Escape
Proposed change: For 1...7 seconds, you move 33% faster and have a 75% chance to block attacks. Escape ends if you attack.
Reasoning: It looks very ripe for a nerf right now, and I'd rather have it kill this than this.
Nerf Escape
Shayne Hawke
street peddler
pious assault
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by street peddler
pious assault
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If that's the real issue, I'm fine with Escape staying as it is.
street peddler
make pious assult require an enchantment to be removed to apply the dw imo
Killed u man
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Originally Posted by street peddler
make pious assult require an enchantment to be removed to apply the dw imo
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blakecraw
/signed
to "escape" implies running away, not smashing the crap out of stuff with a farming implement
to "escape" implies running away, not smashing the crap out of stuff with a farming implement
Master Ketsu
Wow how retarded. So make it an elite that is worse then the non elite natural stride ? Escape is nowhere near problematic.
Maybe if you actually looked at R/D way you would realize that they only deal decent damage when you try to kite them due to crits. Other then that, the damage is feeble. The only problem with R/D way is that pious does not require an enchantment for the deep wound. If you think Escape is the problem behind that build, you fail @ game balance.
Stop crying for nerfs on whatever happens to be the meta. Cry for nerfs when it's actually overpowered.
If you keep nerfing the current meta you end up with worthless skills in the next meta.
Maybe if you actually looked at R/D way you would realize that they only deal decent damage when you try to kite them due to crits. Other then that, the damage is feeble. The only problem with R/D way is that pious does not require an enchantment for the deep wound. If you think Escape is the problem behind that build, you fail @ game balance.
Stop crying for nerfs on whatever happens to be the meta. Cry for nerfs when it's actually overpowered.
If you keep nerfing the current meta you end up with worthless skills in the next meta.
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Escape isn't that good anyways. Its in the SWAY meta just because the R/Ds don't have any better elite options (no dervish skills besides sycle mastery, and those all apply deep wound, defeating the purpose of pious).
Escape isn't that good anyways. Its in the SWAY meta just because the R/Ds don't have any better elite options (no dervish skills besides sycle mastery, and those all apply deep wound, defeating the purpose of pious).
It's A Me
/notsigned
Never been a problem until R/D and even though im no HA expert ive played enough to realise that Sway is not overpowered and can be steamrolled pretty easy.
Never been a problem until R/D and even though im no HA expert ive played enough to realise that Sway is not overpowered and can be steamrolled pretty easy.
the Puppeteer
omg I got owned by R/Ds too - lets nerf em
RyXXed
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
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This should be a lot better.
Bront
I point you to Natural Stride
Almost identical skill, just 50% block rate instead of 75%.
Escape is an Elite, and looks fine. Natural Stride looks maybe a little cheep compared to other skills that either only run or only block.
Almost identical skill, just 50% block rate instead of 75%.
Escape is an Elite, and looks fine. Natural Stride looks maybe a little cheep compared to other skills that either only run or only block.
The Red Messenger
What about the rangers that use bows?
sometimes you gotta use pindown and still escape...
ranger already suffered enough nerfage with sundering/penetraging shot, power shot, and precision shot anyway
sometimes you gotta use pindown and still escape...
ranger already suffered enough nerfage with sundering/penetraging shot, power shot, and precision shot anyway
tehshadowninjar
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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger
What about the rangers that use bows?
sometimes you gotta use pindown and still escape... ranger already suffered enough nerfage with sundering/penetraging shot, power shot, and precision shot anyway |
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Div
Stop nerfing my PvE skills.
~ Dan ~
/signed, just so Divine's running build is ruined.
MithranArkanere
It is an elite. It only affects attacks and can be removed.
You cannot come here and complain about a skill anytime you cannot kill someone in RA because you had a horrible build.
You cannot come here and complain about a skill anytime you cannot kill someone in RA because you had a horrible build.
legion_rat
/notsigned
To many ways to stop this other than NERF. Stupid PvP, "Lets screw up PvE even more because we are to lame to counter a build."
Escape (elite stance)
Full: For 1...7 seconds, you move 33% faster and have a 75% chance to block attacks.
Its a stance, end it, kill the R/D, have a nice day.
Good day sir.
~the rat~
To many ways to stop this other than NERF. Stupid PvP, "Lets screw up PvE even more because we are to lame to counter a build."
Escape (elite stance)
Full: For 1...7 seconds, you move 33% faster and have a 75% chance to block attacks.
Its a stance, end it, kill the R/D, have a nice day.
Good day sir.
~the rat~
BlackSephir
Ends if you hit with scythe attack.
LOOLOL im so smort
LOOLOL im so smort
Ctb
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| omg I got owned by R/Ds too - lets nerf em |
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| Stop nerfing my PvE skills. |
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| You cannot come here and complain about a skill anytime you cannot kill someone in RA because you had a horrible build. |
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| Stupid PvP, "Lets screw up PvE even more because we are to lame to counter a build." |
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Ends if you hit with scythe attack. LOOLOL im so smort |
Seriously. Grow up.
Artisan Archer
Wild Blow recharge = 8 sec. Escape recharge = 12 sec.
I don't see the problem, why nerf a balanced (meaning usefull yet counterable) skill?
I don't see the problem, why nerf a balanced (meaning usefull yet counterable) skill?
Elite God
Escape lasts for 7 seconds, and recharge is 12 seconds.
Water Spell to slow + Wild Blow = Dead Ranger.
Not only would you royally screw over Ranger PvP, but Ranger PvE.
Water Spell to slow + Wild Blow = Dead Ranger.
Not only would you royally screw over Ranger PvP, but Ranger PvE.
makosi
I vote for a duration increase but ends when you hit with an attack skill. And while we're nerfing rangers, let's fix distracting and savage shot.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Ctb
This is why I can't get my friends to play Guild Wars with me. It's a great game, but it has the most ridiculous group of people playing it I've ever seen in my entire life.
Seriously. Grow up. |
Srsly, get a clue.
And your friends don't have anything to be afraid of, they'll go with another retarder PUG and fail miserabely, I'll take H/H and do what I had to do. No big deal.
Witchblade
It's a good skill, it's played and Peeveepees wants the change?
I'll update my PvE builds then...
I'll update my PvE builds then...
Randvek
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Originally Posted by Ctb
This is why I can't get my friends to play Guild Wars with me. It's a great game, but it has the most ridiculous group of people playing it I've ever seen in my entire life.
Seriously. Grow up. |
Ctb
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Originally Posted by Randvek
Welcome to the intertubes. If that kind of thing pisses you off, I have no idea how you've managed to not kill yourself by this point.
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Want to know one of the big reasons that Guild Wars isn't even remotely close to overtaking WoW even though it's a much deeper (and cheaper) game? Look no further than this thread. WoW has it's share of dopes, but they generally trail off after the Barrens. In Guild Wars they just hang on 'till the end...
I'm just saying: there are people here who are proving that you can have an intelligent opposition to the suggestion that was made. It's unfortunate they're outnumbered by the CS:S rejects.
Turbobusa
If it had to be nerfed I'd revert it to what it was before, longer recharge, longer duration.
if it had to be nerfed
if it had to be nerfed
N1ghtstalker
omg something is too strong lets nerf it!
make a teambuild that can go against this ^.~
seriously less QQ and more playing
games is about playing them and having fun, not about QQ'ing cuz you get owned by a bunch of rangers
/notsigned
make a teambuild that can go against this ^.~
seriously less QQ and more playing
games is about playing them and having fun, not about QQ'ing cuz you get owned by a bunch of rangers
/notsigned
Killed u man
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Originally Posted by makosi
And while we're nerfing rangers, let's fix distracting and savage shot.
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Prepare to get flamed... (Don't the touch the Ranger skills - Mentality in top GvG)
ShadowsRequiem
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Ends if you hit with scythe attack.
LOOLOL im so smort |
/end thread
arrowofthewood
/notsigned
try nerfing another class than a ranger besides i need escape for pve running
try nerfing another class than a ranger besides i need escape for pve running
makosi
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Originally Posted by Killed u man
*Gives Makosi armor +24 against Fire Damage Shield*
Prepare to get flamed... (Don't the touch the Ranger skills - Mentality in top GvG) |
I can't even believe they had the new version of Magebane Shot at 5 energy for so long too.
Tyla
Ends if you hit with a melee attack, imo.
Kills the speedboost and block of the R/D. And we want degenerate builds gone.
Plus for bow Rangers there's Natstride, anyway. It's not like an Escape nerf like that is hurting anything...
@Artisan Ranger -- Wild Blow on a PvP bar is stupid on a Warrior. Usage = crap my adrenaline is gone.
Kills the speedboost and block of the R/D. And we want degenerate builds gone.
Plus for bow Rangers there's Natstride, anyway. It's not like an Escape nerf like that is hurting anything...
@Artisan Ranger -- Wild Blow on a PvP bar is stupid on a Warrior. Usage = crap my adrenaline is gone.
Mr.Bimble
End nerfing..............
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
@Artisan Ranger -- Wild Blow on a PvP bar is stupid on a Warrior. Usage = crap my adrenaline is gone. |
Orange Milk
Defile Defenses + wanding > Escape
Or
Rigor Mortis
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Any of the three(3) "Wild" attacks
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Your standard Anti-melee stuffs, ya know, Hexes, Blind, Wards, ect.
Wow thats alot of ways to stop Escape R/D's, yup sure is over powered alright.
Take a N/P with [skill]Wild Throw[/skill] and anit-melee and all your bases is covered
GG ya QQers
Or
Rigor Mortis
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Any of the three(3) "Wild" attacks
Or
Your standard Anti-melee stuffs, ya know, Hexes, Blind, Wards, ect.
Wow thats alot of ways to stop Escape R/D's, yup sure is over powered alright.
Take a N/P with [skill]Wild Throw[/skill] and anit-melee and all your bases is covered
GG ya QQers
Tyla
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Disagree. Very useful on GvG bars. The key is not to spam it.
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But I still don't think Wild Blow is any good in PvP on a bar with Adrenaline skills.
@Orange Milk -- You forgot to mention these builds can be ran by anyone, even if it was a mouse with it's brain removed and shrunk to three times it's usual size. Too easy and mindless to play...
the Puppeteer
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Originally Posted by Ctb
This is why I can't get my friends to play Guild Wars with me. It's a great game, but it has the most ridiculous group of people playing it I've ever seen in my entire life.
Seriously. Grow up. |
Painbringer
not signed
Like any stance they are easliy removable. Not to mention Hexable. Run away! Run away! While my nightmare kills you
Like any stance they are easliy removable. Not to mention Hexable. Run away! Run away! While my nightmare kills you