One issue I have with B-day presents

One thing I don't like about them is that they are all released at the same time. That means when they first come out, people who created their characters first get to sell them higher than those that have b-days later.

Maybe anet should occasionally add to the list so that characters who were made later still have a bit of a chance to get "newer' b-day presents. Also Phasing in and out presents over time could be fun to increase the randomness so someone doesn't know what he's going to get. Obviously the later birthdays would need "better" presents... but it'd still be nice if there were a little more uncertainty to the whole thing.

I think that is part of the point.

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It will get worse...

Just the perks of creating a character sooner, IMO.

First come first serve.

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That's the point of birthday presents... People who have been playing longer get them sooner. o_O

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That's the point of these presents.
A Bonus for players being there since the beginning.








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if someone gets the birthday present before everyone else that just means they've been playing longer, so it makes sense they would be awarded from a-net with getting the presents first(sticking with it from the beginning) and having the perk of selling them for the extremely inflated prices before more and more come out and they slowly drop


with this in mind...when exactly do the 3rd year minis come out

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Presents................. Should not be "sold".

From what I understand they were created for the exact reason you don't like them - as a reward for loyal players. Admittedly it does to a certain extent suck that whilst I have 2 characters approaching 36 months my next two oldest characters have only just turned 2 years old. Then again I imagine this is the same for most players out there whom have been playing since near the beginning. For those who have played since the beginning but have, over time, deleted all their original players the Birthday present system must suck royally but I'm guessing this is by far the minority.

Considering those circumstances the only change that I would ever suggest, albeit probably being too late now, is to link the birthday presents with the 'Birthdays' of when Campaigns were added to accounts. That way regardless of what characters you've created / deleted over the years you would still get a 'loyalty' reward for having played since the beginning. There would of course be much fewer minipets around (5-20% of the current amount) but had this system been implemented since the word go that wouldn't have been an issue. Another difference would be that you might have to wait longer** to get campaign specific Birthday Minipets - CE & other minipets would of course be unaffected. Considering that using this method there would be less minipets on the market it might even make sense to have bi-annual present series as well. Of course for GW it is probably too late to implement this but I suppose it could be a nice addition for GW2. A bonus perhaps for ArenaNet, or whoever makes the most profit out of Guild Wars is that it would be an additional incentive to buy extra campaigns.

**Factions based Birthday minipets would have appeared on the 28th April 2007 as opposed to the 28th April 2006 (a year after it's release as opposed to the same day). Nightfall based birthday minipets would have appeared on the 27th Oct 2007 rather than 28th April 2007, a delay of six months from actual events***. To counter such waits it would no doubt be possible to have a series of minipets 'awarded' to players as soon as they add the campaign, although in my honest opinion this defies the whole 'loyalty reward' aspect of Birthday Minipets.

***I think those dates are correct but I may be wrong.

Yes, because my 8 characters made within the first 4 months of the game should not be allowed to get the presents they add after the 5th month. Your idea screws over the people who made characters early. And 'phasing them out' means some are unable to be opbtained at all by some people.

If you simply must buy/sell mini pets, suck it up, and deal with the situation. Don't try to make it better for YOU. Mini's are not meant to be trade fodder, they are meant to be fun rewards for playing the game.

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If others get mini's first, it is because they're character has been here for so long. Either way though, the birthday presents are random, so just because they're older characters, it doesn't necessarily mean they'll get a desireable mini that people want or will sell lots for. Everyone still has a good chance at making money off of a mini, no matter if they turn that age at the beginning or later, since it's randomly generated. I think that if the 'better' birthday presents were to be given to the characters that turned of age first, over those that turn it later, then there would be a problem and people would complain. Everyone's character will turn 1,2,3 at some point and would people really think it fair that they get less of a chance at receiving a mini they desire, just because: they started playing Guild Wars at a later date, played pvp in the beginning mostly instead of caring to make a permanent character, always made/remade pve characters?

If that was true, then they would not have been made tradable or with varying rarity.

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Everything that needs to be said has been said.

/notsigned I learned the hard way not to delete my characters too quickly and still I don't think this should be implemented.

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Minipets aren't thought of by a.net as a source of income. This is the last thing that will come to their minds.

A couple of things:

1. I have some characters that are coming up on their 3rd year soon enough
2. At least some of us get duplicate minis so selling them would be nice to free up storage space
3. Some of us don't like the presents we get at all, and it isn't like we can regift them
4. Part of the fun is not knowing what you are getting... but we already know what the new minis are and there hasn't even been an announcement.
5. Changing what's available keeps it interesting for the people who are getting them and allows them to show off something new too.

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They were presents for the older players, the ones that have been around longer. They shouldn't have generated a market popularity in the first place. (The b-day ones, I mean. The PvP/CE minis are fine to sell.) They were rewards for the veterans of GW, and shouldn't be being sold anyways.

Off on tangent, I wish b-day presents said which year they are from.
(Do they already do?)

/notsigned. I agree with above post.

I am a loyal player i yust like deleting my chars alot wich leads to my oldest now being only 1 year old >.>

I just came back after a half a year - year break and I find 3 of my chars have Mini pets now xD. One of them is dah purple woot. I'm just going to end up selling all of them lol.

Each birthday minipet is from a specific series. For example Miniature Devourers are all from First Year presents whereas Miniature Aatxes are all from the Second Year series. Therefore they don't really have to tell you what year they're from.

Check either of the wikis for lists of which minipets came from which series (or other source).

I could agree with giving Miniaatures as extrmely rare rewards in Reward chest chests (both PvE and PvP ones) or being able to get them with Tournament reward points (a LOT of them), but not to this.

The mini pet does not. The present does. When you turn 1/2/3 years old, you recieve a present in your inventory. When you open it, you get the mini. The preser will say which year it is from.

What sucks is there are players who have been around since the beginning who deleted their original characters almost a year into playing because they got tired of them. Therefore, you have players who were unaware of the 1st birthday surprise and were playing their game casually as Anet intended.

I'm not agreeing with the OP though, I'm suggesting there should be some kind of compensation for first-day players who deleted characters to reroll for something a little more interesting. Like me.

Believe it or not im pretty sure when they make b-day presents they arent thinking "I wonder how much they will be able sell this one for?"

Only ones who know are those who poke around in the .dat and those who read their posts, and thats a minority. If you didn't want to be spoiled, you shouldn't have gone reading them. And its not like you'll know for sure which one you are going to get or that Anet isn't just trying to mess with some of us.

They are released when a character reaches a certain age, it just so happens that there is a common birthday for some of our characters(namely those that were created on the first day the servers went live). If that first day was instead staggered, then you would be seeing a slower release of all the minis, but as that can't be helped, this thread is moot.

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They are a reward for playing longer, so those who started playing first should get them first. Besides, your only gripe is that you can't make as much money as someone who started earlier than you. It's like saying that newbies should get 100k at character creation and more drops since someone who started earlier has had more time to farm and make money.

/notsigned. See all above posts for very valid points.

What are you guys thinking that Minis should be given out to guys that havn't played for a year/2 years etc. My ele i've had since the beginning and I got a seige Turtle first year and Aatxe second year. On my Sin I got a Jungle troll. ON my Monk I got a Mini Burning Titan . On my Old Necro (deleted) I got another seige turtle I traded for a necrid horseman. I got a pig,veresh,hydra, and a few more from trade. I feel that i like the ones i get from B Day presents better than trading because THEY ARE MEANT TO REWARD YOU FOR LOYALTY TO THE GAME AND NOT BEING DUMB AND DELETING YOUR FIRST/SECOND CHARACTERS EARLY ON.

Thank you for your time,
Balthazars Ambasadr

P.S. I am selling my Mini Aatxe for 25k so PM me if you want to buy, Ill let you know if I still have it.

Dumb? the characters weren't even a year old for many of those "dumb" players and there was no hints or warnings given to players to keep their original characters around. I made my first characters in a hurry and didn't really enjoy them after a few months, so I rerolled and lost out. I wouldn't mind some kind of reward for having a 3 year old ACCOUNT that has been active the whole time...if not minipets on each character then something else.

An idea from the first page.

As other people said, the whole point of the birthday present is to reward players for keeping their characters around. They aren't released at the same time, they are released on the date of character creation. Of course this means that a lot of presents will be available on the character creation date. If you created your character earlier, you get your present earlier.

oh please don't post so often, it might hurt you...

Leave her alone shes been busy

I'm so glad that you're concerned for my well-being. I'll take your advice to heart.

Let's see ....... 16 characters, some coming up on third birthday, a couple coming up on second birthday and the rest have been around 2+ years. Presents ..... 2 grape and the rest plain old white. So far nothing of value to even consider selling. Maybe I'll get lucky this year?

But, to the OP's suggestion .....

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