The "Deathbane" Mod

Fidelty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Royal Dutch Lions

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Hey all,

I really want to say this. The deathbane mod is useless and it makes your weapons non inscribeble. Why are they non insc???

Some1 had this b4:

Obsidian Edge of Deathbane
Swordmanship Q12
Deathbane (19%)

Pic:


The weapon has no value at all now....

More people had this? Share it with me here please...

Fidelty

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aTT!kus

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its not the deathbane mod, sometimes weapons can drop without an inscription slot just as non inscribable weapons do not have an inherent damage modifier. so to answer your question, yes it is normal and it sucks lol

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

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It leaves them inscribable. That was probably a non-inscribable weapon in the first place.

If you find a normal inscribable weapon and give it a deathbane mod and show me, I'll believe you.

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jimme

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

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Deathbane mod isn't useles =]

But it's strange that your sword is uninscr.

It's awesome in FoW like this:
' Barrage + Judge's Insight ; Vamp. Recurve Bow of Deathbane '

Fidelty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Royal Dutch Lions

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Holly, if you ID the item and it has a deathbane mod then the weapon is ALWAYS uninsc. Out of the FoW chest the weapons are always insc. There is one exception, that's with the deathbane mod....

Omnidragon42

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fidelty
Holly, if you ID the item and it has a deathbane mod then the weapon is ALWAYS uninsc. Out of the FoW chest the weapons are always insc. There is one exception, that's with the deathbane mod....
Must be an anomaly with that chest, I'm pretty sure I've seen deathbane weapons drop with inscriptions before.

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

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Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fidelty
Holly, if you ID the item and it has a deathbane mod then the weapon is ALWAYS uninsc. Out of the FoW chest the weapons are always insc. There is one exception, that's with the deathbane mod....

No that it not true. There are inscribable weapons that come with a deathbane mod too.


What DOES seem to be true is that weapons from areas that should be inscribable, IF it has no inscription at all it seems to always have a deathbane on it. (Yes, finally noticed that too after opening a lot fo Z-chests)


See the difference in the two?


What I want to know is why deathbane is the only vs mod that comes on inscribables at all. I figure if Im off killing tons of frogmen it would be nice to get a mod to help kill them, not undeads still.

Dylananimus

Dylananimus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Eternal Champions

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Omnidragon42
Must be an anomaly with that chest, I'm pretty sure I've seen deathbane weapons drop with inscriptions before.
I know for sure I've had weapons drop with deathbane, and they've been fully inscribable. From chests, and drops from monsters.

Must be an anomaly thing for sure. Maybe it happens in more places than one too, I have no idea. Never happened to me though as of yet.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

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When I get a deathbane mod, it's always on an uninscribable weapon. I never heard anything about chests in UW, FoW, or EoTN dropping uninscribable's until recent months (which is when I got one out of an EoTN chest.)

Whatever change was made, IMO, it should be reverted.

Chrono Re delle Ere

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

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The only few times I got a wep with a deathbane mod, it was also not inscribable even though it HAD to be inscribable.

Well, happening on a Obsi edge really sucks....sorry for you!

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Yeah it's not the deathbane that makes it uninscribable, some weapons just come like that. Looks like someone got gipped :P

EroChrono

EroChrono

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Netherlands

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The Zaishen Chest drops uninscribable weapons too, and if the weapon is uninscribable chances are like 75% it has a Deathbane mod on it.
There most definitely is a connecting between the two.

take_me

take_me

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

Ye, it's not the Deathbane mod that makes them uninscribable, since there are also inscribable weapons with one. But everyone agrees that most uninscribable weapons come with a Deathbane mod...

Had a Celestial Sword (Zaishen Chest), Elemental Sword, Jagged Reaver, Greater Glyphic Maul, Greater Sage Blade (Raptor Farming) in the last weeks that were all uninscribable and had a Deathbane mod.

It just happens, can't do anything about it. And at least I get a +1 on my Wisdom Title.

Yang Whirlwind

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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I got my first Elemental Sword the other day while Raptor Farming - not only was it req 13 (obviously), but it also turned out to be un-inscribable! Since Elemental Swords all drop in GWEN, they are all supposed to be inscribable,- but sometimes you get cheated.

Luckily I got a req 9 - with an inscription slot the day before yesterday!

Fidelty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Royal Dutch Lions

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I think this should be a report towards Arena Net. This is just bs...
A weapon worth normally 100+50 is now not even 10k

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fidelty
Holly, if you ID the item and it has a deathbane mod then the weapon is ALWAYS uninsc. Out of the FoW chest the weapons are always insc. There is one exception, that's with the deathbane mod....
Well there ARE Deathbane-modded items with inscriptions. I got one has a drop the other day, farming raptors in EotN; was a Jagged Reaver. Inscription AND a deathbane mod. Was crap so I merched though.

But as stated, +1 to wisdom title .

MithranArkanere

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Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Slaying mods are not useless, but they are something... PvE...

I still think that weapons should have a PvE mod slot, and those non-PvP mods should be moved there, like the +value, +salvaging and and slaying mods.

That way the Vanguard weapons could have two slots usable in PvP if anyone wants to.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

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Ageis Ascending

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Deathbane mod bug has been noted, but nothing seams to be happening about it.

shru

shru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

I'm pretty sure it's not a bug, because items can drop deathbane with an inscription (first noticed this when I got my archaic hammer several weeks ago). But, possibly due to some weird random number generator anomoly beyond my comprehension, they cannot seemingly drop uninscribable without the deathbane mod.
Strange the way it works, but I merch it all the same.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Deathbane mod is bugged. I know it, you know, and everybody who has farmed for a significant period of time.

Yes... any item can drop without an inscription slow. But if an item has a deathbane mod, it will have no inscrition slot.

Disco_Will_Not_Die

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

I don't know much about inscriptions, but let me see if I get this right.

In a game where everyone wants the absolutely best items, inscriptions are just another way to buff an item. So not only are you looking for a weapon that has the best dmg (or whatever), but your looking for a weapon that also has the best mods, best construction parts (hammer grips, bow strings, etc), and an inscription slot so you can add the best inscription to it. This way, there could not be a better weapon for that class/use.

Because your weapon doesn't have an inscription slot, it means that it can never be as good as the best weapons, and since the value for weapons below "the best" are very low since nobody wants them, your normally expensive item is now worth not as much.

Hopefully I got that right.

Bummer

I'm sure you could make some PVE noob player's day though if you gave them a good deal on it.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

This topic again...

So I repeat again:

If a weapon supposed to drop inscribable drops with a Deathbane mod, it has about 33% chance for having no inscription slot.

Yes, about 2/3 of weapons with the Deathbane mod are still inscribable.

This affects both gold and purple weapons in the same way and at the same rate. Blues don't count as they often miss inscription slots no matter what the other mods are.

OOshadeOO

OOshadeOO

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Join Date: May 2007

UK

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not only that mod its also skeleton one i just got uninsc

ShadowsRequiem

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Interesting I've noticed while doing CR that most weapons don't come with a damage mod if they have a +xx% vs monster.

Xx_Sorin_xX

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
Interesting I've noticed while doing CR that most weapons don't come with a damage mod if they have a +xx% vs monster.
Yea. Taking a complete guess, weapons have usually only one type of damage modifier for the inscription. Then when a weapon comes around that has a damage modifier that isnt the inscription part, the game messes up and won't put two damage modifiers on it, so you lose your inscription slot.

People have said they find deathbane mods with inscriptions. I have a feeling that is with mods such as "I have the power!" and the like where the damage isnt modified. This is a complete guess though.

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MithranArkanere

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I've also saw people saying that daggers, spears and scythes have no slaying mods.

But I did found an inscribed scythe with undead saying mod some time ago in the Desolation.

If there is such a bug, it must hhave hapenned after that, 3 months ago.

Jhadur

Jhadur

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
This topic again...

So I repeat again:

If a weapon supposed to drop inscribable drops with a Deathbane mod, it has about 33% chance for having no inscription slot.

Yes, about 2/3 of weapons with the Deathbane mod are still inscribable.

This affects both gold and purple weapons in the same way and at the same rate. Blues don't count as they often miss inscription slots no matter what the other mods are.
I'd argue with these numbers myself. I see alot of weapons drop that have deathbane on them and I'd say about 70% of them don't have an inscription slot when they should.

A11Eur0

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
This topic again...

So I repeat again:

If a weapon supposed to drop inscribable drops with a Deathbane mod, it has about 33% chance for having no inscription slot.

Yes, about 2/3 of weapons with the Deathbane mod are still inscribable.

This affects both gold and purple weapons in the same way and at the same rate. Blues don't count as they often miss inscription slots no matter what the other mods are.
Do you have any mathematical evidence to support this claim? Because you can read that most people claim that weapons that drop WITH DEATHBANE are always uninscribable. I will agree with this, as every deathbane modded item dropped in NF or EOTN has indeed dropped without any inscription slot.
It also affects blues...but blues as you say have a chance on their own of not having inscriptions.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

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USA

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I think anet needs to fix the deathbane mod to be inscr 100% of the time... unless its some joke that they want everyone to suffer through lol.

Mortis

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That must've sucked.

dunky_g

dunky_g

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other night got a r9 inscript katana from end Fow Chest, 20% dethbane and also inscriptable.

take_me

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
But I did found an inscribed scythe with undead saying mod some time ago in the Desolation.
Ye, some claim to have seen one.... yet there is no one in posession of one at the moment and no one has a screenshot.
A Scythe Slaying mod would be worth quite much I suppose.^^

MercenaryKnight

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Every gold deathbane item I ever got was inscriptable. However I can't remember if they came from chests or drops.

ShadowsRequiem

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xx_Sorin_xX
Yea. Taking a complete guess, weapons have usually only one type of damage modifier for the inscription. Then when a weapon comes around that has a damage modifier that isnt the inscription part, the game messes up and won't put two damage modifiers on it, so you lose your inscription slot.

People have said they find deathbane mods with inscriptions. I have a feeling that is with mods such as "I have the power!" and the like where the damage isnt modified. This is a complete guess though.
Its more to do with the inscription less items. Usually I'd get this stuff from kurz and luxon chests. No dmg mod and just a +xx% vs dragons(enter monster here)

I think i've only gotten one or two of the inscription weapons with a slaying mod on them. Which had no space for an inscription.

Age

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I have one and it is inscripable it use to be an ebon Falchion of Deathbane but it is now a shocking.

MagmaRed

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This dropped today (4/20/2008) in Secret Lair of the Snowmen.



Although I didn't take a picture, I had another item drop with Deathbane today, that did not have an inscription. It may be a bug, but it seems to be random.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

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I've gotten weapons with deathbane on them that are inscribable. It isn't something that is impossible.

Inger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xx_Sorin_xX
Yea. Taking a complete guess, weapons have usually only one type of damage modifier for the inscription. Then when a weapon comes around that has a damage modifier that isnt the inscription part, the game messes up and won't put two damage modifiers on it, so you lose your inscription slot.

People have said they find deathbane mods with inscriptions. I have a feeling that is with mods such as "I have the power!" and the like where the damage isnt modified. This is a complete guess though.
That sounds very reasonable to me. People have stated that they find weapons with a deathbane mod that also have a inscription slot... well every single one I've seen has been one with some inscription that doesn't affect damage.

GaaaaaH

GaaaaaH

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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the 19% deathbane is guaranteed on weapons that are meant to be inscribable (Colored drops from NF and GWEN). I's well known in these forums but i was also wondering why and whats wiith it?