
the other eles had no idea how to priority nuke they just nuked the warriors, which is typical tank and spank tactics but still when there are 4 monks nearby and the obby tank is not moving twords them you do have to nuke the healers first.

it was sad as hell.
i will never again pug in slavers

also i just bring pure dps warrior and a imbagon.

1 ub with Sabway
1 imbagon with the Paraway build
=everything dies fast

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katari
People don't like paragons because they don't have an obvious role in Tank'n'nuke gameplay. All those eles out there with 8 fire skills? How about wammos in PvE with both ripostes and a bar of block stances? Those are the guys who think paragons are bad, but they'd also think mindblasters with support are weaker than 'pure fire eles.'

I mean, what good is support when you have a tank to hold agro, and eles to blast things?

Arrgh. my thoughts completely.