Attack Speed Increase Skills?

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bisurge
Academy Page
#1
How come nobody uses attack speed increase skills? (Frenzy, flurry, lightning reflexes, tiger's fury, those are only the ones I know of)
FlamingMetroid
FlamingMetroid
Jungle Guide
#2
Assassins- Crit Agility
Wars- Flail, Frenzy
Rangers- dont need them
Dervs- to overpowered as it is to be given a decent maintainable one
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2048
Academy Page
#3
Uh... I'm not sure where you've been for the past 3 years, but those have all been essential parts of a GOOD build, as far as I know, so....
uhh yeah
not much else to say
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bisurge
Academy Page
#4
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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid
Assassins- Crit Agility
Wars- Flail, Frenzy
Rangers- dont need them
Dervs- to overpowered as it is to be given a decent maintainable one
Hmm I was talking about Prophecies but okay...

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Originally Posted by 2048
Uh... I'm not sure where you've been for the past 3 years, but those have all been essential parts of a GOOD build, as far as I know, so....
uhh yeah
not much else to say
Then I have not seen many good builds.
Alex the Great
Alex the Great
Jungle Guide
#5
what are you talking about!!!!!

IF you don't use them you officially suck!!!!!!

Frenzy and flail are common, and i use flurry on a sin
Macks Mistress
Macks Mistress
Academy Page
#6
I use them...and pretty much everyone I play with uses them.

Are you pugging alot? If so...there is your answer.
Mesmer in Need
Mesmer in Need
Forge Runner
#7
People do use the, alot. I have no idea where you came up with that idea. Alot of low levels may not have access to these yet, however. An IAS (increase attack speed) can greatly increase a melee or ranged attacker greatly.
RavagerOfDreams
RavagerOfDreams
Desert Nomad
#8
most melee classes do use a ias
dunno where you been looking all the melee people i kno use a ias :S

wars - flail, frenzy
sins- critical agility, tigers stance, flurry
dervs- heart of fury, pious fury
rangers - rapid fire (not used much cuz rangers don't need a ias)
paras- agressive refrain
shoyon456
shoyon456
Desert Nomad
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid
Wars- Flail, Frenzy
Dervs- to overpowered as it is to be given a decent maintainable one
Um, excuse me? Frenzy can be used by anything X/W and many many dervs run flail in pvp anyways.

And on the derv topic, yeah pious fury is not a greatly maintained IAS, but Heart of Fury is routinely used in dervish builds

In short, almost all classes that rely on melee damage will have some form of IAS, whether in pvp or pve
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#10
No IAS on your common Warrior = bad Warrior.
No IAS on your common Dervish = bad Dervish.
No IAS on your common Paragon = bad Paragon. (And Paragons get the most imba IAS in the game...)
Rangers don't need one.

@Shoyon456 -- Frenzy on a non-Warrior is suicidal. And where is this PvP a Dervish is using Flail...?
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bisurge
Academy Page
#11
How about melee rangers like the Berserker's Fury one on the builds directory?
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#12
Melee Rangers are gimmicky, degenerate builds that deserve to be degenerated.
ShadowsRequiem
ShadowsRequiem
Furnace Stoker
#13
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
No IAS on your common Warrior = bad Warrior.
No IAS on your common Dervish = bad Dervish.
No IAS on your common Paragon = bad Paragon. (And Paragons get the most imba IAS in the game...)
Rangers don't need one.

@Shoyon456 -- Frenzy on a non-Warrior is suicidal. And where is this PvP a Dervish is using Flail...?
ummmm maybe its suicidal if you have no clue what you are doing......

even with low Str flail still gives you a solid time.

Berserker stance is trash. Use flail or Frenzy. Bring a cancel stance incase you are taking to much damage
FlamingMetroid
FlamingMetroid
Jungle Guide
#14
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Originally Posted by bisurge
How about melee rangers like the Berserker's Fury one on the builds directory?
no, interrupt people with bows
melee builds like bunny thumper and escape way pop up every now and then, but interruption and pressure is the way to go.
ShadowsRequiem
ShadowsRequiem
Furnace Stoker
#15
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Originally Posted by FlamingMetroid
no, interrupt people with bows
melee builds like bunny thumper and escape way pop up every now and then, but interruption and pressure is the way to go.
Since when is playing a bunny thumper not pressure?
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#16
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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
ummmm maybe its suicidal if you have no clue what you are doing......
Err...no...if the enemy has no clue what they're doing, it's not suicidal.
Being in Frenzy and being under fire is already painful on a Warrior.
ShadowsRequiem
ShadowsRequiem
Furnace Stoker
#17
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Err...no...if the enemy has no clue what they're doing, it's not suicidal.
Being in Frenzy and being under fire is already painful on a Warrior.
So why would you frenzy in the first place if multiple targets are on you?

Thats why people bring a cancel stance. To use it.
FlamingMetroid
FlamingMetroid
Jungle Guide
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Being in Frenzy and being under fire is already painful on a Warrior.
I <3 cancel stances
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Tyla
Emo Goth Italics
#19
What class other than a Warrior are you using it on anyway?
Assassins have Flurry and Tiger Stance for Dagger spikes.
Casters...well, self explanatory.
Dervishs have HoF.
Paragons have AR.
Rangers don't need an IAS unless they're running some shitty gimmick.

Anyone decent will target a non-Warrior in Frenzy as it's beyond an easy kill. Frenzy will be useless on that class at that point.

Oh yeah, at this:
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even with low Str flail still gives you a solid time.
The reason I said that, is because he said PvP. Flail = self snare and only good on Hammers in PvP.
ShadowsRequiem
ShadowsRequiem
Furnace Stoker
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
What class other than a Warrior are you using it on anyway?
Assassins have Flurry and Tiger Stance for Dagger spikes.
Casters...well, self explanatory.
Dervishs have HoF.
Paragons have AR.
Rangers don't need an IAS unless they're running some shitty gimmick.

Anyone decent will target a non-Warrior in Frenzy as it's beyond an easy kill. Frenzy will be useless on that class at that point.

Oh yeah, at this:
The reason I said that, is because he said PvP. Flail = self snare and only good on Hammers in PvP.
not my fault you cant use a cancel stance :P

and dunno what pvp do you not include some sort of snare too? this is just getting silly.

And a/ws used to use frenzy and still can, you just can't be stupid. Though i'll agree flurry works just fine with the armor ignoring dmg.

Also no one said it had to be on PVP