I remember when a sup rune of vigor was worth 48k

good times.


it occured to me a little while ago that the price dropped, its now only 18k.

anyone else remember an item that used to be alot, and now its much, much cheaper?

sup vigor was 12k like 4 months ago...

Remember times when sup absorbtion was 40k+?

Remember when creating a 55 costed you 300k, and I even remember selling a sup absorbtion 95k

Errr I remember when Sup Vigor and Abs used to be up around 100k. And Ecto was at 19k, black dye was over 20k I believe. So your point be?

Remember when you needed to farm for refund points to change your attributes? Aaaahh...good times.

NOT.

I remember when Sup Absorption was 100k cause everyone thought it stacked, as well as all monk superior runes were worth 60K easy and this is from the trader.

Yeah, I remember when Superior vigor and abs were 100k each.

*groan* Those were the worst... if you wanted to try a new build you sure as heck better have enough refund points otherwise you are plum out of luck. So glad when they got rid of that.

QFT. However I can't believe that there are some games that still require you to either use refund points or pay to reset your stats.

i have played since beta but i got a bad memory but im sure i was there.

i might have deleted it from my mind since i keep the 100k+ sup vigor in my storage till it worth crap again.

Who cares what you remember, what was the point of this thread. And i remember when it was 100k too...

I remember when Sup Absorption/Vigor was worth 100k, and ectos got near 20k. Heck, I remember when there weren't even any Rune/Rare Mat traders.

Yea, I still remember the days when I went broke making my 55. Runes were so expensive.. now you can build a full 55 for less than half of what one of the monk runes used to cost. Such is life.

The removal of those atrocities was one of the best updates ever.

yer farming these payed for my first obsidian set though ecto was 4 times what it is now

I remember when all Sup. runes could be sold for at least 10k and their were no traders. I remember when amber went for several k each. I remember when celestial sigils sold for 100k+. I remember when having a max weapon with any stats mods could sell for 5k+ even purples. And normal gladius/falchion/spathas with 15^50 could sell for up to 60-80k+ even at req. 10. I remember when red and blue dyes sold for as much as whites do now. I remember when lower lvl players actually bought low lvl weapons instead of the merch getting so much food. I remember when people actually bought armor in Yaks Bend instead of just getting run to LA or even Droks.

But what has stayed basically the same price ever since I can remember is black dye. It's always been somewhere between 5-10k. I wonder why it hasn't fluxuated much.

Unid'ed gold Armor - 35k each if lucky.
Sigils - 100k each.

Are you joking? They should have never been over 10k.
Current price is already way too much.

Why not going back to the skill gem system? Geez...

yeah i remember this too, good times those were before they added rune traders and all this other stuff

I remember when they borked the ettins so they'd drop nothing but gold armors....

Everything was so expensive back then I remember it all, can't say I enjoyed buying those certain pink globs everyone wants for 9-10k each

I remember when having sex with a woman was worth 48k.





Or was that just me?

Good times for some - bad times for others... Like everything it depends on your particular point of view.

aaaah yes.... i remember when sup vigor / absorption were 100k a pop 25+ months ago. good times. ^^

~LeNa~

I remember when you couldn't make one because the trader was always out of sup monk runes. You had to camp the trader clicking request quote and hope you were the first one to snatch up the rune.

I remember when people were selling Expert Salvage Kits and Runes of Holding to noobs in Ascalon City for like 5K and you could easily make 500g for each fur square and steel ingot you could sell. Hell, I remember back before the FoW armor crafter existed and mostly everyone just sold their ectos to the merchant because they had no use in the game.

Lately I have actually begun to ponder the concept of putting superior vigor runes on my non-main characters. Le gasp!

I can remember when even the most crappy non max Fiery Dragon Sword was 10k

I remember when people realized that low numbers of gold pieces for stuff isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Don't people realize that if the price of an item drops, but the money you make in an hour drops too, nothing really changed... With things like lootscaling and nerfs to everything in the universe, making money has become harder than it once was. Now, that has caused highly priced items' prices to fall. The value of the item has not dropped... the value of a gold piece has risen substantially.

You could make the same argument by saying, "Anyone remember back when processors were running at 3.6-3.8GHz... god... now the fastest ones out there are only 2.6-3.0GHz... shucks... those were good times..." I hope this comparison doesn't go over anyone's head in here...

lol i remember that people evne bought them of the trader to sell them for a higher price than the trader asks for it.

I remember when people actually bothered making teams... And it was needed for missions like THK :P

Also remember the Minion Master with options to make unlimited minions, and the bots in Augury intenational district selling all sorts of gold, rare weapons for 1K each.

Good times...

I remember the time when you had to kill bosses for skill gems to learn new skills.
Or when you had to use the SoC *while* the boss was using the elite skill to cap it.
Or when Rurik looked like a Spartan.
Or when Confessor Dorian's name was Confessor Schessler.
Or when Lion's Arch was still Hakewood.

Ah, good times. Or not.

i bought the razorstone for 60k. rip off!

It's refreshing to see a farmer who's not complaining about the state of the game for once.

Oh, wait...

It's much better now when everyone can afford it.

Yeah that too... had to camp trade channel in Droknar/LA dis1 to get one you paid ridiculous prices

I remember when sorrow furnace went out, with all the green farming thing and the holy trinity ruling over it.

Superior Absorption was great back then because its was -3 dmg to EVERYTHING not just physical damage. Having it on a war makes it a better tank back then

I remember when 100k actually meant something.

I don't understand... if everything cost so damn much back then, how was 100k gold of a higher value at the time? If 100k bought you 2 vigor runes then and buys you 5 now, how was 100k worth more then? If anything, 100k is worth more now since it translates into more stuff... Do you guys have any concept of economics?

If the gross monetary cost of an item is very high, that means the value of a single unit of money is very low. Look at the Yen. In Japan, a typical car costs hundreds of thousands of Yen because the VALUE of a single Yen is very low. If all of the sudden prices, in Yen, started dropping for autos in Japan, that would be a sign that the VALUE of the Yen was rising and people would be happy.

The REAL question is, would you rather have hundreds of thousands or even millions of gold pieces and have items that are worth hundreds of thousands of gold... OR... would you rather have items worth tens of thousands of gold and have many people with far less money?

The problem people have is that people who had a shit-ton of gold back in the day, when gold was very low value (before lootscaling and before many nerfs to farming), didn't spend it and now have a shit-ton of gold that is worth a lot more and can buy anything they want. There has been MASSIVE deflation in GW and its causing people to become alarmed because in the real world, people are only used to inflation, where prices for items only go up and people get poorer unless money becomes easier to come by. In the GW world, money was VERY easy to come by and then became even more valueable than it already was causing everyone to become rich.

What you people are actually clamoring for is INFLATION which is the opposite of what any economist wants. Deflation is nearly always a good thing because it means a single unit of money can buy more stuff. Now that everyone can buy more stuff, its making the super-rich feel less uber because many people can buy their uber stuff.

In the end, the only people who are really suffering are the super rich, and they're only suffering because there are very few items in the game that are unobtainable. They have no way to show off their massive money.

On the other hand, the normal gamers with normal amounts of money are now able to afford some cool stuff and love the current economy.

What it boils down to is that the uber-rich are pissed that their e-peen shrunk.

If RMT'ers or Ursan or any other bane of the uber-rich was really affecting the economy, prices for items would skyrocket because there would be so much more gold introduced into the market that the value of the gold would fall.

Someone pointed out in another thread that a great way to see what the true value of GW gold is doing is to keep track of how much US $$ the RMT's are selling gold for. If you've kept track, you'd see that 100k GW gold that was only $12 a month ago is now approximately $20. This CLEARLY shows that the value of a single gold is rising and everyone with GOLD is getting richer. The only people who are getting poorer are people who invested a ton of their gold in ITEMS like ectos or armbraces or whatever. Since those items' prices fell, if you paid 100k for 10 ectos back then, didn't sell them, you now have 10 ectos worth only ~47k. That is what deflation does... it makes the worth of a unit of money go up and the worth of an item go down.

Basically, people just made poor investments and are crying about it.

Those were the days..... lol

I remember thinking why spend so much money on 9 more hp when major vigor was sooo much cheaper

oh yeah and sigils at 100k

also you could sell unid runes for tons before balth faction so peeps could get pvp unlocks.