I asked around while in-game and got a yes, but I am having a lot of problems trying to find quests and missions. The Mission at the digging area isn't available for me, either because I'm too low level (level 8) or because I haven't completed a mission yet, or because I haven't gotten my secondary profession. I am thinking that you can only get the mission to have that monk join your team if you choose a secondary profession, and then after you have him on your team, you can do the mission in the digging area (I think that is where you get the girl dervish hero right?).
Has anyone actually completed any of the campaigns without choosing a secondary class, and can someone help me find quests/missions to continue on if it is possible?
Thanks
D_W_N_D
Can you beat Nightfall without choosing a secondary class?
Disco_Will_Not_Die
joshuarodger
i think choosing a secondary is a requirement for all storylines so you have to actually choose one. however, i went through all of nightfall using just derv skills except for when i was capping elites. it was pretty easy to do. also the only non-derv skill i use when vanking NF is Pain Inverter, which technically, means i still haven't used any skills from a secondary profession.
Kyrein
none of the campaigns allow it
Disco_Will_Not_Die
Okay, since it seems that the people in the game were mistaken, just how far can you go without selecting the secondary class? Nightfall seems to have a lot of boundaries, since it's surrounded by water. Certain areas have gates closed, so you can't go in them too.
Would I be able to have someone run me to droks? Since I see a lot of people spamming that in the chat rooms.
Would I be able to have someone run me to droks? Since I see a lot of people spamming that in the chat rooms.
Kyrein
go through the story.......you'll find it
joshuarodger
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Okay, since it seems that the people in the game were mistaken, just how far can you go without selecting the secondary class? Nightfall seems to have a lot of boundaries, since it's surrounded by water. Certain areas have gates closed, so you can't go in them too.
Would I be able to have someone run me to droks? Since I see a lot of people spamming that in the chat rooms. i don't really understand why you're avoiding choosing a secondary class, but you can't progress through NF without doing it. you also can't go to any other campaign (Prophs, Factions) until you reach a certain level with your character (not sure what level that is offhand) and it's pretty difficult to reach that level without progressing through the storyline. you can get a runner to droks from lion's arch at any level but if all you need is max armor, just get a ferry in kamadan to the consulate docks. you can get max armor there and i think it only costs about 500g for the ferry usually. i think i was level 2 or 3 when i got my ferry for my ele's max armor.
Would I be able to have someone run me to droks? Since I see a lot of people spamming that in the chat rooms. i don't really understand why you're avoiding choosing a secondary class, but you can't progress through NF without doing it. you also can't go to any other campaign (Prophs, Factions) until you reach a certain level with your character (not sure what level that is offhand) and it's pretty difficult to reach that level without progressing through the storyline. you can get a runner to droks from lion's arch at any level but if all you need is max armor, just get a ferry in kamadan to the consulate docks. you can get max armor there and i think it only costs about 500g for the ferry usually. i think i was level 2 or 3 when i got my ferry for my ele's max armor.
Disco_Will_Not_Die
I thought it'd be fun! Sometimes it gets boring doing the same quests/missions all over again. And with titles, I thought it would be cool to get to the end of the game and still be just a ranger.
Bront
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i don't really understand why you're avoiding choosing a secondary class, but you can't progress through NF without doing it. you also can't go to any other campaign (Prophs, Factions) until you reach a certain level with your character (not sure what level that is offhand) and it's pretty difficult to reach that level without progressing through the storyline. you can get a runner to droks from lion's arch at any level but if all you need is max armor, just get a ferry in kamadan to the consulate docks. you can get max armor there and i think it only costs about 500g for the ferry usually. i think i was level 2 or 3 when i got my ferry for my ele's max armor.
You actualy don't need to be a minimum level if you're R6 Sunspear, otherwise it's technicaly level 12 (The last +15 attribute point quest) I believe.
However, since you need complete 3 missions, and several primary quests (some of which involve lots of fighting), it's rather hard to be under 16 by the time you can actualy leave Istan.
Prophecies is the only campaign where you can move to any other campaign at a very low level, though that requires you to be run. I think you'd have trouble doing it under level 3 though (There's a challenge for you, get to NF and Cantha before you hit L3 from Proph), mostly because of required quests.
However, since you need complete 3 missions, and several primary quests (some of which involve lots of fighting), it's rather hard to be under 16 by the time you can actualy leave Istan.
Prophecies is the only campaign where you can move to any other campaign at a very low level, though that requires you to be run. I think you'd have trouble doing it under level 3 though (There's a challenge for you, get to NF and Cantha before you hit L3 from Proph), mostly because of required quests.
joshuarodger
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You actualy don't need to be a minimum level if you're R6 Sunspear, otherwise it's technicaly level 12 (The last +15 attribute point quest) I believe.
However, since you need complete 3 missions, and several primary quests (some of which involve lots of fighting), it's rather hard to be under 16 by the time you can actualy leave Istan.
Prophecies is the only campaign where you can move to any other campaign at a very low level, though that requires you to be run. I think you'd have trouble doing it under level 3 though (There's a challenge for you, get to NF and Cantha before you hit L3 from Proph), mostly because of required quests. you actually can't move on to NF from Prophs at a level lower than 17. i tried it with my level 15 ranger so i could get some heroes and it wouldn't allow me until i reached level 17. so i just went to GWEN instead where the heroes are already level 20 anyway and you level much faster from fighting. don't know about going to factions though.
However, since you need complete 3 missions, and several primary quests (some of which involve lots of fighting), it's rather hard to be under 16 by the time you can actualy leave Istan.
Prophecies is the only campaign where you can move to any other campaign at a very low level, though that requires you to be run. I think you'd have trouble doing it under level 3 though (There's a challenge for you, get to NF and Cantha before you hit L3 from Proph), mostly because of required quests. you actually can't move on to NF from Prophs at a level lower than 17. i tried it with my level 15 ranger so i could get some heroes and it wouldn't allow me until i reached level 17. so i just went to GWEN instead where the heroes are already level 20 anyway and you level much faster from fighting. don't know about going to factions though.
Kyrein
..........yes you can joshua
i did the quest at lvl 4 with henchies
i did the quest at lvl 4 with henchies
Disco_Will_Not_Die
What about going to EoTN? You can do that at lv.10, right? Can my character go to EoTN at lv.10 if I haven't selected my secondary class yet?
arsie
Is it the latest fancy handicap? Completing the games with one Profession. I guess the worry of new players ending up not choosing a Secondary Profession is bigger than the tiny street creds of people showing off their single Profession at hard areas.
joshuarodger
i stand corrected and i guess i i have to take my foot out of my mouth. maybe i got it confused with going to cantha from NF or something else. i don't know but sorry for any misinformation.
but in reference to beating the game early, i know you can easily beat prophs at a very low level. i've never done it but i've seen level 7's through 9's in the ring of fire islands. you just have to get a runner to thunderhead keep and do those last missions from what i understand but you still have to choose a secondary i guess.
i think you can go to EOTN at level 10 if you haven't selected a secondary yet. i don't see why not anyway but i don't know for sure.
but in reference to beating the game early, i know you can easily beat prophs at a very low level. i've never done it but i've seen level 7's through 9's in the ring of fire islands. you just have to get a runner to thunderhead keep and do those last missions from what i understand but you still have to choose a secondary i guess.
i think you can go to EOTN at level 10 if you haven't selected a secondary yet. i don't see why not anyway but i don't know for sure.
Pale-Dim
could you not get a ferry to consolate docks and from there get a ferry to cantha/proph while still under 1 class? you still wont be able to get off istan island though since you cant do consolate docks mission without the pre-requisite quest. this may open the ability to do cantha/proph while still under 1 profession
Disco_Will_Not_Die
Well this idea all originated when I didn't know what secondary to choose. I liked a bunch of them, and knew that I'd be locked in with them until I got to the other continent. So I thought that I could wait and see what other cool ranger skills I get throughout the game and then choose later on, when I have a much wider choose of skills for both my primary and secondary class. Why select a class now for a combo I can't do until I that other skill much later in the game?
Then I thought how cool it would look to just see R in my name the entire game.
Then I thought how cool it would look to just see R in my name the entire game.
Div
No offense, but learning how to be good at the game seems more important than beating it without a secondary profession.
Afterwards you can worry about that.
Afterwards you can worry about that.
Konig Des Todes
You cannot move on any farther with primary quests, the only campaign you can do without a secondary is EN, where you just need to be lvl 10 to get to, other then that, you MUST get a secondary. If you can't decide, just pick one, you can unlock the other secondaries later in the game, but it is impossible to complete the campaign without a secondary.
The only way that it was ever possible was during the Nightfall Preview event, when they introduced the secondary profession switching by pressing K, then you could choose your primary only. And after the event, I saw many people far in the game with just a primary, many of which probably have a secondary again by now due to how helpful it is.
The only way that it was ever possible was during the Nightfall Preview event, when they introduced the secondary profession switching by pressing K, then you could choose your primary only. And after the event, I saw many people far in the game with just a primary, many of which probably have a secondary again by now due to how helpful it is.
Disco_Will_Not_Die
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No offense, but learning how to be good at the game seems more important than beating it without a secondary profession.
Afterwards you can worry about that. That might be important to YOU, but how do you know that is important to ME?
Afterwards you can worry about that. That might be important to YOU, but how do you know that is important to ME?
Kyrein
so you don't care if you suck ass at the game as long as you can play without a secondary?
Disco_Will_Not_Die
I don't care if I suck ass at the game as long as I am having fun, and am damn proud of it.
Kyrein
have fun getting flamed and insulted for the rest of your GW life then
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by Kyrein
have fun getting flamed and insulted for the rest of your GW life then
who cares. just play the game. i never understood why people tear others down instead of trying to be helpful.
Kyrein
nevertheless, people do
Disco_Will_Not_Die
I got used to it the second I got on the internet and learned that people like to hide behind the net and act all cocky because they suck in real life.
Trvth Jvstice
If it were possible to get to one Campaign to another with only one profession that would be great. Apparently it can't be done, but I think it would be cool to see an E20 (or whatever profession) at Hell's Precipice. The majority of my characters don't use their secondary anyway.
jhu
getting to the mainland as a nightfall character without getting a secondary is not possible (as far as i know, and i've tried). getting to the other campaigns is possible: get a ferry to consulate docks, then get ferries to factions and prophecies from there. i have 2 characters that have legendary survivor and they don't have secondaries (one of whom has beaten prophecies), so it can be done.
in the past you could have done it with a factions character. when looking at guild halls, there was a canthan ferry captain that would take you to lion's arch from the warrior isle. from there you could hitch a ride with someone back to cantha (where you would be on the mainland now) and then hitch a ride with someone to istan. unfortunately, anet got rid of that canthan ferry captain sometime during the summer of 2007. Alka
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none of the campaigns allow it
i finished factions on my paragon(lev20) without sec class
Alka
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Prophecies is the only campaign where you can move to any other campaign at a very low level, though that requires you to be run. I think you'd have trouble doing it under level 3 though (There's a challenge for you, get to NF and Cantha before you hit L3 from Proph), mostly because of required quests. |
at tahakanai temple i was lev 20 P with no sec
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If it were possible to get to one Campaign to another with only one profession that would be great. Apparently it can't be done, but I think it would be cool to see an E20 (or whatever profession) at Hell's Precipice. The majority of my characters don't use their secondary anyway.
i finished cantha with my paragon which was lev 5 when arrived in kaineng
at tahakanai temple i was lev 20 P with no sec Disco_Will_Not_Die
I think I found a neat glitch. I'm lv.9 and still don't have a secondary class. I am a Sunspear General, working towards getting my Commandership.
When I go to the Sunspear Hall place, and buy skills for my heroes, they show up in my skills too! And the great part? They don't even have to be ranger skills! You heard me right. All classes of hero skills that I buy show up in my skill list, and I can add them to my skill bar, and even go out and use them in battle. Sure, they aren't that awesome since I don't have a place to put points into inspiration magic or strength, but I can still use the skills none-the-less. I think this is a really cool thing (glitch maybe) that makes completing the game without a secondary class a lot of fun. Covah
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If it were possible to get to one Campaign to another with only one profession that would be great. Apparently it can't be done, but I think it would be cool to see an E20 (or whatever profession) at Hell's Precipice. The majority of my characters don't use their secondary anyway.
Make a NF char and get a ferry to the docks, then to LA and or Cantha. Then play through the game. You can beat proph and factions w/o a secondary if you made a NF char.
Bront
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I think I found a neat glitch. I'm lv.9 and still don't have a secondary class. I am a Sunspear General, working towards getting my Commandership.
When I go to the Sunspear Hall place, and buy skills for my heroes, they show up in my skills too! And the great part? They don't even have to be ranger skills! You heard me right. All classes of hero skills that I buy show up in my skill list, and I can add them to my skill bar, and even go out and use them in battle. Sure, they aren't that awesome since I don't have a place to put points into inspiration magic or strength, but I can still use the skills none-the-less. I think this is a really cool thing (glitch maybe) that makes completing the game without a secondary class a lot of fun. I'd worry that once you do get a secondary, all the skills in your non-secondary might get whiped (that's what happens if you grab all the skills in the training area, when you finaly unlock what wasn't your secondary, those skills aren't all there.
Bluefeather
The OP's original question is whether you can progress to the NF without getting a second profession, and a lot of posters already said you can't. And that is correct.
The other issue that came up is whether you can do other campaigns without any second profession. For Prophecies and Factions character, this is not possible because you need to get a second profession before you can move the main islands (post searing for Prophecies). But if you start a character from NF, you can finish two other campaigns (Prop and Faction) without a second profession asking someone to ferry to LA or KC (or both). Currently, I am playing with a new NF character and I went to LA at level 3. I paid 1k to a player to help me get Olias. Then I went to KC to get the Assassin Hero. So, I have a 4-team already. I was around lvl 5, Koss maybe 3 or 4 and Olias and Zenmai (?) both level 15. I did the easy quest in KC and Marketplace until i made it to level 10 and went to EoTN to get Ogden, then went to Gunnards Hold (?) and played brawling until i made it to lvl 20 and earned my Survivor 1 title. Then I went back to LA and played the missions and bonuses and now I'm in THK with almost 300k experience (still working on Survivor 2). The fun part is my skill bar because I still don't have any other skills other than the one I got from the tutorial in NF. I beat my mirror using the brawling skill and I got the bonus, too. I beat Glint using Koss' interrupt skill which I manually activate. In THK now but I don't have internet connection for almost 4 days now due to ISP problem. Hoping to finish Prophesy within the month earning the title Protector of Tyria and Survivor 2. Then, proceed to Faction and finish it, then EOTN and finally NF. I am still lacking 30 points because I can no longer earn points to get a sunspear rank in NF. I have already finished the 4 campaigns and I am only re-rolling. So, just like what the other 2 or 3 posters, yes you can finish other campaigns without having a second profession IF YOU HAVE A NF CHARACTER.
weretoad
you can beat proficies at lvl 2-like 6, then play factions tell lvl 10, beat eotn, and then beat factions all without using or getting a secondary profession. you would need a lot of money and really good and nice people though lol
Moloch Vein
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When I go to the Sunspear Hall place, and buy skills for my heroes, they show up in my skills too! And the great part? They don't even have to be ranger skills! You heard me right. All classes of hero skills that I buy show up in my skill list, and I can add them to my skill bar, and even go out and use them in battle. Sure, they aren't that awesome since I don't have a place to put points into inspiration magic or strength, but I can still use the skills none-the-less. I think this is a really cool thing (glitch maybe) that makes completing the game without a secondary class a lot of fun. |
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you can beat proficies at lvl 2-like 6, then play factions tell lvl 10, beat eotn, and then beat factions all without using or getting a secondary profession. you would need a lot of money and really good and nice people though lol
If I'm not mistaken you cannot leave pre-Searing without choosing a secondary.
jhu
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this only works if you haven't gotten a secondary profession. so it's not game breaking since the attribute for that skill will be 0.
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If I'm not mistaken you cannot leave pre-Searing without choosing a secondary.
you can't. but you can leave nightfall without getting a secondary. you can get to prophecies and factions as a level 2 nightfall character
Arduin
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this only works if you haven't gotten a secondary profession. so it's not game breaking since the attribute for that skill will be 0.
Some skills don't need attribute points to be effective.
jhu Minime The Shadow
a little off topic but recently i saw someone with a similar situation, whilst relaxing in seitung harbour, i saw what i presume was a nightfall created character (name had corsair in it), Profession: R20 Title: Legendary Survivor
althought quite possible, i origionally thought how? maybe farming some low-ish levels (15-18)? thousands of times, but seeing what everyone else has put on this thread, it makes more sense. cheers for the insight 
Disco_Will_Not_Die
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If this is really true it could be gamebreaking. Having a level 20 character that is able to use several effectively unlinked skills from different classes could be exploited, I think.
It's true. I've past that point in my GW life, and since then have gotten a secondary class. What one person said did happen, all the other skills disappeared when I chose my secondary. It was fun, like having an interrupt signet and other cool stuff at the same time, but I quickly got over the little fun of it.
Monkey Slayer
I don't think you could beat NF, but you surely could beat the other 2 campaigns without a secondary. My friend in my guild has a lvl 20 Para with no secondary.
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