Does anyone else think drop rates of everything in FOW/UW should be lowered?

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

We have so many minutes of favor that pugs are going into FOW/UW literally every second. Trust me soon ecto and rare drops will be merch crap (not like they already aren't.)
Sure, I am all up for more people being able to afford obsidian, but the idea of ecto being under 1k gives me a shudder, and it will be. Ecto is the best judge of the economy and if it is low the ecomy is low. Preferably I would like a few days with no drops in UW because people will be buying ecto and shard from people and material traders rather than farming it.
Your thoughts.

P.S-I know that this is never going to happen, just want your thoughts.

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

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No, cheaper ecto's/shards makes me happy. Still wouldnt buy them until they're 100g/ea though :P

Lem

Lem

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earth

Zealots Of Shiverpeak

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Fortunately there is a large ecto/shard "gold" sink in the form of obsidian armor and more recently chaos gloves. Which helps to stabilise.

IMO they need to make it one minute of favour earned for each max title.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

2-3k ecto by the end of the year?

Possible.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAD IDEA!!!!

I get shit drops as it is now, do not decrease drop rates!

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

yay decrease drop rates of ectos

Twin Blade Warriror

Twin Blade Warriror

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

I was in a guild by myself with 2 of my other accounts..but im banned now

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yeah that would be nice...makes it harder as usual to get obsidian armor..would be nice to have everything back to "normal" as it should be ^^
because of ursan everyone is richer then ever

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Ectos droped to 5K when the loot nerf was introduced, largely as ecto farming became the only game in town for most players. We have had a year of that and ectos are still 5K, we have had global favor for a long time and ectos are still 5K.

So where is the evidence that ectos will become merchant trash? There isn't any, not one jot. Sure a lot of the other stuff is cheaper now, they are very old skins, it happens to all skins, you could cut the drop rates and it wouldn't make a difference to their price, the demand isn't there as it used to be.

What they need to do is make other elite areas more open and accessible, not attempt to kill one of the more popular ones.

Hodgie

Hodgie

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Join Date: Nov 2006

On A Chair

Rise Of Corruption

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I dnt think they should be lowered but if you are that concerned, maybe change the requirments to enter, im not sure how, but like maybe instead of ToA etc. should be moved to later in each game so newer characters cant go in UW and FoW as they please. I'm actually not that bothered if the prices drop, jsut means cheaper FoW armour and some of the FoW armour just doesnt look good enough for the price you are paying anyway lol.

Btw, when a title is earned how much does the favour go up by?

roshanabey2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

[lion]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by JONO51
No, cheaper ecto's/shards makes me happy. Still wouldnt buy them until they're 100g/ea though :P
But people farm ecto for the money not the armour, ecto prices are the judge of the economy, it is best not at 15k or 100g but at 5k-7k. more 'middle class' people with 'middle class' money.

ernestosilva

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

Braga, Portugal

OdHL

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No, drops are good has they are, 5k ectos is good, even if it lower a bit to like 3k I don't bother.

Buddhaofwar

Buddhaofwar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Flying Gophers

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I'm all for decreasing the drop rate. Ectos are getting a bit too cheap atm, and they are kind of the main form of currency among most players. If it keeps lowering, trades will become more of a hassle for anything above 100k. I know someone will just say 'well, use more then' but really, thats only a temporary solution, eventually it would reach the point where there is actually a cap on how much something can be, simply because of low ecto prices, and the trade window cap.

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
We have so many minutes of favor that pugs are going into FOW/UW literally every second. Trust me soon ecto and rare drops will be merch crap (not like they already aren't.)
Sure, I am all up for more people being able to afford obsidian, but the idea of ecto being under 1k gives me a shudder, and it will be. Ecto is the best judge of the economy and if it is low the ecomy is low. Preferably I would like a few days with no drops in UW because people will be buying ecto and shard from people and material traders rather than farming it.
Your thoughts.

P.S-I know that this is never going to happen, just want your thoughts.
Sheezzh I always find treads like this where people are "corncerned" about the economy. How much money do you have OP?

I believe that you are trying to protect what you have already. I been doing FOW and UW since the begining of the game and right now, FOW even in hard mode gives you CRAP Drops. I think I get better drops in NM.

Now asking to have no drops at all because you are afraid of the economy?

Man the economy has been in a stand still for a while now. The problem is not the shards, or the ectos but the Ambraces.

Those people who where able to get "away" with stacks of them. 100k + 15 ectos for one.

So please, stop sharing these ideas of "NO DROPS".

Ectos the same way, you get like 1 for every 5 runs. 2 if you are lucky. What rate drop do you prefer??? 1 every 10??

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Let's blame Ursan

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
We have so many minutes of favor that pugs are going into FOW/UW literally every second. Trust me soon ecto and rare drops will be merch crap (not like they already aren't.)
Sure, I am all up for more people being able to afford obsidian, but the idea of ecto being under 1k gives me a shudder, and it will be. Ecto is the best judge of the economy and if it is low the ecomy is low. Preferably I would like a few days with no drops in UW because people will be buying ecto and shard from people and material traders rather than farming it.
Your thoughts.

P.S-I know that this is never going to happen, just want your thoughts.
Uhm.. ectos and shards are at a steady price for a long time now, and good as it is atm.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
Let's blame Ursan
Good idea. NERF URSAN COZ ITS LAME OMFG!4!4!!!!4

Oh and if I'm already here.. Lets talk about PvP>PvE subject. pverz are scrubs

jimmywho

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fay Vert
Ectos droped to 5K when the loot nerf was introduced, largely as ecto farming became the only game in town for most players. We have had a year of that and ectos are still 5K, we have had global favor for a long time and ectos are still 5K.

So where is the evidence that ectos will become merchant trash? There isn't any, not one jot. Sure a lot of the other stuff is cheaper now, they are very old skins, it happens to all skins, you could cut the drop rates and it wouldn't make a difference to their price, the demand isn't there as it used to be.

What they need to do is make other elite areas more open and accessible, not attempt to kill one of the more popular ones.
couldn't of stated it any better

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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I bet all that vote yes to the 'remove lootscaling' thread agree with that, XD.

If they added inscriptions there, making rare skins have reduced drops rates may work, but as things are right know, the drops ares are just fine. And the ecto drop rate is quite enough, considering how much people like those horrible chaos gloves.

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

no.
its fine as it is.
8-10k ectos is pointless at this time of the life line of the game.

HuntMaster Avatar

HuntMaster Avatar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Around

Pillar's of Earth [ROCK]

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No, I hope nothing changes, Because after i finish GWEN I am going to build my monk and my ele so i can farm fow/uw and get to experience it. If they nerf the drops and make it even harder then it sucks for those of us who have not been farming there for years. Leave the drops alone so its fair for all.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

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djeez kid
i'm already getting purples constantly dropped from HM chests and you wanna nerf the one or two obsi shards i get for each run i do?
why don't you nerf my new sinspiker while you're at it so i'm totally screwed -.-

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAD IDEA!!!!

I get shit drops as it is now, do not decrease drop rates!
Oh do I feel your pain

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

I love all these threads when long-time farmers want to stop new farmers. I just wish i had an ecto everytime one was posted.

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I love all these threads when long-time farmers want to stop new farmers. I just wish i had an ecto everytime one was posted.
Well said, its greddy I say.

They want to maintain the "status quo"

Not let any newbies in.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

If so many ectos are droping why is it I have not seen anyone selling any for the past couple of days at least in LA, TOA or Kamadan. Both euro and Am districts.

As for the OP's idea NO that would be a very bad idea.

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

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Uh...wut?

Oh yeah, I remembered. NO.

/notsigned

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by roshanabey2
We have so many minutes of favor that pugs are going into FOW/UW literally every second. Trust me soon ecto and rare drops will be merch crap (not like they already aren't.)
Sure, I am all up for more people being able to afford obsidian, but the idea of ecto being under 1k gives me a shudder, and it will be. Ecto is the best judge of the economy and if it is low the ecomy is low. Preferably I would like a few days with no drops in UW because people will be buying ecto and shard from people and material traders rather than farming it.
Your thoughts.

P.S-I know that this is never going to happen, just want your thoughts.
We have had a full month of favor already and i didnt notice any big drops in the ecto price, its fine the way it is now.

And that ursan takes the cake at farming is just lame but then if i would go into that id have a 3 page long piece of text with all my rants on how i feel about ursan, not worth my time and no one would read it because it'll be to much to read.

Master Knightfall

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
yay decrease drop rates of ectos
YAY I agree also, decrease the drop rates of EVERYTHING so casuals will HAVE to buy from ME and I can get RICHER and RICHER and they can suffer and suffer. lol What a stupid idea by the OP. lol

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I love all these threads when long-time farmers want to stop new farmers.
Yeah really, WTF is up with all the greedy people all of a sudden, they just seem to sprout so fast, trying to keep everything to a certain elite... ectos and shards are relatively stable and more affordable now. Keep it this way IMHO.

Random Scrubinator

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Knightfall
YAY I agree also, decrease the drop rates of EVERYTHING so casuals will HAVE to buy from ME and I can get RICHER and RICHER and they can suffer and suffer. lol What a stupid idea by the OP. lol
Because "casuals" need ectos and the rich can spend ectos to bribe Prince Rurik and Master Togo to kill themselves whenever a casual player enters a mission

Esan

Esan

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Dpes anyone else think that the trolling rate of trolls should be reduced?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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The amount of ectos/shards dropping in a full UW/FoW clear is already quite low. I don't see why you want to make them drop less.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Those areas and their drop rates weren't designed with ridiculously overpowered ursanway+consumables in mind. I totally agree on lowering drop rates for shards, ectos and gold items in hardmode (hm is not hard for imba ursan, nm has close to no gold drops). Lowering those to 50% of current rates would keep things balanced.

But there's a much better solution, just nerf ursan and consumables...

/signed for doing something with pve sucking more than ever, that includes drops getting worthless

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Ectos seem to have an artificial price floor of 4.2k. It has gone below that, but I think that was a glitch. They will never drop below 4,200 gold, so don't freak out.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Yeah i think it should be decreased. IF ppl wouldnt have stacks of ectos now..

MisterB

MisterB

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Yes, please decrease the number of ectos and shards you get by giving them to me. Everyone wins.

The drop rate is fine.

Konig Des Todes

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lem
Fortunately there is a large ecto/shard "gold" sink in the form of obsidian armor and more recently chaos gloves. Which helps to stabilise.

IMO they need to make it one minute of favour earned for each max title.
That ecto sink is good enough to convince me to keep things as is. I hardly farm UW and won't care if prices for ecto go down, it will just make it easier to get 3 armors I want to get .

People complain about the economy of GW, but many of the ideas to "fix" the economy of GW are rather, crappy.

Arduin

Arduin

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Join Date: May 2005

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Not needed, methinks the Ecto price of 4.5-5k and the Shard price of ~2k is here to stay.

Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

If the reason for this wasn't so much "Wah, I can't play the game normally and get money, I need to farm EnS and need MOAR money... MOAR MUAHAHAHA!" I may be compelled to care.

As it's not, no... the drop rate is fine. And really, since people -- I'm guessing -- want the price to go up so they can sell what they farm... if the drop rate goes lower than it is now (which is total shit), what would you have to sell, eh?

>_<

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
2-3k ecto by the end of the year?

Possible.
Now the hard part will sticking around long enough to enjoy that!

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

what should be lowered is the amount of times(account based) you're allowed to enter said areas. not the drop rates.

like say, no more than...8 times per 12 hours? (now that we have perma favor). it'll create a nice uproar for the dual/solo'ers.

I mean..I can only farm 2k faction a day...