New Article on Official Site About Gold Companies

Official Article

Now I don't have much to say about this except... If you don't want us to buy from those companies, don't take away every freaking way to get gold in-game for our selves.

Now, I am not saying that there is no way to make gold in-game for ourselves anymore, but if you look around greens which were in the 15-50k range not even a year ago are now hardly worth 5k, sure there are a few still worth around 20k, but you must agree, hardly any.

Golds, ahh yes, golds... hard to find and still only less than a fourth of them are actually worth anything, and that depends on the mods, req, and skin you get, and like the green issue, an Elemental Sword hardly half a year ago was in the 400k ranges for a req 9, now (you only have to look in the price guide, or in the trade chat for proof) they are worth as much as a Dead Sword before everyone found out how to farm them.

Also, we can't forget the runs... Temple of the Damned is the trend right now, but just like Drok's and Morah runs, just about everyone knows how to run them which means that from the Drok's price of 10k in the beginning to 4-6k in the middle, it has dropped to a miniscule 1-2k, hardly worth the time, right?

So someone is obviously to blame, is it the tragic 12-year old nerd life destroying nerfs? is it the insane idiots that think their cool posting the build on pvxwiki? or is it something else, like the overly-kind runners that reveal their build for all to see?

The main point of this entire article is that there is hardly no way to be profitable enough to look like an original player pimp (I am at 15 sets of 15k and 1 vabbian, and I still don't consider myself one) sure everything has their bottom price and Anet has been lovely people (sarcasm for those who can't tell) and added dungeons, sure, dungeons, that fixes the problem. The profit per hour can't even touch the toes of some of the good farming builds of the past.

Now I did type this article in anger of the article that Anet published on their main page, which I will probably regret, but how can they tell us to not buy gold from these companies if they take away all the methods of good old-style farming that leave us with methods that are monotenus, boring, and not profitable, compared to the fun, exciting, and profitable farming days of old. Farming was something for those people to do when they beat all the campaigns, now days everyone just quits for a few months, and then come back to see whats new, then quit again. I have personally seen dozens of guilds collapse due to the boredom of post-completion.

Anet nerfed mob farming with loot-scaling. Yeah, right. Bot companies are still active arn't they? DUH! THat's because they don't have to deal with the long hours of monotenus farming, the computers do it! Plus they get more buisness due to the people that lose hope and buy gold! If you don't get that, I'll put a real life situation in for you.

D.C. law states you cannot carry a handgun, the only thing that does it screw the good people, good people can't get guns for their protection and leisure, but law-breakers still can (or at least a high percentage can) because they know their way around (black market for you slow people).

Now transfer that into Guild Wars... vuala! you got yourself the same situation, the law-breakers (bots) still farm and get money and buisness (equivalent to robbing in D.C. case) while the good people (good people) can't get an efficiant amount of gold with the profit:time ratio.

All negative opinions will be ignored as this is a rant, and no one really cares what you have to say, neither do they care about what I just wrote, so why did you read it? Reflect on that instead of complain about what I wrote.

ShoganKiller-The Official Killer of Shoguns (and the occasional Anet employee)

How do you think most of these people got their gloves and FoW? I'm not saying everyone's a gold buyer, but when you have 1500 ecto + armbraces in your storage, eyebrows start to rise.

That is a sure way of generating massive flames.

OT: There are still plenty of ways to make gold ingame. Only the lame buy gold on Ebay.

Hmm, have you personally asked them if they bought gold? No. Also, have you asked them when they bought the armor? No. If they bought the armor (minus chaos gloves) before loot scaling then it doesn't contradict my point.

I used to play GW a lot, now with the way the drops are there is really not much reason to play. I have finished all the games, granted not in hard mode but I get tired of not getting much of anything for the effort. Ok, I know, the satisfaction of being able to say I did it. Pfft, nope. I haven't gotten a green in forever, I get very little gold, pretty much all it is now is killing things.

I dunno, maybe it is just me.

Other then the Loot Scaling affecting solo farming really badly, I still wouldnt consider anything whatsoever a reason to buy gold from these gold selling websites.

I can Solo UW on my elly for Ectos, and Duo FoW with my monk and a hero for Obi Shards. If I need money I have no problem making it.

I've made a few hundred Ectos so far from just doing UW runs one or two times a month. If you do them daily, 1500 ectos is easy to get.

If you read the rest of that it should notify that you shouldn't care what I have to say either. Which means don't be a woman raging on pms (I know I'll get heat for that) and let it go instead of always having to get your word in.

So, you lied?

Like I said, it isn't impossible to get gold now days, but is extremly restricted to the ways on doing it, which, if you notice, I said monotenus alot. Probably wrong spelling but you get the point.

i can only make money with power trading lately, tried UW did 5full smite runs and got 0 ectos - i gave up then. As it is atm, i think it pretty much sux, where are the times when you could earn cash with greenies, average golds, etc.

No, I am just explaining, and just because I answer doesn't mean they are not ignored, and just because it is negative in your eyes doesn't mean it is negative in mine.

Just one more comment about this:

The only thing that Anet themselves have done to affect farming is loot scaling. They dont determine the prices of greens and golds, the supply and demand in the player community does.

When greens and new skins are first announced, they start off expensive. As more and more people get them, either by buying or farming them, the price goes down. Anet have no controll over this and how much Items sell for in the community.

LMFAO @ quickmonty. Great pic.

I understand what he means for someone new to the game. Someone that play that game for 2 years know how to make money ... someone that bought the game 3 months ago... unless he got lucky and found a good guild that gonna explain him fast ... he is screwed!

Thanks for posting the link.
It would have been nice if you meant what you said in the first sentence. Snow summed up my thoughts on the rant in the first reply rather well.

lol at monty's penguin pic; Projectile Penguin Poo!

Best post in this thread.

there are ways to make a tone of cash in game its just a massive grind. as for the market in general ive said for a long time just dump the greens. or make them so rare that they will always hold value to a degree. Also a-net has always punished the creative people who can construct builds that are effective. they do it through skill nerf or enviromental nerf. perfect example: trolls in talus. ok there were no ectos OB shards greens or any other High end loot to be had. just troll tusks occasional golds and some dyes. YET they had to nerf it. why??? what harm was it doin? you couldnt make millions doin it but if someone had the giddy-up to stick to it they could make enough to get the 15k or that epic fell blade or whatever they wanted. but even that little money maker was stomped out. i dont know maybe its all about makin tough for the common joe. i know for an absolute certainty it has NO effect on the power traders. nothing will ever effect them unless ectos are eliminated. Also as for people doing the whole 2500 ecto + armbraces... lol yea. not sayin.......just sayin?????



Cronk

Hmm, I guess I should be upset at ANet according to this logic. I have not been a part of any powertrading, grinding farm, solo farming, loot scaling hating, parts of the game whatsoever for the last three years. I am still having lots of fun, and have more than enough gold from my exploits to enjoy all the skills I desire when I desire, a few sets of 15k (including one FoW for my Ranger which was fuggggggggly), etc etc.

Clearly ANet has failed to upset me, and has only attempted to curb the illegal activities while not affecting my game. Shame on you ANet.

Wait...

Ban the sellers. Ban the buyers (who are just as guilty as the sellers...no buyers = no reason for sellers to exist). Both are against the ToS.

It is possible to have nice stuff without having to buy gold. Buyers are just the lazy ones that don't want to work for it. The expensive stuff is expensive for a reason...it's supposed to be an achievement. One of my characters has FoW. Another has Chaos Gloves. Did I eBay? Nope. Anyone that says there's no other way is dead wrong. They are just being lazy.

So GG to anet. Keep banning.


(and yeah...the stereotype is annoying..."He has Fow and I don't because I'm too lazy to work for it. I'll call him an eBayer out of envy.")

And why cant someone that is new to the game learn in exactly the same way that everone else has? Ask people, read the forums and wiki, try to farm an get better at it.

It took me 6-8 months to learn how to make money, but those first few months were still extremely enjoyable because if you are new to the game, it isnt all about making money and getting the best looking 15k armor right from the start. You can play and enjoy the game in a suit of 1k armor with no disadvantage whatsoever.

And armor is really the only thing you need money for in GW.