Would i get banned for this?

greenreaper3

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hey sorry if this is in the wrong thread, but i want to know if i would get banned for this... or maybe even make it look like i could get baned for it...


im going for Legendary Defender of Ascalon, the hardest title to get besdies KoaBD titles, and im in the death leveling stage. except, one problem

anet made it so u get booted after 10 hours of no activity. im not gonna sit there and click or something for 10 hours. ive tryed weighing down a key so i move, but its just stops working after about 3 minutes, so time for the question

if i constructed some sort of device that kept hitting the mouse, or a key over and over, would i get banned or suspended from the game, or would it look like a macro program and get banned? i really want to know this b4 i try and get banned ><

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Kikuta

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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If you display behavior in game that suggests you are using a bot, you will be flagged and banned.

Even if you aren't using a bot, just using physical object to repeatedly click the mouse, there is no distinction between the two. If you're found out, you'll be banned.

greenreaper3

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oh ok thanks...

Courage!

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u would probly be flagged as a bot yes

Medic

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I am working on a LDoA mesmer, currently a few xp points shy of lvl 18. I have been able to go afk for 10-16 hours at a time while death lvling without a disconnect, and then sometimes I get booted off after 3 hours.

Its a crapshoot, just dont stress about it. Also you should check out some of the guides on death leveling at presearing.com

Limu Tolkki

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I have one "would i get banned question" too. If i had a friend who would be quitting guild wars. And he or she decided to give me hes or hers guild wars stuff, weapons, money, materials, everything. Would anet think i've bought gw money with real money if he or she gave stuff to me for free.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Limu Tolkki
I have one "would i get banned question" too. If i had a friend who would be quitting guild wars. And he or she decided to give me hes or hers guild wars stuff, weapons, money, materials, everything. Would anet think i've bought gw money with real money if he or she gave stuff to me for free.
No. (Not as long as you share some of it with me)

Solas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Limu Tolkki
I have one "would i get banned question" too. If i had a friend who would be quitting guild wars. And he or she decided to give me hes or hers guild wars stuff, weapons, money, materials, everything. Would anet think i've bought gw money with real money if he or she gave stuff to me for free.
Doubt it, as i assume the items wouldn't all be mega rare,
I;'ve heard of stories of people getting tons of plat from friends leaving so i assume it's safe enough, just dont make any bot jokes in the process:P

OSUJay

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Limu Tolkki
I have one "would i get banned question" too. If i had a friend who would be quitting guild wars. And he or she decided to give me hes or hers guild wars stuff, weapons, money, materials, everything. Would anet think i've bought gw money with real money if he or she gave stuff to me for free.
From what I know, it's somewhat dangerous to receive a lot of free items/money without anything being traded on your part because it can get flagged with the thought that you bought the stuff with real money. What I would do to be perfectly safe would be to trade worthless items to your friend in exchange for the items he's giving you. For example give him some random white axe. I would think that it would make you less likely to be flagged. Just a thought if you want to be completely safe.

fenix

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FYI, Anet aren't ever going to ban you for selling a non max blue wand for 500k (unless you - by chance - sell that item to a WELL known ebayer, then a ban could happen). They do, on the other hand, ban for accepting free things. Hint hint

anshin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

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In my alliance are more than a few people that give stuff for free, and more than occasionally. Do you mean that having this behaviour can get the receivers banned?

enter_the_zone

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Limu Tolkki
I have one "would i get banned question" too. If i had a friend who would be quitting guild wars. And he or she decided to give me hes or hers guild wars stuff, weapons, money, materials, everything. Would anet think i've bought gw money with real money if he or she gave stuff to me for free.
An easy way to make sure this doesn't happen is to discuss why he is doing it in whispers or team chat while doing the trades. When they check your chat logs at the time of the trade, they'll see the explanation. I do this all the time when trading stuff between my accounts which connect from different IP's. Yes, I am so sad I have 2 broadband connections.

Vix

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikuta
If you display behavior in game that suggests you are using a bot, you will be flagged and banned.

Even if you aren't using a bot, just using physical object to repeatedly click the mouse, there is no distinction between the two. If you're found out, you'll be banned.
ive been using a macro to click on an ale stack every minute for the drunkard title
done that for like 2 months now and no ban yet
imo its ridiculous enough to pay 1mil+ for the title, ill be damned if im gonna sit by the pc for a week clicking

DDL

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Originally Posted by greenreaper3
anet made it so u get booted after 10 hours of no activity. im not gonna sit there and click or something for 10 hours.
Surely "10 hours of no activity" is just that: 10 whole hours where you don't do ANYTHING.

It doesn't mean you have to be doing something CONSTANTLY for 10 hours to avoid that, it simply means you have to do SOMETHING within a 10 hour window, right?

So just check in at the five hour mark (or something), activate one skill, then go afk again for another five hours.

Lykan

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I'm pretty sure the behavior they look for is a char farming the same area over and over, and then they would look at the area being farmed. If you are sitting in the same zone for hours on end, that isn't a bot. A bot zones in, farms, then zones out. I'm sure you wouldn't get the shaft for doing that in Pre. The only things worth anything are dye drops.

Bowstring Badass

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HAHA.

But that could work.

Alex Dimitri

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I just kind of wonder why the titles like LDoA and few others (gold related) even exist if Anet preventing and banning people for just trying to reach them ???
Take this for example if u want to reach Sweet, Drunk, Party titles u only need gold, no skill at all ! So u need to get to pro level farmer to have enough gold for them or to wait for MERCY weekends, if u take gold from someone u risk being banned, so what`s the point ???
If Anet wants to prevent gold trading, they need to sell gold themselves !!!
Easy enough in GW store should be option buy xxxxx gold for xx $ that would erase any source of black market gold sellers and people getting banned for buying !!!
Plus that money could be used to finance more people for Anet team (expand game even more, they said that most of their programmers workin` on GW2) and to even more expand servers (make them less laggy) !!!

Nanood

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Dimitri
I just kind of wonder why the titles like LDoA and few others (gold related) even exist if Anet preventing and banning people for just trying to reach them ???
Take this for example if u want to reach Sweet, Drunk, Party titles u only need gold, no skill at all ! So u need to get to pro level farmer to have enough gold for them or to wait for MERCY weekends, if u take gold from someone u risk being banned, so what`s the point ???
If Anet wants to prevent gold trading, they need to sell gold themselves !!!
Easy enough in GW store should be option buy xxxxx gold for xx $ that would erase any source of black market gold sellers and people getting banned for buying !!!
Plus that money could be used to finance more people for Anet team (expand game even more, they said that most of their programmers workin` on GW2) and to even more expand servers (make them less laggy) !!!

Dude.. That's the worst idea ever.

crazybanshee

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vix
ive been using a macro to click on an ale stack every minute for the drunkard title
done that for like 2 months now and no ban yet
imo its ridiculous enough to pay 1mil+ for the title, ill be damned if im gonna sit by the pc for a week clicking
Uh, I believe that actually is a bannable offense...

Vix

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Originally Posted by crazybanshee
Uh, I believe that actually is a bannable offense...
never said it wasnt
if i cared about being banned i wouldnt post this, now would i?

Esan

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Join Date: Jul 2007

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Botting is technically illegal, but I doubt Anet are wasting their short staffed crew on tracking LDoA botters. People have been doing far more serious botting (eg. HFFF) for months and months with no action taken against them. Empirically, it appears that the metric they use to ban botters is whether they adversely affect the in-game economy.

Alex the Great

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Dimitri
I just kind of wonder why the titles like LDoA and few others (gold related) even exist if Anet preventing and banning people for just trying to reach them ???
Take this for example if u want to reach Sweet, Drunk, Party titles u only need gold, no skill at all ! So u need to get to pro level farmer to have enough gold for them or to wait for MERCY weekends, if u take gold from someone u risk being banned, so what`s the point ???
If Anet wants to prevent gold trading, they need to sell gold themselves !!!
Easy enough in GW store should be option buy xxxxx gold for xx $ that would erase any source of black market gold sellers and people getting banned for buying !!!
Plus that money could be used to finance more people for Anet team (expand game even more, they said that most of their programmers workin` on GW2) and to even more expand servers (make them less laggy) !!!


that is the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing dumbest idea i have ever heard, please just go play a different game or quit spreading that crap around.


if they did that i know i would quit and i bet aroun 30-40% over other people would also.

warcrap

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if they think your botting you might get banned i suggest you use the in-game macros which are not illegal.

Dr Strangelove

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If you have to ask, it's probably not kosher.

Like other people said though, I doubt they're tracking pre-searing botting that carefully, and it's a small enough macro that I doubt it would be a big deal.

jiggerjay

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The easiest way of doing it how i have found it, is to set up a dl before you go bad, and just mash the keyboard when you get up! then leave for another 6 hours or so!

wilkinscs1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
From what I know, it's somewhat dangerous to receive a lot of free items/money without anything being traded on your part because it can get flagged with the thought that you bought the stuff with real money. What I would do to be perfectly safe would be to trade worthless items to your friend in exchange for the items he's giving you. For example give him some random white axe. I would think that it would make you less likely to be flagged. Just a thought if you want to be completely safe.
Thats actually a common method that gold farmers have been using forever to try to appear legit (and not just in GW.) I think he would be MORE likely to get banned if he did this.

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Originally Posted by Lykan

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thats exactly what I was thinking of as well when I read his post hahahaha

HawkofStorms

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wilkinscs1
Thats actually a common method that gold farmers have been using forever to try to appear legit (and not just in GW.) I think he would be MORE likely to get banned if he did this.
Agreed.
Gold sellers do that all the time.

DrFong

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Yes well if they (ANET) was that concerned with these bots out there there wouldn't be a hundred or so side stepping crab walking R/Wars botting in Icytooth Cave every party weekend . Uhm you can see its a program they map into to town side step to the skills guy then they side step to the wall to line up for the sidestep out the door stopping every 20 minutes or so to sidestep to the merchant to cha ching cha ching cha ching . This was found every party weekend when party items are given out thus party items are not sell able to merchant so they keep just the party items for them selfs. Yes buying gold regardless of who from is just wrong . Never understood people who buy gold or sit in town and beg . My answer to them is I'll be right back with your 500 gold I'll just go out side and kill something ..... believe it or not one guy while I was out earning MYSELF money private msg me saying did you kill enough to give me the 500 g yet?

Konig Des Todes

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan

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Thats what I was thinking when I read the OP say "make a device that kept hitting the mouse."

But other then that idea, why not just come back every 8-10 hours to move around? eventually your gonna have to kill the pet your death leveling, can't hurt to set it up so your being attacked at a shrine, go to sleep, wake up, move, die/afk more, go to school/work/whatever you do during the day, mid-day, come back and move mouse, rinse wash repeat.

Ekelon

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You most likely won't get banned for that (or to rephrase, you won't get caught). Clicking repeatedly on one spot in a way that doesn't effect other players isn't such a big offense. Gaile Gray has said anet doesn't ban people who use micros to get the drunkard title.

Lord Sojar

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Well.... here is a funny issue...

I got banned for 70 hours for purchasing in game gold for real money. Only issue is... I..oh wait... didn't? I don't get it. I got Shield of Hierophant yesterday and sold it for 80k... I sold some stuff this morning for ectos, including a grim scythe and a mallyx's edge, and I had a friend give me 39 ectos the other day (they dropped them on ground, didn't even trade) I opened Zchest 55 times with my zkeys from TRPs. I don't see what I did wrong... I can't afford to spend how much money those RMT sites want for gold, it is like 200 dollars for a million gold now isn't it? So... um.. wtf?

Ekelon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by greenreaper3
im going for Legendary Defender of Ascalon, the hardest title to get besdies KoaBD titles
Is this a joke?

Alex Dimitri

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex the Great
that is the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing dumbest idea i have ever heard, please just go play a different game or quit spreading that crap around.


if they did that i know i would quit and i bet aroun 30-40% over other people would also.
Guess u don`t wanna ur favourite game to be expanded, or u just like the fact that lot of money is made black market gold sellers (and some people "wanting titles" getin` banned) the idea is not dumb, no not at all....and why would u quit ....don`t tell me let me guess....you would lose costumers.... :P

Lord Sojar

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Dimitri
Guess u don`t wanna ur favourite game to be expanded, or u just like the fact that lot of money is made black market gold sellers (and some people "wanting titles" getin` banned) the idea is not dumb, no not at all....and why would u quit ....don`t tell me let me guess....you would lose costumers.... :P
Of course, ANET bans people that power trade a little also. WTF man, I am so pissed off at them right now for my ban. They said the remove items that you buy... so if I didn't buy items, are they just gonna remove some random stuff from my storage like all my gold? I call bullshit on some of the bans. They ban first, don't bother to ask questions later, and expect you to dance like a trained poodle to get unbanned or appeal it, when it shouldn't have happened in the first place. I transfer items for people all the time! I am really getting cautious now, because this is the 2nd time I have been banned wrongfully. Dominican, one of my guildies, got an "accidental" perma ban for this same reason. He has been unbanned, but it took 3 days and it was on a special weekend (st patties). ANET are way way too crazy with the ban stick right now. I am all for keeping bots in check, but they should PM people and ask them what they are doing BEFORE they slap a ban stick on them. I am sure they can see who is trading with who, and if they PM both parties, they might find that it is an item transfer or the two are friends. Shame on you ANET.

Bowstring Badass

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Of course, ANET bans people that power trade a little also. WTF man, I am so pissed off at them right now for my ban. They said the remove items that you buy... so if I didn't buy items, are they just gonna remove some random stuff from my storage like all my gold? I call bullshit on some of the bans. They ban first, don't bother to ask questions later, and expect you to dance like a trained poodle to get unbanned or appeal it, when it shouldn't have happened in the first place. I transfer items for people all the time! I am really getting cautious now, because this is the 2nd time I have been banned wrongfully. Dominican, one of my guildies, got an "accidental" perma ban for this same reason. He has been unbanned, but it took 3 days and it was on a special weekend (st patties). ANET are way way too crazy with the ban stick right now. I am all for keeping bots in check, but they should PM people and ask them what they are doing BEFORE they slap a ban stick on them. I am sure they can see who is trading with who, and if they PM both parties, they might find that it is an item transfer or the two are friends. Shame on you ANET.
That is anet for you. Besides complaining on here won't change anything.

Meat Axe

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As a couple of other people have mentioned, you don't have to constantly be doing stuff for 10 hours. You just have to come back and move or activate a skill within that 10 hour period. One thing to be aware of though is that you do get kicked after 24 hours, no matter what (I have heard of people staying connected for longer, but I think that requires more movement than deathleveling allows...) Most of the time, however, you won't need to leave a deathlevel session going for longer than 24 hours, so that's not really an issue.

Alex Dimitri, the idea is a pretty stupid one, simply because it's not the fact that there's bots that piss a lot of people off. I think it's more the fact that real-world money trading gives an unfair advantage to those that have enough money in real life to spend it on a computer game to make them virtually rich. That is why a lot of people would quit if Anet started offering in game gold in the online store. There's also the fact that Anet would then be generating gold to give to people who buy it, and it would completely destroy the economy (I know some people may say it's pretty screwed up as it is, and I can understand why they say that, but that's not the issue).

Articus Red

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hahahaha oh my god..as i was reading the first post, i was thinking, he should get one of those things from the simpsons that homer was amazed by, then i scroll down and see a picture if it, made me laugh <3

Lord Sojar

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
That is anet for you. Besides complaining on here won't change anything.
Oh trust me, I know complaining here or on their support page does jack. Oh I know all too well. I actually am normally the one telling people how complaining here will solve nada. I just like to make it publically known when ANET blunders yet another account block. This time, the victim was none other than myself. The times I have been banned (with the exception of one other time) were deserved, or I was at least guilty of it. This one however... different story.