Why has Anet made it so easy for scammers

whitedragon

whitedragon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

N/E

Does Anet not care about scammers? It is so easy for scammers that im

thinking about becoming one.I mean hell what can u do, /report and what ?

report as a (bot,leecher or my fav spammer) ooh and hope they dont know

about leaving a dis so they cant be reported woot great report system there.

Or you can go thro all the trouble at support and try to make yourself belive

they got banned.

Why cant Anet just put scammer on the /report and take that rule about

being in the same dis out?

jimme

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Mo/

^
I agree witih you =] (except for the part of becoming one yourself ..)

anyway, it sounds like you just got owned =D ?

xPIMPx

xPIMPx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Uk

Hmmm Defrosted Cat [Poo]

W/A

ummm screenshot ftw ? I know many people who have been banned using the customer support.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

A scammer preys on people gullable enough to fall for it.

billypowergamer

billypowergamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by whitedragon
Why cant Anet just put scammer on the /report and take that rule about being in the same dis out?
While putting an option for scammer in the report could be easy, the same district rule may not. Consider it like someone asking you to lick your elbow. It's not nessicarily built to work like that.

Also, I thought I read somewhere that the stance on scammers was basically "buyer beware" as they don't want to police every transaction....

LifesRestorer

LifesRestorer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

London, England

Mo/

it's not easy for scammers because the trade system is pretty full proof. unless you're a comlpete RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing moron you won't get scammed

Zydonis

Zydonis

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

Loners United [CULT]

R/

2 & a half years playing, I've never been scammed. Not needed.

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

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Scamming isn't as easy as you think. As long as you look at the trade before you click accept, you won't get scammed.

whitedragon

whitedragon

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by billypowergamer
While putting an option for scammer in the report could be easy, the same district rule may not. Consider it like someone asking you to lick your elbow. It's not nessicarily built to work like that.
Well why is it you can put someone on you friends,ignore list and not be in the same dis.

And for the record i never said i got scammed im just sick of seeing all the scammers and how easy it is for them.

It needs to be made easyer for us to report them so we can cut down on the scammers

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

Because the majority are stupid, it's not A-nets fault.

/end topic

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

It's easy for scammers because people are gullible.

If people were smart enough to look at the trade screen and not drop things outside for a screenshot cover for the recent edition of Playboy, then scammers would probably just give up.

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitedragon
I mean hell what can u do
Use common sense?

/threadover

whitedragon

whitedragon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuuda
Because the majority are stupid, it's not A-nets fault.

/end topic
Hmm your right, so i say we all become scammers and prey on the week.
its easy and it seems to be fair and ok enuff that nothing need be done.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by whitedragon
Hmm your right, so i say we all become scammers and prey on the week.
its easy and it seems to be fair and ok enuff that nothing need be done.
If you honestly think nothing is done with scammers and expect to become one yourself, please make a thread here whining about your ban. I collect stupid threads.

whitedragon

whitedragon

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
If you honestly think nothing is done with scammers and expect to become one yourself, please make a thread here whining about your ban. I collect stupid threads.
funny but i dont remember seeing to many about how i scammed and got banned but i use the search to locate them

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

3 Years never scammed or had anyone attempt to scam me.
/common sense rules

Medic

Medic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

CA

[DNR]

Mo/

Coming up on 3 years, never been scammed. Basically only morons get scammed, or possible people who play while drunk

whitedragon

whitedragon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

N/E

yes yes and i have been on for little over two years and was scammed one time my first week of playing.

so i know how it feels

Risus

Risus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

56min UW HM post-2/25 I win

FDR

A/

/report?

too easy to get them banned. MAKE A TITLE TRACK PLZ!

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Shit happens. Its a game, learn from it and move on.

There will always be people try to scam someone in any aspect of life, wether it be a game, or with some stupid pyramid bullshit in real life. Use restraint, investigate what you're doing, and learn from your mistakes.

/thread finished!

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Anet doesn't make it easy for scammers. The ones being scammed do.

Use common sense. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Triple-check before clicking "accept". Don't drop your crap on the ground outside, ever.

TheBuck

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

whitedragon, guessing youve been scammed one to many times. if thats the case dont get mad at Anet for your foolishness, ive been play for what will soon be 3 years and i have never been scammed. i think it may have something to do with just thinking.

Med E Vac

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

ArenaNet doesn't care about scammers and they seem preoccupied with real money traders to the point where it has been hurting their reputation and innocent users. For an example, a guild mate was recently banned and her account was marked for buying a couple stacks of iron with in game gold from a known real money trader in olafstead, though this guild mate did not know this user was a real money trader

I myself was recently scammed about a month ago and after reporting and going through a long fight with ArenaNet I can confirm to you that they do nothing about it. I and many others have now been having a long fight with this scammer as he continues to try and abuse other users. I haven’t discussed this much here at guru since it would be closed as I suspect this thread will be shortly.

They also don't seem to care if you buy accounts with in game gold since this scammer and others I know have done just that.

There are a few other reasons why you are seeing more scammers now:

One being the fact the game is turning into a grind game (in an effort to try and keep people playing so that it delays the inevitable ghost town guild wars is becoming).

Another is the fact people want more money for titles, pets, armor etcetera.

Finally the most glaring reason would be the awful trading system Guild Wars has, to the point where I believe it to be the worst trading system of any currently active major MMO game.

If you were scammed I suggest that you only trade with users that you trust and even then always take pictures. Otherwise use auction sites such as the quality auction site guru has here.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifesRestorer
it's not easy for scammers because the trade system is pretty full proof. unless you're a comlpete RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing moron you won't get scammed
QFT.

Best part is when I tell them someone is a scammer and buying it over 5k is too high, they still buy it for 15k, and try to sell it for other people for 20k.

How do you like that math?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

People dumb enough to get scammed aren't smart enough to use /report.

Also, you don't need a "scammer" option on a /report. An a.net employee looks over all /report cases' chat logs. They will see what happened. Just report them for... anything.

beregond

beregond

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Paladins of Eternal Truth[POET]

W/Mo

3 years playing...never been successfully scammed. I've seen through every last one attempted on me.

How about...use common sense? Don't be gullible? Research prices? Its not anet's fault. Its the stupid people who want duplicate items and sit there dropping their crap on the ground.

/end thread

whitedragon

whitedragon

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBuck
whitedragon, guessing youve been scammed one to many times. if thats the case dont get mad at Anet for your foolishness, ive been play for what will soon be 3 years and i have never been scammed. i think it may have something to do with just thinking.
Hmmmm is this the same thing as not bright enuff to read all the posts before

you post.....kind of thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Also, you don't need a "scammer" option on a /report. An a.net employee looks over all /report cases' chat logs. They will see what happened. Just report them for... anything.
Thats good if its true but if they leave the dis it wont work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Med E Vac
ArenaNet doesn't care about scammers and they seem preoccupied with real money traders to the point where it has been hurting their reputation and innocent users. For an example, a guild mate was recently banned and her account was marked for buying a couple stacks of iron with in game gold from a known real money trader in olafstead, though this guild mate did not know this user was a real money trader

I myself was recently scammed about a month ago and after reporting and going through a long fight with ArenaNet I can confirm to you that they do nothing about it. I and many others have now been having a long fight with this scammer as he continues to try and abuse other users. I haven’t discussed this much here at guru since it would be closed as I suspect this thread will be shortly.

They also don't seem to care if you buy accounts with in game gold since this scammer and others I know have done just that.

There are a few other reasons why you are seeing more scammers now:

One being the fact the game is turning into a grind game (in an effort to try and keep people playing so that it delays the inevitable ghost town guild wars is becoming).

Another is the fact people want more money for titles, pets, armor etcetera.

Finally the most glaring reason would be the awful trading system Guild Wars has, to the point where I believe it to be the worst trading system of any currently active major MMO game.

If you were scammed I suggest that you only trade with users that you trust and even then always take pictures. Otherwise use auction sites such as the quality auction site guru has here.
Thank You someone who sees what i see

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

While all these "don't get scammed" messages are all fine and dandy, it IS a poor report system that doesn't give good choices for the reason and doesn't allow the name THAT YOU TYPED IN! to be accepted for some stupid "not in district" reason.

OP is perfectly correct in suggesting this

/signed

whitedragon

whitedragon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fay Vert
While all these "don't get scammed" messages are all fine and dandy, it IS a poor report system that doesn't give good choices for the reason and doesn't allow the name THAT YOU TYPED IN! to be accepted for some stupid "not in district" reason.

OP is perfectly correct in suggesting this

/signed
Thank You for seeing the point of this.

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

scammed for being stupid = fail.

Ripping a scammer off = Win button

Just dont be gulliable enough to think somethin's too good to be true.

As someone's already said. Check it 3 times.

nuffsed

/threadclose

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

Mo/

I got scammed... when I clicked on this thread.

xxDEEDSxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Scamming is in no way easy in this game. let me give you a run down of the trade system.

trader puts something in, he submits offer, you see it, you think that its not fair you click decline...OR you see that it is a fair you put in your money/item you click submit offer, you both accept and walk away happy...IF he changes something you get a very nice big red box in his window SAYING he changed something. at which point you see if you or he made a mistake to see if hes trying to mess with you...This system is perfect and nothing is worng with it as long as you check both screens to see if there right.

The Red Messenger

The Red Messenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

America

can you imagine the flood of false scam reports they would get?

every angry trader that paid 20k too high would report because he cant tell the difference between a scam and a hiked price tag.

and all the tired gamers that would get reported because they didnt put the exact amount in the window teh first time by accident...

they made it hard to report because they dont have the manpower to sort thru millions of claims

whitedragon

whitedragon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

N/E

WOW ok i got to ask it. Out of all you 3 years ive neeeeeveeeer been

scammed folks how many have you scammed?

I love how when any one makes a thread about trying to make a better way to do something you get all this hate but yet i see many threads about how this is broke or that is fail

ursan anyone

xxDEEDSxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Red Messenger
every angry trader that paid 20k too high would report because he cant tell the difference between a scam and a hiked price tag.
Hes also right heres a news flash to some people out there paying to much for a item is your own fault and no one elses.

xxDEEDSxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

this isnt someone trying to make something better though its more of a complaint

fusa

fusa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Med E Vac
Otherwise use auction sites such as the quality auction site guru has here.
I hope you're being sarcastic about guru auction site being quality, the system is just as bad as in game. 70-90% bids I've received from people were never honored. Mostly just to raise the price of their own items, to mess with people or some other idiotic reason. Many times I've had b/o's and contacted the person 10 minutes after posted and set to ignore. Some people are allowed to make 4 threads in 24 hours selling the exact same item with nothing being done even after being reported. While others bump 10 minutes early and are banned.

UnKn0wN415

UnKn0wN415

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bay Area

Looking 4 PvP Guild!

R/

do you need A-net to hold your hands...

scamming is stupid but only an idiot will get scammed...

whitedragon

whitedragon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDEEDSxx
this isnt someone trying to make something better though its more of a complaint
Your right it is a complaint with a way to make it better.

Put scammer in the /report and take out the rule you have to be in the same dis to do so

o m g pizowned

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

if your definition of a scammer is someone asking 100k for something, or buying an item for a low price..then QQ.
people enable scammers.