*Equips the "Vanguard Flame Shield of +5ness*
I'm sure this topic has been beaten like a zombie horse but I just want my opinion to be "out thar".
A lot of people hate UB for it's seemingly "game breaking" and "overpowered"ness.
See these links for what I'm talking about.
Isiah Cartwright's talk page for PvE balancing.
Ursan Blessing's wiki talk page.
This is not a planned or thought-out report. I write as stuff comes to mind.
I LOVE Ursan Blessing. Not because I "cant find a good build" (an arguement within my own goddamn alliance), my Axe Ranger does quite fine in all things PvE. But when I want speed and a failsafe group, I look to find UB groups. It's not breaking the game, it's just speed-farming.
I use the term failsafe loosely, even ursanways come across groups that sap energy and then turn everyone into pincushions.
I broke the skill down in my head yesterday, and even though my opinion of UB has not lowered at all, I begin to understand why people think it's so bad.
So here's the breakdown. You get 6 people who are now sporting 800 health or more. Put on their norn rank, they get nearly another 100. That's 900 health. Give this group two monks with an elite that makes healing spells 50% more potent. Give them a spell that heals them every time they are hit. Combined with the +20 or so armor UB also gives... Level 28's and such are hitting 6's and the players are getting healed for 30. Every time they are hit. I think I need to repeat that. Every. Time. They. Are. Hit.
So we got bitches who are one health buff away from breaking over a thousand hitpoints, armored out the ass, and untouchable, for the most part. Now let's look at the crap they're sporting.
A skill that does damage while ignoring every form of armor or damage avoidance. Not only does Ursan Strike hit twice, but it does touch damage, ignoring everything. You can do up to 140 damage every few seconds.
Not much of a weakness you say? They might get pounded you say?
That's fine, they have Ursan Rage! Physical damage (which armor DOES reduce) to every goddamn thing around you.
They also have a shout that weakens enemies and adds damage to you. IN ONE SKILL.
They also have a good speed buff.
These are just a few reasons why people hate UB. If we wanted to get into a more intricate discussion, we could talk about the economy and how it breaks the game.
And I will.
As I stated Here, "...the economy is completely normal. When there's more of something in ciruclation, it's cheaper. When there's less of something, it's expensive. Ursan Blessing is no different than godly 55/600 farmers, only UB is more team-based farming. Which is how GW should be."
I might be an asshole for saying this but how the hell can that be argued against? Gold is ALREADY unlimited by killing monsters. If we're talking real-world economy, then the argument is already moot because of the simple concept of killing stuff.
The arguement people brought forth to the game-breaking thing is that they don't want new to moderate players being "good" in high level areas getting high level areas.
Let me repeat that so it sounds a little more clear.
People don't want new to moderate players to be "good". That's all it boils down to.
Everyone wants to strut their high level crap, some set of armor that cost them 150+k to build, even though it functions the exact same way to MY set of armor that looks just as neat, but only cost me 20k for the stuff. I don't get it.
Even *IF* UB killed that, there are plenty of things you can gain satisfaction over. For one, rank title farming is only 4 or so titles. UB can't farm treasure hunter for you. UB isn't going to get you LdoA.
There are plenty of things to stroke your E-Peen over. Leave Ursan Blessing alone, for those that don't meet up to elitists goddamn standards.
My case for Ursan Blessing
CagedinSanity
Arsalan
Bravo! I love UB. Why? Cos I dont want to play an Obby Derv all the time for high lvl areas. UB means everyone can do the high lvl areas, together. If that isnt a good thing then I dont know what is. We all know that the majority of ppl that oppose UB are elitists. And to them: dont like it? Dont use it! Dont even acquire it! Want to call me a noob? Go ahead. I dont care. I know ill be having fun with 12 guildies in the Deep while ull be posting about how crap UB is...
CagedinSanity
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UB means everyone can do the high lvl areas, together. If that isnt a good thing then I dont know what is.
Normally I'd agree but I can see the logic of Anti-UB people. They want their titles and equipment to mean something, not just any ol' normal joe' running around with elite stuff.
I farm with UB, but I STILL don't want all that crap.
I farm with UB, but I STILL don't want all that crap.
isamu kurosawa
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Bravo! I love UB. Why? Cos I dont want to play an Obby Derv all the time for high lvl areas. UB means everyone can do the high lvl areas, together. If that isnt a good thing then I dont know what is. We all know that the majority of ppl that oppose UB are elitists. And to them: dont like it? Dont use it! Dont even acquire it! Want to call me a noob? Go ahead. I dont care. I know ill be having fun with 12 guildies in the Deep while ull be posting about how crap UB is...
You could have always played a decent build over crap like an obs tank. but as you state you went for ursan alone.
Arsalan
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You could have always played a decent build over crap like an obs tank. but as you state you went for ursan alone.
Before eotn came out, the only time i cud join a DoA group was if I was an obby tank. That was annoying. And when you finally did join a group, if you so much as dared to question something you'd be out. Ive tried and mastered many different builds. From the necro and monk farming builds to runners all over place. All im saying is UB allows ppl to come together and have fun. I dont think most do it for titles. They just want to have fun
CagedinSanity
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They just want to have fun
I've met some people in Ursanways who need to quit GW or quit life, so this is not altogether true.
zwei2stein
>> I begin to understand why people think it's so bad.
You began to understand and then you stopped and went to "D" variant of pro ursan stance: They don't want us to succeed too! QQ. Which is bullshit. Everyone likes to see more people that are able to play high content so that they can party with them. And you seem to have no idea when you suggest people to use lamest of lame titles to boost their ego. Or do you want to start flames with that? I guess so.
Abedeus
I wonder why in other online RPG's/HnS's/MMORPGs balancing team is able to nicely balance skill as soon as they see it's overpowered. Examples?
Bugged Guided Arrow in Diablo 2. Fixed in 1.10, thank God, amazons aren't so overpowered in PvP (at least 75% players had one with a bow and that imbalanced skill). How it was bugged? If monster was thrusted with an arrow and it went through him, arrow would just WTFPWN him until it didn't thrust another time. But since people noticed that bug, they almost all the time got megawtfdmg. And it was hard to kill an amazon in pvp, especially if they had knockback gloves (imagine - you can't move, you get knocked back all the time and you get tons of dmg in 5 seconds). Bugged Heat in Ragnarok Online. Player, thanks to the bugged skill, could deal over 1kk dmg to a boss in less than 20 seconds. Why? Skill deals dmg and causes knockback. Bosses can't be knocked back, so they receive(d) 10-40 times more dmg than normal monsters (depending on defense). Got fixed very fast, skill is still usable, but it doesn't let one player rape a helpless boss in few seconds. Bugged Implosion in Neverwinter Nights - Spell had a chance to insta-kill if target failed a very high dice roll. And even items with immunity to death magic couldn't stop it. Why? Because it wasn't Death Magic, only Evocation. Or another example from Ragnarok Online. There is a skill (was very popular, now it is only in PvP - not wise to use in pve due to costs) Acid Bomb, that deals damage depending on Vitality of target and Intelligence of caster. And again, players could level up so damn fast thanks to that... Why? Bosses used to have 130++ vitality, so it means that one player could spam 200k dmg very, very fast and only energy + amount of bottle grenades could stop him. Now they nerfed it - bosses have at most 40-50 vitality, so damage is like... 1/6 of what it used to be. What's funny, only RO has a monthly fee. Bioware and Blizzard could just say ,,hey, you payed for the game, now go to hell''. But they fixed those bugs. And we still have overpowered skill in GW. What gives? Are we inferior to other players?
CagedinSanity
*Deflects flame with shield of +5ness*
Anyone else who can refute stuff without resorting to flame-baiting, hmm, yes?
Artisan Archer
I was going to say something sensible, but then I saw your avatar and stuff... Figured there's no point (@ zwei)
Something Wickked
I see the reason that Anet made UB so good though. They want people to actually make their own gold, and therefore be wealthy enough (by game standards) to not have to buy game gold from 3rd party sites. Or at least this could be a reason to.
CagedinSanity
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Not sure what point you're trying to make, friendo.
Turtle222
i use UB in DoA because it is efficient, and it will take you two days to find a non ursan group.
i don't scold anyone for using UB, but you are better off using that than avatar of balthazaar and have me sneer at you for bringing it. UB is a safe option for those that don't want to be kicked from a group. there is really no tactic. c 1 2 1 3 1 1 2 1 1 1 3 12 1 etc etc i think the main problem for long time players is, they spent so much time doing things and it meant something to them to accomplish them. ie. doa would take ages, and it was quite a feat to do mallyx etc.However, now UB comes along and does things in half the time, with minimum casualties. do you see what i am saying? However, my arguement against this is, if you have been playing for nearly three years you would want to get things done fast right? UB, problem solved.
CagedinSanity
I've played for almost 2 years, doesn't make me anti-UB for speed.
Crescent Sky
to the OP:
You're right in what you say, and we're happy that people can now run in DoA with their mesmers and have an alternative so they dont have to be an obby derv all the time for example (just as an example), but what about those that are left with even less variety then before? I enjoyed it when i could at least choose between obby derv, sf ele or bip necro, and had to know how to play each bar differently and actualy trying to some point and not just spamming (at the very least keeping skill chains in mind, watching your energy, etc.) Now i can't run any of those. All i can do to run DoA now is load up Ursan and drum my fingers across 1, 2, 3 on my keyboard all day. Ever thought of that?
zwei2stein
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I was going to say something sensible, but then I saw your avatar and stuff... Figured there's no point (@ zwei)
Try me. Argument you never make is argument i never see, have to think about and consider and eventually refute or agree on.
CagedinSanity
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You're right in what you say, and we're happy that people can now run in DoA with their mesmers and have an alternative so they dont have to be an obby derv all the time for example (just as an example), but what about those that are left with even less variety then before? I enjoyed it when i could at least choose between obby derv, sf ele or bip necro, and had to know how to play each bar differently and actualy trying to some point and not just spamming (at the very least keeping skill chains in mind, watching your energy, etc.) Now i can't run any of those. All i can do to run DoA now is load up Ursan and drum my fingers across 1, 2, 3 on my keyboard all day. Ever thought of that? |
I focus less on the 1 2 3 button mashing, but more on the goal and what I'm actually doing the ursanway for.
Right now I'm UB-Farming Norn Rank hard mode. I play it for the rank, the loot, and the lack of difficulty in doing so.
Focus on something else while using Ursan and it doesn't seem so simple-sighted as button mashing.
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You began to understand and then you stopped and went to "D" variant of pro ursan stance: They don't want us to succeed too!. Ah! Something to reply to this: I DID say it wasn't a thought out report. It's more of a blog post than anything but I wanted to see more people reply than the other forums I go to which has very little activity.
Pyro maniac
I don't get it
Abedeus
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Not sure what point you're trying to make, friendo.
Lol. My point is why the hell A.Net allows overpowered skills to exist? Other games, regardless if with monthly fee or not, have good balances so one skill isn't better than 20 other skills. Only we have to suffer thanks to UB.
CagedinSanity
After my post and a bunch of others, that question STILL isn't answered to you?
Because it's fun. Because they want it to be there. Lurk some, there are numerous answers to that around.
Savio
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Some real-world resources are also practically unlimited, instead constrained by the rate at which they can be gained. Similarly, in Guild Wars there are limits to how much gold and items players can earn. Ursan changes this by making that limit much higher than what should be possible for a certain group of players.
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People don't want new to moderate players to be "good". That's all it boils down to.
New players? Last I checked r10 Norn wasn't handed to you at the gate. A new player would only run Ursan because all the PUGs tell him "Ursan or GTFO." The real argument is that of skill versus grind. With Ursan, grind-based players can now do the places that were formerly restricted to skill-based players. Should players who grind x amount of hours be allowed to beat any area in the game?
Abedeus
It's fun that there is overpowered skill? Dear God... Go back to mining for fishes. Any game company that supports game-breaking features is just a failure.
CagedinSanity
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The real argument is that of skill versus grind. With Ursan, grind-based players can now do the places that were formerly restricted to skill-based players. Should players who grind x amount of hours be allowed to beat any area in the game?
Why not? They're playing the game the way they want to.
isamu kurosawa
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Before eotn came out, the only time i cud join a DoA group was if I was an obby tank. That was annoying. And when you finally did join a group, if you so much as dared to question something you'd be out. Ive tried and mastered many different builds. From the necro and monk farming builds to runners all over place. All im saying is UB allows ppl to come together and have fun. I dont think most do it for titles. They just want to have fun
You mean you could only join a bad pug group as an obs tank?
Ursan has pretty much removed any chance of bad players improving by giving them an easy mode. Thats one of the reasons people complain, although it gives everyone a chance to do high end content they do it without improving, there is no skill, they use no skills but ursan. There is no area in the game a well balanced team of players who know what they are doing cannot do. Now with ursan around whenever one fo those players leaves the game they are not replaced. New players just go ursan to get a group.
CagedinSanity
Unskilled is being confused with Idiocy.
You could say I'm not that skilled if you saw me play. But I'm not a moron. I've seen ursanways get wiped because of bad pulls or just in general, morons. It's not completely easy mode. It's easier, but it still requires *some* thought. Not a lot, but some.
Pyro maniac
Read this thread again
Tyla
Some people use UB for ever_little_thing in PvE, just as a speed-up. I fail to see the logic in that, as I fail to see the logic of rushing through your average console game.
You may only use it for farming, but yeah, that's YOU. There are a heck of alot more players, who use UB only as a rush. And to your "These anti-UB'ers arguments are only because of their titles" argument, I myself just managed to finish Legendary Guardian today, with no PvE-only shit, and what can I say? Incredibly EASY. Skillless, but something to do. Titles are meaningless these days, but something to do. Anyone who really does think titles are any sense of half-decent accomplishment are, in all reality, idiots who like swinging their e-peen around.
Jenn
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Titles are meaningless these days, but something to do. Anyone who really does think titles are any sense of half-decent accomplishment are, in all reality, idiots who like swinging their e-peen around.
Maybe to the average player on Guru, that is the case. I get the feeling that the people who bother to come here and "troll" are typically people who have spent more time thinking and achieving in game, thus, here, something like r5 KoaBD doesn't seem like a big deal. But really? I'd say it IS kind of a big deal, considering the average active poster on guru is not a good sample of the type of player you'd find in a random town in GW. I can't say all the titles take an extreme level of talent, but depending the route someone chooses to get to the end, it can take some skill. Dedication is often overlooked - it takes a lot to H/H the 130~ zones in all the campaigns/expansion. I also think that some people tend to oversimplify their accomplishments when looking back, when it comes to making "some kind of point."
Anyways - with Ursan. I'm tired of this argument because neither side seems to get it. I think (some) the Ursan haters are too extreme, but I think that the regular joe who uses it for everything is missing out on some fun challenges. I'm not a huge fan of the skill myself, but I'm glad it can open up doors for people in the game that previously couldn't do something. To those who get upset at the PuG-Meta... there's always active guilds out there combating the use of the skill in their own play, that take part in elite areas, or title hunting. You're not condemned to PuG-play only. My thought about the success of Ursanway also has more to do with consumables than it does the the Blessing. To be perfectly honest, playing Ursan without consumables is very boring and not overall efficient, unless you've got 5 others, and coordinate button mashing. If you take out consumables, like celerity, or armor of salvation, Ursanway would, in MANY circumstances... fail. Feel free to refute me on this, but this is my personal observation from pugging. Tyla
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Maybe to the average player on Guru, that is the case. I get the feeling that the people who bother to come here and "troll" are typically people who have spent more time thinking and achieving in game, thus, here, something like r5 KoaBD doesn't seem like a big deal. But really? I'd say it IS kind of a big deal, considering the average active poster on guru is not a good sample of the type of player you'd find in a random town in GW. I can't say all the titles take an extreme level of talent, but depending the route someone chooses to get to the end, it can take some skill. Dedication is often overlooked - it takes a lot to H/H the 130~ zones in all the campaigns/expansion. I also think that some people tend to oversimplify their accomplishments when looking back, when it comes to making "some kind of point."
Time dedication is alot different to skill dedication.
Time dedication relies on how much free time you have on your hands, and your lifestyle in general. Not really much of an accomplishment if you ask me. Skill dedication relies on how skilled you are as a player. PvE doesn't require much skill at all to be honest, and I'm not counting PvE-only junk. All in all the AI should have been improved instead of overbuffing mobs which are still stupid and exploitable, simply stacking prots on someone being a makeshift tank messes up the enemy. The only true thing that is a problem in PvE, is groups with ALOT of Monks squeezed together and huge groups being pulled. It can be avoided quite easily all in all. Sometimes there are situations like Monks packed together which just needs a quick /Resign and go through it again, really. Let's try and keep this millionth Ursan thread atleast clean in the least.
CagedinSanity
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Anyways - with Ursan. I'm tired of this argument because neither side seems to get it. I think (some) the Ursan haters are too extreme, but I think that the regular joe who uses it for everything is missing out on some fun challenges. I'm not a huge fan of the skill myself, but I'm glad it can open up doors for people in the game that previously couldn't do something. To those who get upset at the PuG-Meta... there's always active guilds out there combating the use of the skill in their own play, that take part in elite areas, or title hunting. You're not condemned to PuG-play only.
/Debateover.
Seriously, that sums it up for both sides. Thank you for not being as biased.
SuperDave
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Should players who grind x amount of hours be allowed to beat any area in the game?
I vote no. It sucks that I prefer to beat the game in hard mode without Ursan Blessing, and use more skill to get the Dungeon reward/drops, and Johnny Ursanway can get his r8-10 ursanpug for the same reward quicker.
I feel about Ursan Blessing pretty much the same way I feel about cheating in single player games. I hate it. And using "cheat codes" and Ursan Blessing just feels so similar to me.
Bront
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Should players who grind x amount of hours be allowed to beat any area in the game?
I think the issue is not weather or not they should, but weather they should get a huge advantage over normal players.
Let's face it, there are many parts of GW that you can grind against and eventually beat. Fail at a mission long enough, you will likely learn enough to beat it, or just get lucky. I've not had a chance to play most of the Elite areas, but from what I've heard, some of them (DoA in particular), were just as bad before as they are now, but instead of looking for Ursan, it was a set of 3-4 classes with specific builds only. In this case, Ursan opens up the area to other classes that may not have normally been able to access the area. of course, a better solution would be to tweek the area to allow other classes to participate. Much like skill balances, maybe an area re-balance on occasion might not be a bad idea. Of course, people will be upset about that no matter what too ("Now it's to easy, anyone can do it!" "Now it's to hard, my PvX build doesn't work there anymore!"). I'm of no real strong opinion of Ursan at the moment. It's not a PvP skill, so it can be unbalanced without killing PvP, but PvE needs some balance too. I like the Avatar solution presented in another thread that make Raven and Volfen blessings more interesting, and balance them out a bit to where the Blessings are nice, and powerful, but not overbearing, and still require a good build. Ultimately, other players playing Ursan aren't hurting my enjoyment of the game, so I don't see it as as big an issue as everyone seems to think it is.
Richardt
Saying everyone who hates UB is an elitist is like saying every UB lover is a noob.
Most people hate UB because of two things: 1) It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overpowered. As an example, an ele friend took Ursan out in HM into Ice Flow, overaggroed and pulled 4 groups of Grawl. Using Ursan he cleared all of them WITHOUT DYING. Now if you can't see a problem there, then something's wrong. 2) It completely removes the most enjoyable part of GW-putting together team builds. Don't get me wrong-I used to be on the Ursan band wagon, but now I'm a member of the Ursan haters. Why? 'Cause there's no challenge! It's completely mindless. I am grateful that it did allow me to gain familiarity with various elite areas, but now I'm kind of wishing I had did these the normal way (which is what I'm doing on my Para). I love my PvE skills, but in terms of power, UB just towers above the rest. Yes it's supposed to be an elite PvE skill, so I am expecting some power (look at Volfen and Raven), but UB just takes to far. So until UB gets a nerf (which may/may not happen-and if it does I'm hoping it's still a viable skill, just brought more inline with the other skills) or redesign, I won't touch it-I won't even party with someone using it. And this is something that I tell everyone else-if you don't like it, don't use it. What does it matter to you that someone does use it? If they choose to miss out on the best part of GW (the builds) then that's their choice. FoxBat
I don't even care that UB has no challenge. My problem is it's completely wiped out actual teams from pugging, and encroaches enough into guild play too. There are enough overpowered pve skills to throw around that you can manage DoA etc. without ob flesh or ursans. That should be the focus of the game, at least.
zwei2stein
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Even without ursan they are problem. But Again, ursan even without consumables is problem too. Not super big problem, but more of something like SY or TNTF. Still unignorable, and still problem.
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Time dedication is alot different to skill dedication.
Time dedication relies on how much free time you have on your hands, and your lifestyle in general. Not really much of an accomplishment if you ask me. Skill dedication relies on how skilled you are as a player. PvE doesn't require much skill at all to be honest, and I'm not counting PvE-only junk. All in all the AI should have been improved instead of overbuffing mobs which are still stupid and exploitable, simply stacking prots on someone being a makeshift tank messes up the enemy. The only true thing that is a problem in PvE, is groups with ALOT of Monks squeezed together and huge groups being pulled. It can be avoided quite easily all in all. Sometimes there are situations like Monks packed together which just needs a quick /Resign and go through it again, really. Let's try and keep this millionth Ursan thread atleast clean in the least. You get not argue on that, Pve could use a LOT of AI tinkering, mob skillet tinkering and even stuff like randomized mob placement. And Ursan and related stuff make this even worse. They are move in opposite direction of what should be done. Bandaid for bad PvE design decisions. I'd rather have somewhat lame PvE with prospect of improving than very lame PvE with prospect of getting even worse.
Bluefeather
The only time i remember playing PUG is when I was just starting playing this game. Overall, I play alone. I don't care what other players do, and they don't care about what I do.
So, whether I use UB or not is not other people's business. It's mine alone. They call me noob because I use ursan? Who cares? As long as i don't bother you about how you play, let me play the way i want. If non-UB-players can finish elite areas, so be it. If you want a more challenging game, then bring only 1 skill in your bar and if you beat an elite area, Screen shot it and brag about it here. Just leave the UB users alone. Someday, they will realize how easy the game is and will try another way of playing the game. LOL now I am only using Savage Slash and Pure Strike and I was able to make it to THK using H/H, with missions and bonus and still on quest for Survivor 2. To some it is stupid, but to me it is fun. Besides, majority of players are now running ub skills (even some of those who hate UB are sometimes running UB skills  well, at I know at least one )
odly
People have allways been retarded when making pug's so everyone playing the same thing is easier to form teams. As soon as someone posted a build for an elite area everyone allways tried to form the exact same team, without allowing any creativity.
I think Anet saw this and gave us the skill that suited this attitude. Is it good ? Is it bad ? At least it gets things done, where in the past it was near impossible to find groups for elite area's with certain proffessions. And even the 'allowed' proffessions were required to use some specific build to get into pug's. Puzur
As usual when it comes to the discussion about why Ursan is destroying the game the most important issue is missed. The main problem with Ursan is that it destroyes the entire concept of Guild wars. The idea behind it is to make builds that are really good together in a team (or solo if you like) and in the meanwhile you learn how the game mechanism works and improve both your character and your skills as player (and hopefully understands how fun the game can be), and as final challenge of your skills and builds you go to the elite areas.
When Ursan was introduced it took away the entire process of developing both your gameplay and your char, and made it possible to skip the entire path and go for the end at once (elite areas). If there was a way to go from pre-seering directly to the lich quickly arena-net would decide that it needed to be stopped, but when it comes to Ursan noone does anything. I dont know if it is a last attempt to boost sales for a bad product or if there is any other motives like killing GW1 in time for the release of GW2, but Ursan is killing the idea behind the game.
zwei2stein
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As usual when it comes to the discussion about why Ursan is destroying the game the most important issue is missed. The main problem with Ursan is that it destroyes the entire concept of Guild wars. The idea behind it is to make builds that are really good together in a team (or solo if you like) and in the meanwhile you learn how the game mechanism works and improve both your character and your skills as player (and hopefully understands how fun the game can be), and as final challenge of your skills and builds you go to the elite areas.
When Ursan was introduced it took away the entire process of developing both your gameplay and your char, and made it possible to skip the entire path and go for the end at once (elite areas). If there was a way to go from pre-seering directly to the lich quickly arena-net would decide that it needed to be stopped, but when it comes to Ursan noone does anything. I dont know if it is a last attempt to boost sales for a bad product or if there is any other motives like killing GW1 in time for the release of GW2, but Ursan is killing the idea behind the game. It can be considered ill conceived attempt to introduce "operation shortbus" concept of MMOs where developers intentionally open older elite areas to more casual people when new content becomes available. Basis of why that works in them is that new content caters to people which lost content to do because of nerfs. Another reason why this works is that casual people actually have use for that older equipment, and they should get it, and elite players have new stuff to get, so noone really has reason to QQ, as its win/win scenario. In GWs there is no "replacement" content, and even if there was, gameplay degenerated in a way that it would have to be impossible to do with ursan/consumables, which means that it has to be very, very imba. Which means that once developers choose to open it they have to give casuals even more imba stuff that destroys other content even more. Basically, power creep in its finest, lack of which was major selling point of GW. At least for me. Malice Black
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