What are some of the most useless skills in GW?

[skill]infuse health[/skill] must have in pvp... plague in pve...

Its called SB spike or Soul Barbs Spike. It was meta a long time ago.

many skills need really some serious buffs, because they are kinda totally useless either, or the skills have soem effects, wherefor exist like with similar effects 1-3 another skills, which are far more effective, due to higher damage output, better recharge time or lesser adrenaline/energy cost ect. ...

The dumb problem about all those skills is - anet could easily buff them for pve, but much of them would be surely overpowered for pvp.
The typical shit problem about the twin usage of skills, that the ksills have in pve the same effects as in pve and due to that balancing affects ever both modes -.-

And the game has too much skills imo, the game never needed all those "clone" skills for example with same efrects, but other names...

Wherefore do we have the Echo-Skills oO? -.-

Many Skills could be theoretically be erased and the effects put to other skills, by making out of some normal Skills Elite Skills...

Example:

[skill]Escape[/skill] + [skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill] + [skill]Dodge[/skill]

Could be all merged to 1 Elite Skill:

Lightning Reflex Escape >10E, 20RL

For the next 5-10 seconds you move and attack 25% faster, your dodge rate for physical and projectile attacks will be 50-75%. This Stance will end, if you use an Attack Skill.
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[skill]Trapper's Focus[/skill] + [skill]Trapper's Speed[/skill]

Trapper's Arts > 5E, 2CT, 20RT

For the next 5-25 seconds can't you be interrupted while setting traps.
Your traps will also active 25% quicker and and reload also 25% quicker.
This Stance will end, if you run out of Energy or your HP goes below 50%
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[skill]Zojun's Haste[/skill] + [skill]Zojun's Shot[/skill]

2 Clone Skills that this game absolutely doesn't need!!
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[skill]Bestial Mauling[/skill] + [skill]Bestial Pounce[/skill]

Bestial Assault > 5E, 15RT [Elite]

The Pet Attack will deal +5-17 additional Damage, if this attack hits a spell casting Foe, the foe will be knocked down, if the foe was already knocked down, when this attack hits, then this attack deals additional +5-17 Damage and the foe will suffer for 5-10 seconds on Daze.
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[skill]Bestial Fury[/skill]

Again such a Clone Skill, the game absolutely doesn't need
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[skill]Rampage As One[/skill] + [skill]Run As One[/skill]

Skill 2 can be deleted really, no sense for this skill with ramapage and ramapage needs to get lowered Skill Cost of 15E, to become more vial to the PvE only Version, and raise the recharge from 10 to 15 or 20, so that this skill can#t be theoretically kept up permanenly...

or

[skill]Strike As One[/skill] + [skill]Run as One[/skill]

simple combien those 2 skills and give strike the effect of run too
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[skill]Call of Haste[/skill] + [skill]Predatory Bond[/skill]

Call of Predatory [Elite] > 10E, 25RT
For the next 30 seconds your pet will attack and move 25% and the attacks of your pet will heal it and you by 5-15 HP

ect. pp.

you can make hundreds of examples of good possible Skill Fusions to get rid of some totally useless skills and skill clones to receive some more useful really good Elite Skills

Pheonix, you understand "Evade" was removed from this game don't you...

Some skills are just designed badly, so they're either too good or absolute shit.
Much like some of the classes in general, Assassin for one.
Paragon & Ritualist, unremovable buffs?
Dervs, immunity to conditions?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10247440
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10008331

We have those two. Do we need another one?

[skill]Swirling Aura[/skill] is trash.

Except the BiP guy has to spec heavily into Blood Magic, a very weak skill line. TPIY is pretty amazing in elite missions.

roffle the power is yours useful now thats funny

Ursan Blessing, in the sense of uselessness, not the OP.

Btw, Peace and Harmony is amazing on heroes set to avoid combat.

yeah i know, meant naturally block rate ... a typo

It gives 10 or less energy, for 10 energy. then you get about 0 energy unless you spam some adrenaline shouts. Quite crappy, a buff would help it.

hmm i took a break from GW during the EOE bomb craze, can someone tell me the original function of the skill?

I agree that lava arrows is not so great, but i disagree with you ride the lightning.

Ride the lightning is used a lot in PvP (RA, AB) and is good for a E/A Spike build.

With Mirror of ice i have seen being used in PvP as well. (RA, TA) I don't think it's great but it isn't horrible..

I wouldn't say that all these skills are useless on a Warrior as for others well there quite a few.

What are you talking about? This skill is awesome. Learn how to use it better.

For all you noobs who don't know how to use this skill, I'll teach you all how to properly use this.

Go to some random pvp place.
Spot an AFKer.
Cast it on them and 5 seconds later...
BAM!!!111one
Punish those AFKers!

OK, OK, I know it's lame. I'm bored at work so I just had to post something stupid to entertain myself (and hopefully, somebody found this funny).

As for [skill]Healer's Covenant[/skill], it actually has its use. Its healing doesn't affect enchants so Patient Spirit, Vigorous Spirit, etc. are just as effective but cost less energy. Granted, these are not the greatest healing skills in the game, but good for some passive healing. Also, heroes benefit well from HC. Since heroes spam the crap out of healing spells on allies who barely lost 30 HP, stick HC on along with 5e healing spells and hero's can maintain energy pretty well. I wouldn't recommend these as your regular healing builds, but they do have some use.

The most useless skill I've seen in GW is "Gloat" (used by the Charr). It's used elsewhere as well, but requires no actual skill.

[skill]Choose Class: Assassin[/skill]

pretty useless.

haha i just ran that mish for someone today and was like "WTF did that CHARR just f*ckin /rank me?!!"

[card]Peace and Harmony[/card] or [card]Wastrel's Collapse[/card]

pls anet lets make wastrel's useful

I rarely use warrior but...
[skill]Charging Strike[/skill]PVE runner sometimes use it.
[skill]Flail[/skill]
[skill]Headbutt[/skill][skill]Plague Touch[/skill]
[skill]"Retreat!"[/skill]IWAY charger
[skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill]always see that
[skill]Disciplined Stance[/skill]you probably don't play deep
[skill]"You're All Alone!"[/skill]you probably don't play AB
[skill]Frenzied Defense[/skill]you probably don't play RA

I didn't point out all of those but.....many of the skills you mentioned is useful. Even if it's kinda unless, you should have seen ppl using those. I guess you don't play GW much!?

My vote is for Symbolic Strike. It seems like it was just kind of tossed into the game without much thought.

[card]Second Wind[/card] [card]Energy Boon[/card]

I am willing to be corrected (as I was about Healers Covenant and such) but does anyone use these?

lmao
right now at this moment, I'm playing a symbolic [email protected] war in RA. Not efficient but fun enough.

wastrels collapse, could be useful for a spike chain involving black out, diversion, wastrals worry, i guess

@ Firefly21

You need to play the game a little bit more.

I like infuse even in PvE, monked my way through Urgoz Warren hard mode with it. These hammer wardens spike like madmen. Infuse poor sod->mop up with LoD->hope poor sod knows how to kite.

Same for tomb of primeval kings, where prot royally sucks.

Mirror of Ice, sounds effective but no one actually uses them.
They need to make Mirror of Ice, Targetable to Other Allies too.

And Shorten "All Power is Yours" to 5 seconds.

Peace and Harmony, no doubt about it...

Agree 500%.


Ursan Blessing = useless.


Gift of Health = uber good.


Obviously people that cant play the game think the other way around.


Healers Covenant is amazing. My healer hero has it now and never runs out of energy, and heals good too with the Enchants + D kiss, also with Divine Healing + Heavens Delight.


Full bar is something like:


D kiss
Patient Spirit
Vigorous Spirit
2x Spotless spells
Healers Covenant
Heavens Delight
Divine healing


Epic pro hero bar, if you dont use it yet I feel sorry for you. Dare I say that I actually swap a spotless skill for healing breeze sometimes. Yea laugh at me for using healing breeze becuz it means I fail right?


And for the info, I *ONLY* use it where enchant removal isnt a problem, like in RA


[skill]peace and harmony[/skill] is still a lot better and more useful then [skill]"The Power Is Yours!"[/skill]