NCsoft.... hopefully not with Guild Wars

rofl that all made me lol

YAY! I can buy my way to L33T even faster!!! AND i wont get Banned for it!!!
And ill get to max out my credit card in a few weeks!!
Where do i sign up?

“...as many of our games as possible"

"...does fit perfect for some of the free-to-play"

Not to troll or anything, but a large portion of the GWGuru readers (not counting sarcastic posts) are idiots. ArenaNET aren't under NCSoft's control when it comes making games, they're more indepdenent than other studios.

Soooo, NCcoin in Gw2? I sure hope not

Amen to that statement. But, welp this is a way to combat gold sellers that's for sure. Why should people who had nothing to do with the game production get the money? I'm kinda for it an against it. I just wonder if that 100 for $1 is 100k and not just 100 gold? lol cause if it is the gold sellers have a much better price. lol

That may be true to some extent, but, NCsoft gets the final word on everything since they are footing their paychecks don't forget. So, if NCsoft wants to implement this into GW now or even GW2 they certainly can an Anet will either have to do it or break contract and get fired and NCsoft will still be able to do it.

You know there was once a chicken called 'Chicken Licken' and an acorn fell on his head, but because he was a bit stupid he thought it was the sky. He ran round telling everyone the sky was falling, and because they were stupid too them believed him
The moral of this story is don't assume anything wait for the facts and then panic if you must!

It will not be used as the business model for Guild Wars 2.

So you haven't played the game, nor been with the community long enough to know that after they made thousands of dollars from the coins, they then promptly nerfed the items? There's business then there's outright destruction.

Just to clarify; my post was sarcastic.

Exteel was and still is a free to download and play online game with a micropayment system. Micropayment is this system in which players can use real life money to pay for ingame items, and this system has already been in existence for a long time now. What the site revealed is that NCSoft plans to use this NCcoin model for their micropayment transactions, which can probably reduce some confusions in between, or at least they believe so.

And just because of this, and that the fact NCSoft published Guild Wars, people are now assuming Guild Wars will receive the same treatment. Just a note, Guild Wars is not free; we had to pay for our cd keys. Consequently, I doubt the same treatment will be applied to Guild Wars as it didn't have a micropayment system to begin with.

People complained about the items being so massively overpowered, so the developers were stuck between a rock and a hard place.

- Leave the items.
Keep the people that bought the items happy, but risk putting off new players who just cant compete against them.

- Nerf the items.
Pray it doesn't annoy the people who bought the items too much. Create a better environment for the free players, who may later become paying customers.

They went with the latter, which definately seems favorable out of the two.

Lol at the accusations of speculation and ignorance being made towards JR!

Calm down, people. GW2 is not going to be Maple Story 2.

IMO, who cares. If it is implemented, it'll be for useless items. I dont recall super uber powerful items in guild wars, just super uber rare skins. If people want to pay for super uber skins that they think is awesome and rare, more power and money to them. (Of course these same people will start to complain that too many people have the super uber skins).

Yeah right and by doing so you risk the element of truth that the sky is really falling like back when all the dinosaurs disappeared. <grin>

Old wise saying: It is better to believe and it not be so, than to not believe and it turns out it is so. <grin>

This idea has been brewing with a lot of companies, in fact I think pcgamer or some mag just did an article on it. Basically they give mmorpgs away free, then try to get you to buy exclusive content, as opposed to paying $15 a month access. It's usually something cosmetic, like armor skins or something. I suspect it won't be worth their while to do in gw1 with gw2 looming on the horizon, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this in gw2.

Notice he didn't say he was being sarcastic so welp we all know what he is now. <grin>

Yeah if it's just for gold that's one thing, but, if it's for items as well that's completely another. Selling just gold will just cause major inflation, but, selling items will just ruin the economy.

Screw that.

I've played games that revolve around that system. All of them are BS. If that becomes something that's a part of GW2, I'd probably be angry enough to consider quitting.

Paying real money for in-game cash is pretty much like them saying, "We hated people selling in-game cash for real money, so we banned all of them and decided to do it ourselves!" Not to mention that there would most likely be the addition of exclusively obtained items that might costs and arm and a leg, and also trying to hide a sort of fee into a game whose original purpose was to be without one...

No. Just effin' no.

Also known as; I don't have any evidence, data, or facts to use for the foundation of my argument.

I doubt GW2 will be involved in this.

I think when they say "free-to-play" they are talking along the lines of Dungeon Runners where you don't pay anything to play. You just download the client, create an account and play. I know you can become a paying member (i.e. pay a monthly fee) and get better weapons and skins so this new model would work well for this game as some people don't want to pay a monthly fee but, yet want access to the super cool skin or what not. This way they can pay a "one time fee" to get that skin and still not pay the monthly fee.

Anyway just my opinion.

Krat

Except it's not an arguement, it's a fact.

Even if I didn't know this, common sense would still have led me to the same conclusion.

LOL, Anet = WTF?!!?! Great, now I'm gonna get banned for buying money from NCSoft. OH THE IRONY. I don't want to sound obvious but...hypocrits mayb??

Its funny how people are scared. Even if it does happen to GW, yes, it breaks the rules of buying IG Gold/Items with real $$. However, this game is so balanced that it doesn't really matter if you bought it with real $$. Everything purchased can be found IG.

Read the other posts please. This will not affect Guild Wars 2 in any way.

[QUOTE]i thought you actually knew what was what but i was wrong as after all this time you dont have a clue.

if the words are not to large read this from the site.

and as for the store transactions the online GW store is a PORTAL to the NCsoft system requiring a master NCsoft perma link to use the GW online store through the NCsoft system.

the only ones sweating/leaving are the tip of the epeen seeing that joe casual can finally get his haircut and a nice shiney next shop over.

they own them jr not just publish

learn

So they finally get aggressive with the gold sellers, just so they can corner the market?

"We have grown to the point where if you are a MMOG player and you like the traditional subscription-based game, we have those. If you are an MMOG player seeking a free to play and download game with microtransactions, we have that. If you just want to pay for software and have lifetime play, we have that too."

Seems rather obvious that GW doesn't fit the same mold that NCcoin does. (Imagined) crisis over.

I said NCSoft does not own Guild Wars, I did not say NCSoft does not own ArenaNet. There are seperate connotations for each. Guild Wars is intellectual property belonging to ArenaNet, and NCSoft has no real creative control or control over the business model.

I can see why you might have been confused.

I thought GW needed inflation....but w/e.

Why are people freaking out about this. Seriously...
I wonder what game that would fall under?? Hmmmmmmm......



NCsoft wouldn't be that much of a dumbass. They want it's most popular game's (besides Lineage I/II) sequel to sell as much as possible. Jeff Strain himself said Guild Wars 2 would stick to its business model. There won't be any microtransactions, for that is not the Guild Wars business model (no matter how much you argue, nothing you buy in the GW Store can make your character better). He guaranteed it.

You're right. They were. But surely they'd have tested their own items? Against newer players, it was far too destructive. Now it's still powerful but also not worth what people are paying for it.

The community was previously split in two: those that would pay for power and those that refused to support a company who would allow such power. Now it's a matter of people not wanting to pay for items in case of future nerfs.

A company that wants to make money have to keep their fanbase happy and they've done just that. Unfortunately, it's a case now of free players being the happy ones while the people who have paid feel that they've been done out of their money.

But of course, from what I've read, Exteel is a beta. I'm sure they'll figure out a happy medium.

I like how NO ONE posting in this thread has actually read it.

This won't affect GW or GW2. Goddamn, people, use your heads.

wow, scared me a lot for a sec when i started reading

“NCcoin will not be retrofitted in games that have business models that do not work with a micro-transaction system. We will, however, work to have NCcoin incorporated in as many of our games as possible, and what role NCcoin will play with our future console offerings have yet to be determined. NCcoin does fit perfect for some of the free-to-play and download games we are developing, and gives players choice on how they want to play these games.”

“NCcoin will not be retrofitted in games that have business models that do not work with a micro-transaction system. We will, however, work to have NCcoin incorporated in as many of our games as possible, and what role NCcoin will play with our future console offerings have yet to be determined. NCcoin does fit perfect for some of the free-to-play and download games we are developing, and gives players choice on how they want to play these games.”

“NCcoin will not be retrofitted in games that have business models that do not work with a micro-transaction system. We will, however, work to have NCcoin incorporated in as many of our games as possible, and what role NCcoin will play with our future console offerings have yet to be determined. NCcoin does fit perfect for some of the free-to-play and download games we are developing, and gives players choice on how they want to play these games.”


“NCcoin will not be retrofitted in games that have business models that do not work with a micro-transaction system. We will, however, work to have NCcoin incorporated in as many of our games as possible, and what role NCcoin will play with our future console offerings have yet to be determined. NCcoin does fit perfect for some of the free-to-play and download games we are developing, and gives players choice on how they want to play these games.”


“NCcoin will not be retrofitted in games that have business models that do not work with a micro-transaction system. We will, however, work to have NCcoin incorporated in as many of our games as possible, and what role NCcoin will play with our future console offerings have yet to be determined. NCcoin does fit perfect for some of the free-to-play and download games we are developing, and gives players choice on how they want to play these games.”

Well considering that NC-Soft made a decision to be business partners with Sony awhile back ago, does not make this move ever so surprising. Not saying this will be implemented into GW or GW 2. Nevertheless, I never cared for the idea of having people pay money for online-virtual stuff. It’s a terrible move I think on NC-Soft part.

Paying real money for in game items? Oh lord! I hope they don't do that!

Not that it really matters, so long as they keep the current system of items (ie, you can make basic pvp gear that has perfect stats). Having prestige skins that you buy with real money doesn't really cause too many problems if, other than looking pretty, they're exactly the same as my ugly-ass "pvp swords," or a Katana I could buy from a crafter.

It's not for Guild Wars, JR wins the thread.

However, it's not pure evil as a business model anyway. People are clearly willing to pay for ingame items and gold, since RMT traders are making a killing off of it. Is it better for the creators of a game to make money from RMT trading, or for third parties vulching off of game developers? Granted, it isn't for every game, but it makes damn good business sense to try to tap into that market.

Did you read the article or the posts above you?

hi

hairstyle?

town clothes?

small plastic surgery?

earing"

a ton of non game breaking things people have been begging for.

GOTY WEAPONS IS MICRO TRANSACTION

BMP AS WELL

these are test runs for GW2 and already work.

can be fun things without being maplestory overpowered.

custom dye job you choose exact color? 4.88/9.88?

hairstyle 4.99 or 3 for 9.99? or what the mass market will accept.

let them as they will keep my fee free monthly servers running.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
WTH!
Ok, if it affects GW2, I might have to say Good-bye.
This is so like WoW.
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Yes, I read it.

Just to clear this up for toxage.So as JR said, it is a fact, this will not happen to GW2.