Secret Lair of Snowman TIPS/BUILDS [Merged]

eddie2593

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

10 Mar 2008 at 21:35 - 1

Hey.....
every1 keeps saying this place is gr8 for dwarf rep farming by completing the dungeon in 10-15mins....

but with my warrior i use a VwK build with AoE eles(1 hero 2 hench) and 4 monks(2 hero 2 hench)....it takes me around 20-30 mins.....

does any1 know a gd build that might make this run more efficent and more effective?

Thankz

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

10 Mar 2008 at 21:47 - 2

Either Ursan Blessing w/SH or SF heroes, or Triple Chop, whirlwind attack and cyclone axe. I am the Strongest too.

End

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

10 Mar 2008 at 22:05 - 3

I did it once with me and 2 freinds. The three of us were all eles each brought and mm and then we brought 2 healers. I think it was something like that. Anyway theres more then enough corpses to keep up a few mms.

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

10 Mar 2008 at 22:05 - 4

You have way too many monks; that is why it takes so long. Bring Fire eles to blow them up.

Orfas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

behind you!

Archangels Fury [AF]

10 Mar 2008 at 22:05 - 5

i use my SY warr and my heroes are a MM a SF ele and dunk for henchies i like zho cynn talon mhenlo and eve and i do it in 15min...

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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10 Mar 2008 at 22:06 - 6

I clear in 10 mins with:

2 monk + 2 ele hench
2 SH ele heroes
MM bomber hero

Your build doesn't matter a whole lot

Miska Bow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

10 Mar 2008 at 22:12 - 7

I play ranger and when i go there its 2 MM and 1 monk prot hero. 2 ele and 2 monk henchies.

I play barrage/volley/on this one. its works wonder, but most of the time i just leech.

You can also solo the first 2 wave as seen here:http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10262420

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Idiot Savants [iQ]

10 Mar 2008 at 23:15 - 8

You would get done much faster if you were doing something with your Warrior other than standing there holding a pot of ashes... with a four Monk backline.

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

12 Mar 2008 at 15:46 - 9

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

12 Mar 2008 at 17:39 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by llsektorll

[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill]

all i needed to get max delver.....

for heros you need

2 MMs - ICE GOLEMS LEAVE CORPSES so before i used golem and jagged... but TAKE 2 JAGGED BOMBERS!
1 N/Rt Jagged as elite and all resto heals ... life/protective was kaolai... ect

2 hench healers
2 any hench.. i took cyn for aoe Too much defense imo. 3 healers? 2 MMs? Minion damage isn't that significant unless you have OoU/Barbs/MoP/etc, and 10 mins is plenty to soak the damage. 2 hench healers are plenty. AoE wins - 1 MM, 2 hench monks, and as much AoE as you can pack in.

eddie2593

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

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12 Mar 2008 at 17:52 - 11

i got defiant was xinrae
but they never seem 2 target me!!

furanshisuko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

R/

12 Mar 2008 at 18:01 - 12

sabs build works

Boren Supremecy

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

St Louis

La Cosa Snowstra [SNOW]

N/A

12 Mar 2008 at 18:18 - 13

bring 2 MMs and 1 SH or SF ele and then the 2 monks and ele henches

the 20 minions will absorb all the damage

eddie2593

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

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12 Mar 2008 at 18:19 - 14

new record!
18:51 mins!!!

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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12 Mar 2008 at 18:21 - 15

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boren Supremecy
bring 2 MMs and 1 SH or SF ele and then the 2 monks and ele henches

the 20 minions will absorb all the damage Like I said above, 10 minions absorbs all the damage too - 2 MMs denies you damage output.

eddie2593

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

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12 Mar 2008 at 18:42 - 16

kk ty
any advice on wht 2 brign instead?

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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12 Mar 2008 at 18:50 - 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -
I clear in 10 mins with:

2 monk + 2 ele hench
2 ele heroes
MM bomber hero

Your build doesn't matter a whole lot ^ Yet to see anything clear it faster.

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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14 Mar 2008 at 05:44 - 18

Did it yesterday :
A ss (me)
2 SF ele
1 SF mesmer (acolyte sosuke wasn't level 20 xD)
Mhenlo, Lina, Cynn and Herta.

It was fairly easy (even though I died due to too many snowmens xD).
But with a mm I think it would have been easier.

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

14 Mar 2008 at 18:04 - 19

Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -

Too much defense imo. 3 healers? 2 MMs? Minion damage isn't that significant unless you have OoU/Barbs/MoP/etc, and 10 mins is plenty to soak the damage. 2 hench healers are plenty. AoE wins - 1 MM, 2 hench monks, and as much AoE as you can pack in. see i like to live... and not party wipe so i can keep my hunt ramapge... you obviously have not seen splinter barrage at work here.... i have some screens when i get home tonight i can post it... also i did this back in november on the first double weekend with the build i mentioned above it should be really easy.... you don't need barbs bro they die too fast in hm in as well

Kaida the Heartless

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

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14 Mar 2008 at 18:33 - 20

Monks = Prot Spirit + SoA + WoH
Fire Eles = Searing Flames
Necro = Jagged
You = Defiant was Xinrea

1 Monk, 1 Necro, 1 You, and 5 Eles

Piece of Cake.

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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14 Mar 2008 at 21:25 - 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
see i like to live... and not party wipe so i can keep my hunt ramapge... you obviously have not seen splinter barrage at work here.... i have some screens when i get home tonight i can post it... also i did this back in november on the first double weekend with the build i mentioned above it should be really easy.... you don't need barbs bro they die too fast in hm in as well I finish with 0 deaths, too... so what's your point? I have splinter barraged here, and where did I say anything against that? And I was not implying you should use barbs here, I'm saying that one MM's minions is plenty for soaking up damage, and having more reduces your damage rather than increasing it. Got any real point to make?

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

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16 Mar 2008 at 03:12 - 22

Just curious tain what ele heroes do you run with your minion bomber? Usually when I bring searing flames eles they run out of energy during long battles even with gole and only searing flames and glowing gaze.

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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16 Mar 2008 at 03:23 - 23

I hate SF in general, but it works well here since everything dies too fast for SH and heroes fail at MB. They use this well - they keep up with energy and everything falls over.

12 fire, 10 storage, 8 insp

[card]Searing Flames[/card][card]Glowing Gaze[/card][card]Power Drain[/card][card]Breath of Fire[/card][card]Liquid Flame[/card][card]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/card][card]Fire Attunement[/card][card]Aura of Restoration[/card]

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

16 Mar 2008 at 17:09 - 24

Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -
I finish with 0 deaths, too... so what's your point? I have splinter barraged here, and where did I say anything against that? And I was not implying you should use barbs here, I'm saying that one MM's minions is plenty for soaking up damage, and having more reduces your damage rather than increasing it. Got any real point to make? If i were to do it right now i'd probably go ursan with ursan roar buffing the allies at r10 norn... gg

Tearz1993

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Relentless Aggressors [rA]

R/Mo

16 Mar 2008 at 17:12 - 25

I know i'll probably sound scrubby, but about how long would it take to get from r0 to r5 using snowman HM?

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

16 Mar 2008 at 17:53 - 26

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tearz1993
I know i'll probably sound scrubby, but about how long would it take to get from r0 to r5 using snowman HM? not very long.... i believe its about 1k-2k per run... which takes 12minutes

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

16 Mar 2008 at 18:24 - 27

Secret Lair is very simple both on NM and HM, but as a meelee dude u should never hack those in meelee range, these things ignore armor and it becomes v. painful.

So get urself a scythe or a bow and chuck them wit it.

As for heroes I was running this in there:

Fire Hero (Zhed)

Fire 14
Energy 9
Chan 10

Savannah Heat
Searing Heat
Thenai's Heat
Meteor
GoLE
Ancestor's Rage
Splinter Weapon
Death Pact Signet

IV Bomber (MoW)

Death 16
Soul 13

Icy Veins
Rising Bile
Putrid Bile
Rotting Flesh
Signet of Lost Souls
Animate Bone Minions
Death Nova
Death Pact Signet (dont remember this exactly, was loooong time ago ive maxed teh title -_-)

Hard Prot (Tahlk)

Prot 14
Dev 13

SoR
SoA
Shielding Hands
Prot Spirit (Hate it on monks but it works there)
Blessed Aura
GoLE
Dismiss Condition
Remove Hex

Me

Im an Assassin and it hurts rushiong in these mobs as a meelee, so I whent as a critbar wit mi black moa as a perfect tank and dmg wire for Zhed's AR, worked wonders!

Those Snowmen were dieing in masses explowding and taking survivors (if any) down too, each run took me approx 10-15mins.

HF!!!

~Super Igor~

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

16 Mar 2008 at 18:26 - 28

Secret Lair is very simple both on NM and HM, but as a meelee dude u should never hack those in meelee range, these things ignore armor and it becomes v. painful.

So get urself a scythe or a bow and chuck them wit it.

As for heroes I was running this in there:

Fire Hero (Zhed)

Fire 14
Energy 9
Chan 10

Savannah Heat
Searing Heat
Thenai's Heat
Meteor
GoLE
Ancestor's Rage
Splinter Weapon
Death Pact Signet

IV Bomber (MoW)

Death 16
Soul 13

Icy Veins
Rising Bile
Putrid Bile
Rotting Flesh
Signet of Lost Souls
Animate Bone Minions
Death Nova
Death Pact Signet (dont remember this exactly, was loooong time ago ive maxed teh title -_-)

Hard Prot (Tahlk)

Prot 14
Dev 13

SoR
SoA
Shielding Hands
Prot Spirit (Hate it on monks but it works there)
Blessed Aura
GoLE
Dismiss Condition
Remove Hex

Me

Im an Assassin and it hurts rushiong in these mobs as a meelee, so I whent as a critbar wit mi black moa as a perfect tank and dmg wire for Zhed's AR, worked wonders!

Those Snowmen were dieing in masses explowding and taking survivors (if any) down too, each run took me approx 10-15mins.

HF!!!

~Super Igor ~

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

16 Mar 2008 at 18:26 - 29

omg double post sorry! Im new to gurus still!

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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16 Mar 2008 at 19:08 - 30

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
If i were to do it right now i'd probably go ursan with ursan roar buffing the allies at r10 norn... gg Minion attack speed is still 2 secs... gg - it's still slower.

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

16 Mar 2008 at 19:27 - 31

5s duration 15s recharge... its worth it to be up 33% of the time

Kelson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

16 Mar 2008 at 20:35 - 32

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor
Prot Spirit (Hate it on monks but it works there)
PS is crap there, nothing should be triggering it.
SoA, Shielding Hands, Seed of Life are your friends.

2 human monks
5 SF necros
1 Olias with

Icy Veins
Putrid Bile
Putrid Explosion
Signet of Lost Souls
Animate Bone Minions
Death Nova
SoA/Splinter Weapon
Shielding hands/Ancestor's Rage

was how I did it, runs were 7-8 mins, MM was a little slow, but lets monks be more lazy/bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by llsektorll
If i were to do it right now i'd probably go ursan with ursan roar buffing the allies at r10 norn... gg Ursan is also crap here, every class has something more effective, Ursan skills recharge too slowly/don't do enough aoe/weakness is useless/a damage boost for minions is a terrible reason etc, etc etc.

eddie2593

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

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17 Mar 2008 at 13:34 - 33

the only proplem with "Defiant was Xinrea"
they never ever attack me!!
they always go for mhenlo r cynn which is sooooooooo annoying!!

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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17 Mar 2008 at 14:34 - 34

Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie2593
the only proplem with "Defiant was Xinrea"
they never ever attack me!!
they always go for mhenlo r cynn which is sooooooooo annoying!! If you're running Xinrae, you can flag your group back before starting the fight - if you're the first (and only) thing for them to target, you'll be hit with Snowballs.

eddie2593

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

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17 Mar 2008 at 15:33 - 35

Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -
If you're running Xinrae, you can flag your group back before starting the fight - if you're the first (and only) thing for them to target, you'll be hit with Snowballs. if i did that id be dead in less than a second

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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17 Mar 2008 at 15:41 - 36

It's 50 damage a snowball, you shouldn't die that fast.. but anyway, if it's a problem, have a hero cast SoA or Shielding Hands on you before you run in.

eddie2593

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

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19 Mar 2008 at 22:27 - 37

Quote:
Originally Posted by - Tain -
It's 50 damage a snowball, you shouldn't die that fast.. but anyway, if it's a problem, have a hero cast SoA or Shielding Hands on you before you run in. arent there attacks armor ignoring dmg, like ursan

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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20 Mar 2008 at 03:15 - 38

Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie2593
arent there attacks armor ignoring dmg, like ursan Since when did those two spells have anything to do with armor? Damage reduction is damage reduction, it's completely separate from armor. Just like an enemy using SoA will reduce damage from your ursan skills, this will reduce the damage you take from snowballs.

Deathaxe Raizer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

The Last Pride [EvIL]

20 Mar 2008 at 20:53 - 39

[skill]Mantra of Frost[/skill]

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

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20 Mar 2008 at 21:43 - 40

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathaxe Raizer
[skill]Mantra of Frost[/skill] ^Will not work. Snowman auto-attacks deal cold damage, but the Snowball spell deals untyped damage and is not reduced.

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