The most disappointing thing in GW.

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

i'm adding in my secret code so no one gets upset because i'm saying it...

NASRU

ok. i'm done.

hint: sdrawkcab

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

People who think that adults are somehow more enjoyable to play with than teenagers. For the most part I hate most other players, but at least teenagers have less of a tendency to be pricks about every damn thing you do, and at least some of them have a sense of humour.

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

Minipets, and how there is absolutely no use whatsoever for them, aside from cosmetic.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

People, obviously.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Age-discriminate adults who stereotype all 14 year olds as being ignorant perverted whiners because they consider RuneScape a good example of a player base.

*cough*myoldPvEguild*cough*

Ursan and loot scaling also.

Osi Ri S

Osi Ri S

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

N/

The most disapointing thing for me is that when i bought GW is was the most unique mmo that i had ever seen. I loved Anets philosophy of skill>grind. The thing that disapoints me is that now the game that i play wasnt the game that i had originally bought.

Now even if i wanted to get into an ursanway group for DoA i cant because it goes something like this...

Me:urs lfg for doa
P1: show norn title
Me:*shows title*
P1: sorry r5 isnt high enough.

I dont have the time nor the patience to mindlessly farm for rep points. So essentially i CANNOT play that part of the game. This is what anet said would NOT happen with their game. I bought GW because i was was under the impression that this WOULDNT happen. Guess i was wrong.

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarun
Minipets, and how there is absolutely no use whatsoever for them, aside from cosmetic.
Doesn't that describe most things in GW?

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Osi Ri S
The most disapointing thing for me is that when i bought GW is was the most unique mmo that i had ever seen. I loved Anets philosophy of skill>grind. The thing that disapoints me is that now the game that i play wasnt the game that i had originally bought.

Now even if i wanted to get into an ursanway group for DoA i cant because it goes something like this...

Me:urs lfg for doa
P1: show norn title
Me:*shows title*
P1: sorry r5 isnt high enough.

I dont have the time nor the patience to mindlessly farm for rep points. So essentially i CANNOT play that part of the game. This is what anet said would NOT happen with their game. I bought GW because i was was under the impression that this WOULDNT happen. Guess i was wrong.
Unfortunately, the players had already decided which professions could and could not go into areas together before Titles came along. I agree that Titles have not helped in that respect though.

sagilltwins

sagilltwins

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Your Mom's House

香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH

A/W

too many S-Ways in HA

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

When i start thinking about the game back in 05-06.........the good times.

Commander Kanen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

[DVDF]

P/

Set team builds for "hard" areas like DoA slavers...
people with stupid builds wars running flesh golem and so on
gw economy
SPAMadan
People who call you a noob for knowing how to do things without dying
People calling paragons gay/weak Para's = godmode !
Obsidian armour + chaos gloves ><
sucking up to Devs/Gaile ... WTF !
closed minded people !

i could rant all day but i will cut it short

palladia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Except a few areas, there aren't enough people to PUG with, especially if you want to do HM stuff.

Alka

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

belgrade

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Frostmaw's end chest "reward"

People bowing to and kissing Gaile's feet(among other things)

minipets

unbalanced mobs in hard mode meant to overwhelm a party rather than offer a decent tactical challenge.

Cheating AI, also augmented in HM.
AND ALSO!!!! PET LEAVE NO CORPSE THAT MAKES ME THINK OF ANET LIKE BUNCH OF RETARDS
IT TOTALY DONT MAkE SENSE!!!! i am very pissed cause of it

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alka
AND ALSO!!!! PET LEAVE NO CORPSE THAT MAKES ME THINK OF ANET LIKE BUNCH OF RETARDS
IT TOTALY DONT MAkE SENSE!!!! i am very pissed cause of it
Because video game are completely logical.

The most annoying thing about GW is the high rate of incompetence. Not idiocy, incompetence, where people refuse to listen to better judgment. It's higher in GW than in any other online game I have played. (including any Xbox Live game and WoW)

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alka
AND ALSO!!!! PET LEAVE NO CORPSE THAT MAKES ME THINK OF ANET LIKE BUNCH OF RETARDS
IT TOTALY DONT MAkE SENSE!!!! i am very pissed cause of it
You don't say

The addition of closed gates (factions) took away some of my GW-pleasure. I just want to roam freely through the country side. As soon as I end up in areas I shouldn't supposed to be yet, I'd get utterly obliberated by those lvl 20+ monsters anyways.

Jumping Is Uselss

Jumping Is Uselss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

-... . .... .. -. -.. / -.-- --- ..-

Most disappointing would have to be Hall of Monuments

vdz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Everything introduced after Prophecies has been a disappointing experience. The game went from really good ---> bad.

[email protected]

[email protected]

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2008

Holland

Mo/E

ursan mentality

oracle.delphi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

ontario, canada

Steel Beasts

E/

lack of storage/no ablility to purchase more...admitedly there would have to be a cap...but come on!
and the fact that just because you've never dopne something int he game before (ex underworld and fow or dungeons) people won't take you in..well most people wont. i know there are some truly horrible pugs out there for this thing, but take a chance!

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

The inability of the heroes to chain KD, unlike enemies.

Abonai Laguna

Abonai Laguna

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Isle of the Dead [CoC] GH

Company Of Corpses [CoC]

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Lootscaling.

Zsig

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Monks

They look stupid
They make no sense concept wise
They are REQUIRED to succeed at the game

oracle.delphi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

ontario, canada

Steel Beasts

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zsig
Monks

They look stupid
They make no sense concept wise
They are REQUIRED to succeed at the game
dude do NOT tick off the monks...they will HURT you lol

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zsig
Monks

They look stupid
They make no sense concept wise
They are REQUIRED to succeed at the game
Okay so what doesn't make sense about monks, conceptwise?
They are the best healers of all the classes, and how does that not make sense? While you're at it, you may as well kill off paragons, a bunch of rit skills, some dervish ones too, even some necro skills (forgive if theres some I didn't mention?) and of course every self-healing skill any class has.

Them looking stupid is all objective. In my opinion they look awesome (not a fan of FoW armor, but still) especially with a good caster sword or a black voltaic and a torm shield and some good armor (Dwarven, Elite Kurzick imo)

But your opinion is valued, thank you

Zsig

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

concept =/= mechanic

There's nothing wrong with the healer role (mechanic).

But the monk in GW is not really a monk (i'm talking about the word).
A monk isn't supposed to heal you, instead he'd make you capable of healing yourself. If you want to put it in game terms, he'd boost your healing skills, making you heal yourself more effectively. Being a monk is about SELF perfection of body and mind, and not other's.
But seriously, i don't want to take this discussion in this direction, as its not appropriate here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taisayacho
Them looking stupid is all objective.
Just start counting the number of monks you see with the same hairstyle. I could say, among the female chars, at least 80% use the same. Which is (for me and for those people) the least stupid looking hair style.

Why do we get to play monks without neck (male), ape like body, and well, stupid , while on the other hand, Mehnlo uses the body type of a ranger? From that you can notice how even Anet thinks they look stupid.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

PvPwise - Massive disadvantage at entry level, necessity for people to steal builds or get steamrolled.

PVE - Neither has a persistently changing world for lvl 20, or player driven intrigue. It's basically not taking advantage of the online format in a way that pushes the fun gameplay envelope.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

The end of Prophecies. Seriously, first time I played through it I was like "Wait, that's it?"

I waited half an hour for something else to happen.

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by IlikeGW
PvPwise - Massive disadvantage at entry level, necessity for people to steal builds or get steamrolled.

PVE - Neither has a persistently changing world for lvl 20, or player driven intrigue. It's basically not taking advantage of the online format in a way that pushes the fun gameplay envelope.
Or player-centric. You're a SIDEKICK. How annoying is that? I do all the damage, the healing, the defense and whatever other thing... but the credit goes to Mehnlo, Kormir, Togo, etc. COME ON! At least in oldschool console RPGs you played as the main characters. So in general, I was highly disappointed by the storylines. Oh and the endings and boss-fights. That makes me miss console games - I liked being stuck for a while on a boss. I don't know why. >_>.

And the community is disappointing. Ties with what I've said in my previous post - the rude and immature a-holes, the scammers, the elitists, the PvE/PvP separation, title/fame requirements made by the community itself...

Ulterion

Ulterion

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2007

defiinitely noyb

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kusandaa
And the community is disappointing. Ties with what I've said in my previous post - the rude and immature a-holes, the scammers, the elitists, the PvE/PvP separation, title/fame requirements made by the community itself...
Good overview! I couldn't agree with you more. I can't help but to view GWars in it's current state as a glass half-empty..

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

R/

I agree with many posts saying that GW has become more and more a "grind" game. Titles are mainly what has driven this I think, because once the PvE game itself is exhausted people turn to prestige, which means maxed titles and expensive stuff. And more maxed titles = another title So people just want to farm points, and faction, and buy stuff (like alcohol and Party Points). I think one big mistake is the r5 requirement on EotN armors which, although yes, it means people have a bit of something to work for, it also adds to the incessant grind culture evolving rapidly. Same thing with Ursan, everyone HAS to go and be r10 to be in the ever more exclusive parties for elite areas, meaning the only way to get there is grind, grind, grind.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

its so funny how people play this game for nearly three years and QQ endlessly on a forum made by fans dedicated to it.

spread the love , i like gw

/thread

salamanca

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Bookhouse boys

R/

In game plot and mechanics, I would say that The factions forced blind partnership missions really turned me off the game for a long time. I walked away from Factions for ovr 8 months just because of that annoyance. It was a hassle in Vizunah to find a group that was coherant and luck into a second group that had any sort of balance. But without it, you could not play 80% of the game.

As for the player base, the following things disappoint me regularly.

-The primary response to any perceived slight being insults and threats. I've been called things in game over clarifying an asking price for dye that I've seen guys get hospitalized for saying in real life. Yet everyone seems to accept this in game. (I can't even type on this forum what I got told to do for asking a player to use the trade channel yesterday)

- Complaints about festival prizes and gifts. It's just supposed to be a little extra for you to enjoy, It was not meant to be a commodity to make you a million gold in a weekend. Take it for what it is.

- The "you must have build X" mentality. I don't care which build it is, there is more than one way to play every part of this game. What works for one may not for another and we all find our own way of doing things. If you worry about you and let me worry about me, we will get things done.

- Being scolded for my build, gear, etc. after accepting a blind invite with no explanation of what we were doing. This one happens more when I'm playing my monk. I pop into town to merch the inventory and there is an invite and the only explanation I get is "accept" Then we are out the door and into a mission or quest and I get yelled at for having my solo smite farm loaded. Nobody asked if I was set to protect or heal but I'm a noob for not having the wiki build for monks.

THE FOLLOWING THINGS HAVE THRILLED ME:

-THK Monks strike. hilarious event.

- courtesy and friendship in certain districts of LA during wintersday. particularly folks sharing spots for gift drops when it was a bit too crowded.

- A player I helped out 2 years ago by giving him some max gear, mats and cash for his first post armor. Same player randomly ran into me on a different account in pre about 7 months ago and offered me a ton of stuff because someone had done it for him (he had no idea who I was at the time and had been doing this for lots of folks)

- the people that have begun doing things in towns and outposts that don't have anything to do with game play but add to the cultural experience of being in the game. I've run into a couple of storytellers, a runner that actually does a "guided tour" and describes the terrain features as they go, the various guilds that sponsor districts for new years, the esoteric collectors of stuff that has no real use (like red flowers), and even a comedy act.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taisayacho
Okay so what doesn't make sense about monks, conceptwise?
The problem is that Wizards of the Coast has already firmly established that a monk is a martial artist who strives for self-perfection. The correct term for the Gw class would be Cleric.

Xx_Sorin_xX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zsig
concept =/= mechanic

There's nothing wrong with the healer role (mechanic).

But the monk in GW is not really a monk (i'm talking about the word).
A monk isn't supposed to heal you, instead he'd make you capable of healing yourself. If you want to put it in game terms, he'd boost your healing skills, making you heal yourself more effectively. Being a monk is about SELF perfection of body and mind, and not other's.
i lol'd

seriously your way overthinking this one bud.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

I dont need a single monk to succeed in GW. I prefer not to use them now wherever possible (mostly in cantha) for the fun off it. On HM yes.

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zsig
Monks

They look stupid
They make no sense concept wise
They are REQUIRED to succeed at the game
LOL.......... you really believe that? or you just QQing for Fun, because that's the Dumbest thing ever, don't try and compare GW to another game, because if you don't like the Concept of a monk then QUIT........ don't waste your time typing on this forum.

I Dont Do Coke

I Dont Do Coke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Japan

Playerbase. There are a ton of things I dislike, but nothing makes me /quit like the players.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Dont Do Coke
Playerbase. There are a ton of things I dislike, but nothing makes me /quit like the players.
Agreed! Remove the other players, gimmeh 7 heroes, make PVE purely offline and solo!

That would be too good to be true.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

I just tried the WoW trial. Having done so I suddenly realize how good we have it in Guild Wars.

I Dont Do Coke

I Dont Do Coke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Japan

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Agreed! Remove the other players, gimmeh 7 heroes, make PVE purely offline and solo!

That would be too good to be true.
That would be!