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Andrew Patrick

ArenaNet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Washington

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Mo/

27 Apr 2008 at 04:50 - 1

I want to express my deep regret for causing an issue within the community by giving my 3rd year minipet to a friend of mine. I logged in just for a quick second to check on the end-run fixes, saw I had a pet, and since I’m not a collector, I gave it to a friend. It was a quick decision and, in hindsight, was a really really bad idea.

I understand using my position as a developer to give myself or my friends an in-game advantage is wrong as is giving them unreleased information or items and I would never intentionally do that. I want to stress the fact that I did not spawn this pet or make it appear using dev commands. That isn’t even possible. I was mistaken about the start date of the Early Access event back in ‘05 and didn’t realize my /age wasn’t synching up with the exact start-date of that event. When the pet appeared on my account on Friday I thought it was just because of the event, and thus, was a wide-spread occurrence. It didn’t even occur to me that my character might be a day older than most other players’ since I thought it’s age had been reset at the start of the event.

As soon as I heard that I had jumped the gun I did everything I could to rectify the situation. I got the pet back immediately and have kept it locked up in my inventory since. This was a very stupid mistake based on my own confusion, I am very sorry, and I assure you this will never happen again.

Much <3

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

D/

27 Apr 2008 at 04:51 - 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

I want to express my deep regret for causing an issue within the community by giving my 3rd year minipet to a friend of mine. I logged in just for a quick second to check on the end-run fixes, saw I had a pet, and since I’m not a collector, I gave it to a friend. It was a quick decision and, in hindsight, was a really really bad idea.

I understand using my position as a developer to give myself or my friends an in-game advantage is wrong as is giving them unreleased information or items and I would never intentionally do that. I want to stress the fact that I did not spawn this pet or make it appear using dev commands. That isn’t even possible. I was mistaken about the start date of the Early Access event back in ‘05 and didn’t realize my /age wasn’t synching up with the exact start-date of that event. When the pet appeared on my account on Friday I thought it was just because of the event, and thus, was a wide-spread occurrence. It didn’t even occur to me that my character might be a day older than most other players’ since I thought it’s age had been reset at the start of the event.

As soon as I heard that I had jumped the gun I did everything I could to rectify the situation. I got the pet back immediately and have kept it locked up in my inventory since. This was a very stupid mistake based on my own confusion, I am very sorry, and I assure you this will never happen again.

Much <3

You've forgotten one thing. I just started using Kitten Cannons again.

Thanks Patrick, nice apology, clears things up a bit.

UnKn0wN415

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bay Area

Looking 4 PvP Guild!

R/

27 Apr 2008 at 04:53 - 3

Your human and humans makes mistake...

Big_Daddy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Big Daddy Experience [BigD]

N/Mo

27 Apr 2008 at 04:55 - 4

Man, no harm done from where I stand.

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

27 Apr 2008 at 04:56 - 5

Thanks for clearing everything up. We all had suspicions so it's nice to know what actually happened. - I'd blame Wasabi more than you though for causing the general scare of dev abuse. If he had just waited a few days to try to sell it rather than jumping the gun and trying to make a ton of cash, this whole thing could have been avoided.

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

27 Apr 2008 at 04:57 - 6

"To err is human, to forgive divine"

On that note, why don't we move on and try to enjoy the rest of the festival?

Go-go Dragon Arena!

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

27 Apr 2008 at 04:58 - 7

It's all good. Sh** happens. I had a feeling it was an honest slip-up.

Only thing is, someone should make sure Regina's got the right info before she goes trying to PR things up. It was a common issue with Gaile, and why so many attacked her personally. I just don't want to see the same things happening to the new girl. All I ask

EDIT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by [DE

]Thanks for clearing everything up. We all had suspicions so it's nice to know what actually happened. - I'd blame Wasabi more than you though for causing the general scare of dev abuse. If he had just waited a few days to try to sell it rather than jumping the gun and trying to make a ton of cash, this whole thing could have been avoided.

Totally agree - Wasabi was the one who really screwed up, not Andrew.

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

27 Apr 2008 at 04:58 - 8

Don't tell the higher ups.

Sorn Xarann

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

27 Apr 2008 at 04:59 - 9

Anyone know what Andrew got? lol

The Little Viking

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

innergalactic gargleblasters

W/Mo

27 Apr 2008 at 05:00 - 10

Since a majority of us already know what the 3rd year pets are gonna be....what did you get?

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

27 Apr 2008 at 05:00 - 11

Appreciate you stepping up.

travis ranger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Get Money

W/A

27 Apr 2008 at 05:00 - 12

haha atleast you admitted your mistake

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

27 Apr 2008 at 05:00 - 13

Wasn't it a Cave Spider?

Andrew Patrick

ArenaNet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Washington

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Mo/

27 Apr 2008 at 05:01 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorn Xarann

Anyone know what Andrew got? lol

Just the cave spider thingy. My Fiance is deathly afraid of spiders so I can't even use it haha.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

27 Apr 2008 at 05:03 - 15

No worries, I know it was just a mistake.

And yes........Spiders are FTL in real life. *checks if one is on me*

Sorn Xarann

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

27 Apr 2008 at 05:05 - 16

Thx for quick response andrew!

Also, i also forgive you.

Pure Disasta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

27 Apr 2008 at 05:05 - 17

No apologies accepted no mistakes made that is spartan law.

Derrick the Nomad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Gear Trick

E/R

27 Apr 2008 at 05:06 - 18

You shouldn't even have to apologize for such a silly event.

I've gotten my mini norn bear already as well: people just need to deal -it's minipets for crying out loud.

People need to calm down and stop throwing accusations at the tip of a hat.

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

27 Apr 2008 at 05:08 - 19

I am fine with everything you mentioned... but...:

You still should have left it in your inventory or storage. If I found something that wasn't mine, I certainly wouldn't decide to give it to someone else.

Shai Lee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Somewhere

27 Apr 2008 at 05:10 - 20

Not a mini-pet collector? You stab my heart, Andrew! I love them. *giggles*

It's good to know what exactly happened, because you know the community, we have big imaginations. :P

Also, from a techie standpoint, I suppose it's good that you got your present early, that way you can check if there were any bugs with the birthday present. Imagine the outcry from 3rd year present holders everywhere if for some reason their present didn't open or like...a mini whiptail devourer spawned from year one instead...:P *drops a doom rune!*

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

27 Apr 2008 at 05:11 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

As soon as I heard that I had jumped the gun I did everything I could to rectify the situation. I got the pet back immediately and have kept it locked up in my inventory since. This was a very stupid mistake based on my own confusion, I am very sorry, and I assure you this will never happen again.

If you took the minipet back into your inventory, then how did Wasabi sell it for the buyout?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...+Cave+Spid er

Wasabi sold it for the buyout.

If that part of your post was a lie, then I wonder what other parts are also lies.......

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

27 Apr 2008 at 05:12 - 22

I heard he bought it back immediately from the buyer.

Auron of Neon

cool story bro

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mililani

yumy

27 Apr 2008 at 05:12 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derrick the Nomad

You shouldn't even have to apologize for such a silly event.

I've gotten my mini norn bear already as well: people just need to deal -it's minipets for crying out loud.

People need to calm down and stop throwing accusations at the tip of a hat.

Accusations of what, exactly? People knew AP gave this minipet to a guildie. The guildie, wanting to make a quick dollar (or several thousand, in this case), sold the item instead of holding onto it. I'd say this reflects more on the poor actions of the guildie than Andrew Patrick.

Hopefully everyone knows not to give anything to said guildie in the future - it'll just get sold immediately.

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

27 Apr 2008 at 05:14 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auron of Neon

Hopefully everyone knows not to give anything to said guildie in the future - it'll just get sold immediately.

Agreed and between his horrible sense in fashion (dread mask+fow armor+chaos gloves?

) coupled with the hooplah created when he sold the darn thing, he should be the one to blame, not AP.

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

27 Apr 2008 at 05:14 - 25

The minipet was bought back if I remember correctly. So in fact he did not lie, and got it back ASAP from Wasabi once Wasabi reclaimed it from the person who bought it.

And thank you Andrew for stepping up and informing us of what happened.

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

27 Apr 2008 at 05:15 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auron of Neon

Accusations of what, exactly? People knew AP gave this minipet to a guildie. The guildie, wanting to make a quick dollar (or several thousand, in this case), sold the item instead of holding onto it. I'd say this reflects more on the poor actions of the guildie than Andrew Patrick.

Hopefully everyone knows not to give anything to said guildie in the future - it'll just get sold immediately.

You sell a minipet ASAP! In case you haven't noticed minis DECREASE in price.
You flip your mini, get hundreds of additional ectos. After a few months you buy another mini for half the price.

Who would pass up free $? No one with half a brain.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

27 Apr 2008 at 05:16 - 27

Perhaps you should reevaluate your definition of friendship. Clearly, some people care more about pixel funds than the integrity and reputation of those who consider them comrades.

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

27 Apr 2008 at 05:17 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxage

You sell a minipet ASAP! In case you haven't noticed minis DECREASE in price.
You flip your mini, get hundreds of additional ectos. After a few months you buy another mini for half the price.

Who would pass up free $? No one with half a brain.

Yeah but he should have known the uproar it would have caused within the community for obtaining and selling a mini long before the date at which everyone was told they would be receiving theirs. It's not rocket science folks...

EDIT: Hi Wasabi.

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

27 Apr 2008 at 05:20 - 29

I'd have done the same thing in your position. Only, I'd have chosen a more trustworthy friend.

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

27 Apr 2008 at 05:22 - 30

People are so angry over a little picture >__<

I forgive you, I didn't even know/care

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

27 Apr 2008 at 05:23 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer

Perhaps you should reevaluate your definition of friendship. Clearly, some people care more about pixel funds than the integrity and reputation of those who consider them comrades.

Agree'd, even if Andrew didn't care if he sold it, that was my first thought.

Drelias Melaku

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Avatar by unsolvedenigma.deviantart

Denizens of the Underdark [Nite]

N/Me

27 Apr 2008 at 05:23 - 32

I think I saw him trying to sell that spider early... In Kamadan, was it?

Anyway, as people have said, we blame Wasabi.

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

27 Apr 2008 at 05:24 - 33

The biggest casualty is the reputation of that seller ("friend"). For good reason I might add.

He's often seen in K1 selling high end minis/items. I'm not going to be the only one rolling my eyes, and wondering who "gave" him that next item he has for sale.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

27 Apr 2008 at 05:24 - 34

I kinda had a feeling that is what went on.
-it's all good. Ty.

Andrew Patrick

ArenaNet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Washington

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Mo/

27 Apr 2008 at 05:26 - 35

It's really not Wasabi's fault. Neither of us realized I shouldn't have had it yet, and I was the one who really should have thought about it, not him. I did not specify that he could not or should not sell it, and once I got in touch with him and told him about the big "oops" he very promptly got it back for me. I mean within 5 minutes, I was quite impressed actually heh.

Auron of Neon

cool story bro

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mililani

yumy

27 Apr 2008 at 05:29 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Patrick

I did not specify that he could not or should not sell it...

You shouldn't have to.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

27 Apr 2008 at 05:30 - 37

I think it might be too late(reputation wise) for that certain someone in a lot of people's (guru) eyes.

Drelias Melaku

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Avatar by unsolvedenigma.deviantart

Denizens of the Underdark [Nite]

N/Me

27 Apr 2008 at 05:30 - 38

I'm sure you're aware of when he wanted to sell your mask? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10266867

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

27 Apr 2008 at 05:32 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drelias Melaku

I'm sure you're aware of when he wanted to sell your mask? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10266867

Wow.. no comment on the hat part.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

27 Apr 2008 at 05:32 - 40

Greed is much harder to forgive than an honest mistake made in the spirit of giving, Andrew. You gotta admit that much. Being a trader that is 'in the know,' and even saying "This is prolly the first in game!" is enough to realize he knew what he had, even if you didn't.

Yes, it's quite easy to blame Wasabi, IMO.

EDIT: Two posts above me... wow. I guess that is a great show of character.