http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates/20080321
Bug Fixes
Assassin
Shadow Walk: this skill now completely prevents the casting of enchantments. Previously the enchantment would fail immediately after activation, causing the caster to lose Energy.
Necromancer
Dark Aura: fixed a bug that caused the caster of Dark Aura to take damage instead of losing Health.
Update Friday, March 21 2008
Shadow Kurd
Solas
nice update, fast too
StormDragonZ
Never used them, so it doesn't affect me at all.
Dallcingi
yay no more abuse in ha/ta w/e lol
it was ridiculous (if played correctly)
it was ridiculous (if played correctly)
Witchblade
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Originally Posted by Heikofant
yep, everytime sth happens in PvP, it gets fixed inbetween several hours.
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X Tigercat X
man too soon it was fun messing around w/.
Shadow Kurd
Havent played GW in 3 days so maybe someone can enlighten me about this "bug"
Shadow Kurd
Nevermind i found it:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:N/...rvor_Doomspike
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:N/...rvor_Doomspike
MisterB
angmar_nite
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Originally Posted by Abe Grey
I am quite sick of pvp people crying about inbalanced skills. Everytime someone thinks something is imbalanced they cry like 2 year olds. Try working out a new build instead of bitching about imbalanced skills. Leave things alone for the over 90% of the people who play pve. pvp losers.
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I can understand that 2000 life stealing in 2 seconds is imba.
explodemyheart
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Originally Posted by jinzo7
fking pvpers ruining my farming builds again
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Arkantos
Everyone whining about how PvPers ruined whatever for you, please stop being so ignorant. Bottom line is, the skills were bugged, they should have been fixed, and they were. Stop whining about how you can no longer use a bugged skill to farm.
dwchang
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Originally Posted by Abe Grey
I am quite sick of pvp people crying about inbalanced skills. Everytime someone thinks something is imbalanced they cry like 2 year olds. Try working out a new build instead of bitching about imbalanced skills. Leave things alone for the over 90% of the people who play pve. pvp losers.
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upier
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Originally Posted by A.Net
Bug Fixes
Assassin Shadow Walk: this skill now completely prevents the casting of enchantments. Previously the enchantment would fail immediately after activation, causing the caster to lose Energy. |
Woo-hoo! We don't lose energy now!
Go girl!
Ohh and it's a good thing I didn't dash off yet! Man - this will be either locked and gone from the first page, or deleted or edited and it would be a shame to miss some of the brilliant minds posting here!
Once again - go girl!
Darkobra
Ok. Yet another thing I missed because I don't fiddle around looking for bugs. Can someone fill me in?
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Darkobra
Ok. Yet another thing I missed because I don't fiddle around looking for bugs. Can someone fill me in?
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Tarun
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Originally Posted by upier
I do LOVE how it's explained as if the skill is MUCH better now!
Woo-hoo! We don't lose energy now! Go girl! Ohh and it's a good thing I didn't dash off yet! Man - this will be either locked and gone from the first page, or deleted or edited and it would be a shame to miss some of the brilliant minds posting here! Once again - go girl! |
upier
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Originally Posted by Tarun
Any spell that is canceled by the player should not take energy. They haven't grasped that concept yet.
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It would seriously mess up a lot of things - so the current system makes MUCH more sense.
Heikofant
well actually, it wasn't a bug.
It was an imbalanced Skill-Combo.
But all the Skills worked like they should
It was an imbalanced Skill-Combo.
But all the Skills worked like they should
Dr Strangelove
You people cannot possibly think the ability to instagib anything was balanced. I suppose signet of might was also an uncalled for nerf?
Nevin
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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd
Nevermind i found it:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:N/...rvor_Doomspike |
BlackSephir
Wow, AN fixes obvious bug/exploit and retards flame pvp players.
Evolution, what have you done?
Now I know where I don't want to go on my holidays.
Evolution, what have you done?
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angmar_nite
Wait... WTB your protection against 1kdps lifesteal.
And how do you get 250 damage every 1.33 seconds to 1000 damage every second???
And how do you get 250 damage every 1.33 seconds to 1000 damage every second???
ProgTes
Aw man, I was having SO much fun with this at the master of damage, and later in UW 
I understand why it's fixed, thumbs up for Izzy for not letting this last longer in the game
And, for once, Mark of Protection was meta! Woop woop!
And, for once, Mark of Protection was meta! Woop woop!
Redfeather1975
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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd
Nevermind i found it:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:N/...rvor_Doomspike |
enter_the_zone
I'm actually coming down on the side of the PvPers here, which is unusual.
But seriously, that combo was WAY imba.
Besides, the absolute fastest way to make any money in GW now is HFFF.
But seriously, that combo was WAY imba.
Besides, the absolute fastest way to make any money in GW now is HFFF.
StormDragonZ
On-topic: One of my friends might be glad to know about Dark Aura.
RedNova88
Exploiting bugged skill in PvP = *queue music- We Are The Champions*
In other words people get upset after these sorts of things because they're most likely the people that went around exploiting the bug in the first place and want the exploit to stay so that they can continue to use it and feel godlike.
In other words people get upset after these sorts of things because they're most likely the people that went around exploiting the bug in the first place and want the exploit to stay so that they can continue to use it and feel godlike.
Skyy High
LOL. Brilliant whoever thought up that combo, but yeah, needed to be nerfed. Stuff like this is proof positive that there's no chance this game could ever be released completely balanced; how do you expect ANet to catch stuff like this before it happens?
I Is Special
Does anyone know how long this worked before it got noticed?
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by I Is Special
Does anyone know how long this worked before it got noticed?
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Kay84
Pretty fast update then
Darkobra
Normally I'm the first to say "Stop saying things are overpowered and find some counters", but after learning about this? Yeah. This WAS a needed nerf. Wish I could have seen it in action, though.
DreamWind
I resisted speaking about this build until it got rampant throughout the game and nerfed, but now that it has I can shoot.
This build was beyond broken. It didn't belong in the game period. 800+ dps bug did not belong in the game. Instawiping teams in TA and HA did not belong in the game. I'm just glad I got to have fun with it before it died. =p
The thing that makes me laugh most is some "experts" before this nerf claiming that it was not OP, and that you could deal with it because it was counterable by enchant removal blah blah. All of those people are idiots and I will never listen to them about anything relevant ever again.
This build was beyond broken. It didn't belong in the game period. 800+ dps bug did not belong in the game. Instawiping teams in TA and HA did not belong in the game. I'm just glad I got to have fun with it before it died. =p
The thing that makes me laugh most is some "experts" before this nerf claiming that it was not OP, and that you could deal with it because it was counterable by enchant removal blah blah. All of those people are idiots and I will never listen to them about anything relevant ever again.
Arkantos
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Lykan
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Originally Posted by bel unbreakable
fact is all those what ever way builds are thought up and used or abused by the pvp crowd not pve
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Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by flubber
anyone who gives credit to the devs(for finding this out) should stop complaining and be ignored.
they had no clue until it hit Pee-vee-Pee. |
Wild Karrde
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Originally Posted by jinzo7
fking pvpers ruining my farming builds again
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and the PvE FARMERS (not players cause causal players just go about blowing shit up after nerfs cause it doenst hurt them cause they adapt) say its the PvPers that always whine.
It goes mostly like this:
>skill/combo becomes abused in PvE/PvP
>PvPers come to devs or guru etc and say its imbalanced
>Other PvPers agree "yeah its too powerful", "I agree Its overpowered when there's no way to prot/stop it from owning you"
>Anet checks it out and sees its too powerful
>Anet nerfs the skill/skills (albeit they dont always do it the right way)
>PvE FARMERS come to guru to whine about PvPers nerfing thier god mode combos, cause farmers dont know how to adapt. Rest of PvE community is fine and goes on smashing enemies faces in.
>PvE Farmer whine fest becomes flame fest because farmers are too ignorant to see straight.
>Thread closed or abandoned cause neither side wins because of farmers inability to think, after all how much do you have to think to button mash what your told to by the pvxwiki farm builds
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by Wild Karrde
and the PvE FARMERS (not players cause causal players just go about blowing shit up after nerfs cause it doenst hurt them cause they adapt) say its the PvPers that always whine.
It goes mostly like this: >skill/combo becomes abused in PvE/PvP >PvPers come to devs or guru etc and say its imbalanced >Other PvPers agree "yeah its too powerful", "I agree Its overpowered when there's no way to prot/stop it from owning you" >PvPers ignore the numerous counters to the build in question, because it's easier to whine. >Anet checks it out and sees its too powerful >Anet nerfs the skill/skills (albeit they dont always do it the right way) >PvE FARMERS come to guru to whine about PvPers nerfing thier god mode combos, cause farmers dont know how to adapt. Rest of PvE community is fine and goes on smashing enemies faces in. >PvE Farmer whine fest becomes flame fest because farmers are too ignorant to see straight. >Thread closed or abandoned cause neither side wins because of farmers inability to think, after all how much do you have to think to button mash what your told to by the pvxwiki farm builds |
Avarre
Counterable is not the same as balanced.
You cannot afford to bring hard counters to every gimmick or overpowered combination because it gimps you against everything else. You don't have the bar space, and you don't know what you're going up against.
Every gimmick is counterable. Their power is in hoping the opponent does not have the specific counter necessary for that gimmick. Supporting overpowered builds and hard counters turns the game into rock-paper-scissors which is even more retarded.
In conclusion, unless you PvP, you don't get to talk about PvP balance. Continuing to derail with false, noncontributing opinions like 'omg just lern 2 counter' and trolling will result in the thread being locked and bans going out.
You cannot afford to bring hard counters to every gimmick or overpowered combination because it gimps you against everything else. You don't have the bar space, and you don't know what you're going up against.
Every gimmick is counterable. Their power is in hoping the opponent does not have the specific counter necessary for that gimmick. Supporting overpowered builds and hard counters turns the game into rock-paper-scissors which is even more retarded.
In conclusion, unless you PvP, you don't get to talk about PvP balance. Continuing to derail with false, noncontributing opinions like 'omg just lern 2 counter' and trolling will result in the thread being locked and bans going out.