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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
Also I heard that mesmer pants will be designed to clip with all shields.
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Mommy!
How do YOU play GW?
upier
Mommy!
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Esan
I think there are technical reasons why click-to-move cannot be implemented in a world with interactive obstacles. Imagine if the only way to get from point A to B would be to jump over object C, roll under overhang D, dance a triple axel and salchow around marauding enemy E, milk dolyak F and churn its milk into butter, and then use said butter to slide over lavapit G. How on earth are you going to write an AI that does all that? I mean, GW1 falls over itself pathfinding on a trivial static 2D world.
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Thus, devs need to create pathing algorithm for their engine anyway, and it should be decent one if they don't want to create tons of exploits with it. GW1s pathing is not great (see: corner tanking), but it works decently. It works well enough to be comfortable way to move.
As far as interactive obstacles are concerned, ai must be able to pass them (or else be mercilessly exploited). Its not like whole world will be indiana-jones style dungeon and people can be ok with the fact that you clicked-to-move character stops moving when ai does not find any way to move to target.
Of course, i can be wrong and GW2 ai would consist only from stationary turret-paragons placed in devious mazes and most of content needing to be accessed by platform-jumper manner.
Kusandaa
I use...
WASD keys to move, click on NPCs if I'm lazy.
1-8 for skills, I use 1-5 via keyboard and click 6-8 (because I don't touch those often, you'll see why soon).
Skill setup: Res always 8, while my power heals and spammable skills are on 1, except for builds like SS (Arcane Echo 1, SS 2). At most I try to set my skills offensive/defensive (1-4 offensive, 5-7 defense, 8 res) on my warrior and paragon. Any enchantment or stances I have to maintain on myself and last longer goes beside the res (HBoon, attunements, Mantra of resolve etc)... except when I run 55 (spammables skills!).
F1-F4 are to change equipments, F5-F8 are for heroes, rest is the default setup.
WASD keys to move, click on NPCs if I'm lazy.
1-8 for skills, I use 1-5 via keyboard and click 6-8 (because I don't touch those often, you'll see why soon).
Skill setup: Res always 8, while my power heals and spammable skills are on 1, except for builds like SS (Arcane Echo 1, SS 2). At most I try to set my skills offensive/defensive (1-4 offensive, 5-7 defense, 8 res) on my warrior and paragon. Any enchantment or stances I have to maintain on myself and last longer goes beside the res (HBoon, attunements, Mantra of resolve etc)... except when I run 55 (spammables skills!).
F1-F4 are to change equipments, F5-F8 are for heroes, rest is the default setup.
distilledwill
I WASD to move and hold shit/ctrl to see all enemies/objects in the area, I usually hold the right mouse button to look around all the time for chests or enemies I might have missed.
I click on the skills to use them, rather than using the numbers.
I click on the skills to use them, rather than using the numbers.
Squishy ftw
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Originally Posted by distilledwill
I WASD to move and hold shit/ctrl to see all enemies/objects in the area,
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Oh, and too late to edit your post now.
around
I use telepathic communication with my army of Asian slaves in my basement.
I'll rent them out for £5 an hour ok?
I'll rent them out for £5 an hour ok?
C R A F T
In combat; 1234 for my primary/attack/healing skills, click 5678 for longer casting/secondary/rez skills, use Tab and "C" to select targets.
In movement; I have a trackball for facing maneuvers, W and R for moving, usually holding the Ctrl and Alt to find chests, hidden pop-ups, and enemies.
I mouse click to go "long distances" and the trackball to scan the area around me.
I know it sounds confusing, but it works for me.
In movement; I have a trackball for facing maneuvers, W and R for moving, usually holding the Ctrl and Alt to find chests, hidden pop-ups, and enemies.
I mouse click to go "long distances" and the trackball to scan the area around me.
I know it sounds confusing, but it works for me.
oracle.delphi
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Originally Posted by Esan
Clicking on skills is for noobs.
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Damdi
I usually click skills. Long time ago I tried few weeks using numbers for skills and kept mispressing all the time. It just isn't my thing. 
When moving I keep right mousebutton to rotate, press R to move forward when there is no enemies in sight and otherwise use WASD to move/strafe.
When moving I keep right mousebutton to rotate, press R to move forward when there is no enemies in sight and otherwise use WASD to move/strafe.
Commander Ryker
I'm all about the keyboard unless I'm monking.
Esan
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
I am fairly sure that GW2 wont feature static enemies that don't know how to walk[...]
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How about another problem: in a world with three dimensions, a mouse click does not unambiguously indicate a location. In the 2D world of GW, one would project of a ray cast to infinity onto the ground and then go to the first point of intersection, but in 3D it is not clear whether you mean the ground or the point in mid air.
Soul Saver
WASD and mouse for some target select mostly tab though and camera movement. 1-8 for skills.
Jetdoc
Movement: Mouse
Skills: qwer asdf
Skills: qwer asdf
stale
WASD (and QE, for diagonals of course)
1-8 for skills.
the numpad for my party, when monking.
0 on the numpad for closest item.
i'm oldschool enough to view using a mouse as "lazy-man's-computing" so i've changed a lot of the defaults to be more friendly to my hands. without checking settings i can't tell you what all is what anymore....
all the display settings are set to smaller than they were default, the various popup text boxes are turned off (NPC chats, mission objectives, etc) and i've moved some of them a little.
1-8 for skills.
the numpad for my party, when monking.
0 on the numpad for closest item.
i'm oldschool enough to view using a mouse as "lazy-man's-computing" so i've changed a lot of the defaults to be more friendly to my hands. without checking settings i can't tell you what all is what anymore....
all the display settings are set to smaller than they were default, the various popup text boxes are turned off (NPC chats, mission objectives, etc) and i've moved some of them a little.
creelie
I activate skills with 1234QWER, and move and select party members with the mouse. I'm a monk, and severely right-handed, so I need a setup where my left fingers don't need to move around much.
GW2 is going to be 3D, so I've resigned myself to being a newbie all over again. I'll work out a system for the GW2 interface when I have it before me.
GW2 is going to be 3D, so I've resigned myself to being a newbie all over again. I'll work out a system for the GW2 interface when I have it before me.
stale
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Originally Posted by oracle.delphi
um why exactly? if that's why you're comfortable with, why change?
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that, and anyone old enough to remember when a "mouse" was brand new and odd, will have far better keyboard skills than mouse skills.
but mostly it comes down to reflex - i can combo my 1-8 and numpad far faster than anyone could mouse the same setup. think about it - i've hit two keys, one to select a party member, one to use a skill. using a mouse, you've got to move to the window, click the member, move to the skillbar and click the skill. if seconds count, mousing will lose, every time.
oracle.delphi
and if you have better reflexes with clicking the mouse? I'm sorry, but i think it all comes down to personal preference...and i really dislike "only noobs do that comments"
bwillcox
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Originally Posted by Esan
I used to mouse walk only (too many pathing issues without it), but after the news that it will be removed from GW2, I have been wasding a lot more.
For skills, it's 12345 and the three side buttons on my mouse which generates mouse4, mouse5 and mouse6. Clicking on skills is for noobs. |
stretchs
I use wasd, 1-8, my layout is completely altered to my liking as i feel like the gw screen is very cluttered so i have moved everything to the edges. I have also turned off most of those popup panes that annoy you in mish/quests
MithranArkanere
When I move I usually:
- Hit R and direct with A,F and the right mouse button.
- Hit and hold the left mouse button, and then hit and hold the right ouse button to move.
- Use the WADS.
I activate the skills with both the mouse and the keys.
When I monk, I click the health bars.
To target enemies I click in their names or their skill activation icons.
- Hit R and direct with A,F and the right mouse button.
- Hit and hold the left mouse button, and then hit and hold the right ouse button to move.
- Use the WADS.
I activate the skills with both the mouse and the keys.
When I monk, I click the health bars.
To target enemies I click in their names or their skill activation icons.
Angelic Upstart
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Originally Posted by Medic
I use Ursan, so I just mash the keyboard with my palms until something happens.
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Painbringer
I run a G-11 Logitech Programmable Keyboard and the programmable Logitech mouse (G-5? Not sure at work)as well
I have 3 sets of 6 keys on the left hand
Target Next /Target closet/ Target previous
Auto Run/ Attack-do it button / Called target
Turn Left/ Forward / Turn Right
Strafe Left/Backwards/ Strafe Right
Select closest Item on ground (favorite key) / Show Enemies/ Show allies
Do it Button (for picking up) / (Ctrl Alt Space) Command / Nothing
Mouse – I have Skill slot 5 on button one and skill slot 6 on button two (I am a Mesmer by default and dedicating two skills for disruption is awesome) works good for spamming as well Paragons Shouts
And I am old school for the other skills clicking with the mouse for the other keys
10 key is set up for all allies 1-8 for healing (but I do not use it much) Don’t heal to much
I have 3 sets of 6 keys on the left hand
Target Next /Target closet/ Target previous
Auto Run/ Attack-do it button / Called target
Turn Left/ Forward / Turn Right
Strafe Left/Backwards/ Strafe Right
Select closest Item on ground (favorite key) / Show Enemies/ Show allies
Do it Button (for picking up) / (Ctrl Alt Space) Command / Nothing
Mouse – I have Skill slot 5 on button one and skill slot 6 on button two (I am a Mesmer by default and dedicating two skills for disruption is awesome) works good for spamming as well Paragons Shouts
And I am old school for the other skills clicking with the mouse for the other keys
10 key is set up for all allies 1-8 for healing (but I do not use it much) Don’t heal to much
Alleji
Mouse - left hand
Movement - 2,4,6,8 numpad
Targeting - 1,7,9 numpad (but I click the targets most of the time anyway)
Skills - Left, Down, Right, PgDown, PgUp, RightCtrl, Numpad Enter
Some other random functions on the remaining numpad keys.
The screen layout is pretty close to standard, except my enchantments/hexes/etc are right above my skill bar and the target's HP is right above that, so I don't have to look all over the screen for vital information. Target's skill activation is still at the top, but significantly enlarged.
I used to mouse-walk, but after quitting GW for WoW for a year I got used to clicking on targets all the time and using keys to move because a) WoW doesn't allow mouse-walking and b) Tab-targeting system in WoW is terribaed. After I came back to GW, I found clicking targets more convenient, but pathing bugs with keyboard-walking are damn annoying >.<
Movement - 2,4,6,8 numpad
Targeting - 1,7,9 numpad (but I click the targets most of the time anyway)
Skills - Left, Down, Right, PgDown, PgUp, RightCtrl, Numpad Enter
Some other random functions on the remaining numpad keys.
The screen layout is pretty close to standard, except my enchantments/hexes/etc are right above my skill bar and the target's HP is right above that, so I don't have to look all over the screen for vital information. Target's skill activation is still at the top, but significantly enlarged.
I used to mouse-walk, but after quitting GW for WoW for a year I got used to clicking on targets all the time and using keys to move because a) WoW doesn't allow mouse-walking and b) Tab-targeting system in WoW is terribaed. After I came back to GW, I found clicking targets more convenient, but pathing bugs with keyboard-walking are damn annoying >.<
bwillcox
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Originally Posted by Esan
I think there are technical reasons why click-to-move cannot be implemented in a world with interactive obstacles. Imagine if the only way to get from point A to B would be to jump over object C, roll under overhang D, dance a triple axel and salchow around marauding enemy E, milk dolyak F and churn its milk into butter, and then use said butter to slide over lavapit G. How on earth are you going to write an AI that does all that? I mean, GW1 falls over itself pathfinding on a trivial static 2D world.
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Spirit Of Azrael
WASD+Click
I tried using numbers, but I haeted it.
I tried using numbers, but I haeted it.
Destro Maniak
1.Take 50-60k from chest
2a.Go material trader and buy tons of iron+dust+bone+feather
2b.^^ same baoghtt from real players
3 go ratasum buy essence
4.go gunnars buy grail
5. go central transfer buy armor of salvation
6. go a mish I havent done already and say "*what ever Im gonna do* HM we share cons set prices anyone interesteed?"
7.Have fun
Misunderstood
I play wasd normally. I use mose when I need to type something that includes "w"
2a.Go material trader and buy tons of iron+dust+bone+feather
2b.^^ same baoghtt from real players
3 go ratasum buy essence
4.go gunnars buy grail
5. go central transfer buy armor of salvation
6. go a mish I havent done already and say "*what ever Im gonna do* HM we share cons set prices anyone interesteed?"
7.Have fun
Misunderstood
I play wasd normally. I use mose when I need to type something that includes "w"
Olim Chill
For skills I usually strike 1-3 and click the rest.
Shift + click for targeting.
Letter keys for movement...nothing fancy.
Shift + click for targeting.
Letter keys for movement...nothing fancy.
Bryant Again
I think the only things I've changed have been switching the QE with the AD keys, so it's easier to strafe.
I've also bound Z and X to H/H Flag and Unflag, makes it a hell of a lot easier on the occasions where something goes bad.
I've also bound Z and X to H/H Flag and Unflag, makes it a hell of a lot easier on the occasions where something goes bad.
Sakura Az
i use WASD to move + the mouse at the same time, so sometimes i'll be walking with W,E,A held down and moving the mouse to controll too.
for skills its 1-8 with usualy aegis/DA on my heros bound to Y and i'll usualy mouse click 7-8 in pve, but use the keys in pvp. for monking i always have RoF in 1, Heal in 2(ZB or GoH) condition removal in 3, hex remov on 4, and hen 5-8 has guardian SoA, SB or PS and GoLE.
for skills its 1-8 with usualy aegis/DA on my heros bound to Y and i'll usualy mouse click 7-8 in pve, but use the keys in pvp. for monking i always have RoF in 1, Heal in 2(ZB or GoH) condition removal in 3, hex remov on 4, and hen 5-8 has guardian SoA, SB or PS and GoLE.
Um Yeah
Skills: 1-6, y, h
Movement: Mouse, W=Forwards, S=Backwards, A=Strafe Left, D=Strafe Right
Targeting: E=Target Next, Q=Target Previous, Click on party window
Movement: Mouse, W=Forwards, S=Backwards, A=Strafe Left, D=Strafe Right
Targeting: E=Target Next, Q=Target Previous, Click on party window
Lyssa Apate
WASD.
Skills depend on priority. I'll keyboard interrupts at 1-3 and be lazy and click the rest.
Skills depend on priority. I'll keyboard interrupts at 1-3 and be lazy and click the rest.
Taisayacho
WASD and 1-8, with my spammy skills as 1-3/4, click for party select (easiest for me on monk)
MrSlayer
I use a mouse and a keyboard. I even plug them into my computer. 
blakecraw
skills: 1234 erfv with the 2x4 skill bar so that it kind of lines up with the keys: 1234 are the top row, erfv are the bottom row (res/channeling/gole etc. goes on 4 since it's the longest reach)
movement: wasd and mouse clicking, q for autorun even though that's a pretty inefficient use for such an easy-to-reach key
targeting: tab, c for nearest enemy, and side buttons on my mouse for target next/previous, mouse-click party members
movement: wasd and mouse clicking, q for autorun even though that's a pretty inefficient use for such an easy-to-reach key
targeting: tab, c for nearest enemy, and side buttons on my mouse for target next/previous, mouse-click party members
StormDragonZ
Arrow keys to move.
Always calling targets even in a group.
Team Chat/Local Chat always on.
Emotes off.
Use five characters often doing random missions or exploration to rotate them getting used to what they can do.
Always calling targets even in a group.
Team Chat/Local Chat always on.
Emotes off.
Use five characters often doing random missions or exploration to rotate them getting used to what they can do.
BLOODGOAT
WASD + right-click for navigation and movement
Keys 1-4 for skills 1-4, mouse for skills 5-8
Mouse for selecting party member
Most chat modes off other than Guild chat and Team chat. Alliance chat enabled if I feel gabby.
Keys 1-4 for skills 1-4, mouse for skills 5-8
Mouse for selecting party member
Most chat modes off other than Guild chat and Team chat. Alliance chat enabled if I feel gabby.
RedNova88
WASD, I click all of my skills, and my eyes are on my mini map, as well as my opponents health bar 99.9% of the time. I very rarely actually look at the screen which is strange when you think about it. I use Tab and C to target until I come across a Monk or some other softy.
Nevin
Ursanwayyyyy
Dallcingi
wasd mouse 1234rtgh
and party window
and party window
MarlinBackna
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Ideazon Fang gaming keypad. Pretty much everything except chat is assigned to buttons on that. I can do most things in-game without having to look away from the screen. I've figured out a good layout for the Fang, and gotten used to it... and now I can never go back to a regular keyboard.
I use the mouse for steering movement, and activating skills. I have my skills in a 4x2 grid instead of the default 8x1, health and energy bars directly underneath, "drop item" directly above. All in-game messages moved to the left, where they won't obstruct my view of targets etc. |
About GUI placement....I use stock GUI (8 skills on the bottom, health/energy above it each taking half, chat in bottom left, party on center right, exp bar in top left) Just got used to it.
