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Chronos the Defiler

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28 Apr 2008 at 05:28 - 41

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Originally Posted by Articus Red

lol im not trying to bash gw2 in saying they copied WoW cause my personal game of choice is GW over WoW. But whenever I see norn's using bear forms it reminds me of druids in WoW

Druids in WoW? How about take a huge leap backwards in time and think about Druids in Diablo 2?

Articus Red

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28 Apr 2008 at 06:16 - 42

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Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler

Druids in WoW? How about take a huge leap backwards in time and think about Druids in Diablo 2?

ah well i've never played diablo. I know the majority of the things didn't originate from WoW. I just haven't played the other games to compare them to, so therefore I just compare it to a popular game. I think though the first time i was introduced into an online RPG game was Phantasy Star online i think? I was like 13 or maybe like 14 haha I don't remember but the whole concept of playing an RPG online with other people amazed me. But then I learned about the pay to play

go no subscription fee! haha but yeah back on topic

I'll probably be a sylvari or a humann

Punio4

Ascalonian Squire

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Croatia

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28 Apr 2008 at 06:24 - 43

I just hope that the new races won't be something WH/DnD-ish:

"The Sylvari have an innate bond with plants, and each other. They call this the Dream of Dreams. However, concealed within the Dream of Dreams are nightmares, something which the Sylvari do not yet understand. They are beings of light as they have yet to be corrupted by the knowledge of sorrow, suspicion, or hatred."

Dark Elv... Err Sylvari, anyone?

Also if anyone remembers what the asura were in utopia...
A creepy race of primitive underground dwellers... Maybe an asuran sub-fraction?

Hope they don't use those.

Bront

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

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28 Apr 2008 at 07:53 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punio4

Dark Elv... Err Sylvari, anyone?

You should be beaten for this suggestion. Repeatedly, with a heavy object.

But dark elements of a race aren't a new concept. Heck, we have the Stone Summit Dwarves, most of the Charr initially, etc...

That dark dream stuff could be a hint at potential evil in the race, or possibly part of the corruption of the world in some other fashion.

Ultimately, I wouldn't be suprised if expansions allowed for an extra race to be playable. Centaurs, Tengu, Dwarves (yes, i can see them coming back), there's several options in the current timeline, and possibly more later. Only dwarves and humans are from canned fantasy (Well, Centaurs are too, but they're rarely a playable race).

zwei2stein

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Europe

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28 Apr 2008 at 08:16 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punio4

"The Sylvari have an innate bond with plants, and each other. They call this the Dream of Dreams. However, concealed within the Dream of Dreams are nightmares, something which the Sylvari do not yet understand. They are beings of light as they have yet to be corrupted by the knowledge of sorrow, suspicion, or hatred."

Emerald Dream? Wanna bet that that nightmare is some kind of green dragon?

Devs need to play less of WoW.

Punio4

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28 Apr 2008 at 08:30 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bront

You should be beaten for this suggestion. Repeatedly, with a heavy object.

But dark elements of a race aren't a new concept. Heck, we have the Stone Summit Dwarves, most of the Charr initially, etc...

That dark dream stuff could be a hint at potential evil in the race, or possibly part of the corruption of the world in some other fashion.

Ultimately, I wouldn't be suprised if expansions allowed for an extra race to be playable. Centaurs, Tengu, Dwarves (yes, i can see them coming back), there's several options in the current timeline, and possibly more later. Only dwarves and humans are from canned fantasy (Well, Centaurs are too, but they're rarely a playable race).

It ain't a suggestion :P Rather an anti-suggestion.
And I know that dark elements aren't a new concept... But I just hope that they dont use the whole "Dark times" to come up with such cliché "races".
Anyway here's some nice shots of the original asura concept (Utopia prolly):

Hope they don't use these, pair them up with the current and get some goblin/skaven hybrid.

As for the dwarves;
I truly don't see a place for dwarves anymore.
They were always a "Ruff-tuff" ale-drinking race with sprinkles of ingeniuity.
Now we have the Norn to fill that gap, charr to some extent, and the asura for their tinker-ish nature.
I love the Guild Wars lore and races. Why?
Because it's one of the very few fantasy settings WITHOUT your generic Orcs, Elves and Dwarves.
The last one was "cleaned up" in the last chapter.

Now let's keep that originality without adding dark/blood/chaos/twilight/genericevilsoundingterm races.

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

28 Apr 2008 at 09:22 - 47

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Originally Posted by Toxage

I haven't played any other races than the ones mentioned above. GW2 is still has a long way to go in development so if anything changes I'll be sure to post it here and update the wiki.

Even if you were playing GW2 as a beta tester, you'd have to sign an NDA. If you don't know what it means, look it up.

So, if you are testing GW2, and what you say is true, you're breaking the NDA and you can get a lawsuit. Seeing how you probably don't want that, everything you said is a lie and you're an idiot.

Next.

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

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28 Apr 2008 at 14:28 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Tengu would be cool. So would Naga.

I don't know...playing Naga rings a bit like playing the Grawl. Even the Heket seem smarter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punio4

Hope they don't use these, pair them up with the current and get some goblin/skaven hybrid.

Now let's keep that originality without adding dark/blood/chaos/twilight/genericevilsoundingterm races.

If they up and changed the way the Asura look I'd be pretty turned off by it. They might use those concepts to come up with the way several classes look, eg. the face paint on an Asuran Ritualist. The Asuran race is incredibly smart, though, and Anet has suggested that they would be a neutral race.

Granted there are good/evil sides to the Charr, humans and Dwarves, but if we see Dark Sylvari and Asura, I'll be surprised.

BenjZee

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28 Apr 2008 at 14:32 - 49

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Emerald Dream? Wanna bet that that nightmare is some kind of green dragon?

Devs need to play less of WoW.

Um yes, where did you read this emerlald dream crap. if they were to dream about a dragon what a generic idea, c'mon WOW are not original (i dont care if they are 2 ex-blizzard emplyeese). I will end this and say neither is gw to be honest.
They are completly different games but ofcouse some concepts are not original, what ideas are nowadays?

Breakfast Mc Rit

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28 Apr 2008 at 15:03 - 50

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

Um yes, where did you read this emerlald dream crap. if they were to dream about a dragon what a generic idea, c'mon WOW are not original (i dont care if they are 2 ex-blizzard emplyeese). I will end this and say neither is gw to be honest.
They are completly different games but ofcouse some concepts are not original, what ideas are nowadays?

Seriously. WoW caters so well to fantasy fanatics that when a game like Guild Wars borrows something so blatantly generic like shape-shifters or the dragon dream, as you mentioned--because who hasn't heard of the oh so original concept of a harbinger dream?--they boast an aura of superiority 'cause GW so totally ripped on WoW.

Chasing Squirrels

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28 Apr 2008 at 20:39 - 51

Are these new races gender specific because I can not imagine how the female char would look like.

draugr

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28 Apr 2008 at 21:03 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler

Druids in WoW? How about take a huge leap backwards in time and think about Druids in Diablo 2?

Or Adventurer morph forms in Anarchy Online.

Dru Stratas

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28 Apr 2008 at 21:06 - 53

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Originally Posted by ntherblast

Are these new races gender specific because I can not imagine how the female char would look like.

Nope, thus far the only gender specific proffesion is Sylvari. That is still subject to change though; the only evidence we have is a concept art.

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

28 Apr 2008 at 21:10 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dru Stratas

Nope, thus far the only gender specific proffesion is Sylvari. That is still subject to change though; the only evidence we have is a concept art.

WRONG - See below

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntherblast

Are these new races gender specific because I can not imagine how the female char would look like.

There are female and male genders for all races in GW2.

Nazar Razak

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28 Apr 2008 at 21:14 - 55

how would you know?

Alex the Great

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28 Apr 2008 at 21:17 - 56

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Originally Posted by NoXiFy

We know TOO much about how the Norn will make the came easy as pie gogo ursan go. Than, we have humans... which I think we all know a little about

. Than we have the hood ole Charr which are gonna be seen as much as pve mesmers if they dont balance Norn.)

how can you say that Norn are imbalanced.....THE GAME ISN'T OUT YET!
we know nothing about it, and i for one am gonna make a charr as my main without a doubt.

it's fine we haven't seen a Silviari, new concept art will come out soon (eventually, but who's counting

)

edit: I thought that the dream of dreams was the thing that allowed Silviari to know how to do things without being taught when they are born? Let me check on this.

Elena

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28 Apr 2008 at 21:20 - 57

Norn female ele

bouncy bouncy...

Sleeper Service

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28 Apr 2008 at 21:21 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit

Yeah, I believe we pretty much saw the end of the Dwarves with the conclusion to EotN. Most turned to stone and went goofy. I wonder what happened to the Stone Summit, though...

(...)

yeah i wondered about that myself.

seems like dwarves can resist the call to transform...for some time.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10233384

wiki says "The Dwarves, who pursued the Destroyers deep and long at the end of Eye of the North, are now deathless creatures of stone; the few who remain watch the ages go by, interacting little with the other sentient races, if at all."

but the wiki is a lie.

Chrono Re delle Ere

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28 Apr 2008 at 21:33 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elena

Norn female ele

bouncy bouncy...

Ahah, can't wait to see that dancing xD [perv mode off]

Btw, yea I hope there won't be particular bonuses for each race, since I don't want to make a character and then have to make a different one since the race I chose is not very suitable for that profession or whatever....

The thing that worries me are armors....I will surely chose a race just to notice that all other ones have cooler armors for that class....meh

Alex the Great

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28 Apr 2008 at 22:01 - 60

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Originally Posted by Chrono Re delle Ere

Ahah, can't wait to see that dancing xD [perv mode off]

Btw, yea I hope there won't be particular bonuses for each race, since I don't want to make a character and then have to make a different one since the race I chose is not very suitable for that profession or whatever....

The thing that worries me are armors....I will surely chose a race just to notice that all other ones have cooler armors for that class....meh

don't worry, from what I have heard, all the classes will be able to play all professions on an equal playing field, with some general buff/skill/trait that benefits all proffesions

ie: Norns will have forms (bear form confirmed)

I be humans will have some shout based buff that helps the group (we have seen the buffing power of the battle standards). Ausuran will probably have some speed/casting/attacking buff skill. Charr and Silviari i have no clue on however.

please don't get angry at my specualtions

Dru Stratas

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28 Apr 2008 at 22:17 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxage

WRONG - See below

There are female and male genders for all races in GW2.

Not that I dont like the sound of being able to play a male Sylvari, cos I really do; do you have any evidence? - I've only seen the concept art as a female, and all of the sylvari have been refered to "she" so far...

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

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28 Apr 2008 at 22:38 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit

I don't know...playing Naga rings a bit like playing the Grawl. Even the Heket seem smarter.

iirc, Nagas are intelligent and used to be on good terms with humans according to the Factions manual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit

but if we see Dark Sylvari and Asura, I'll be surprised.

Dark Asura wouldn't surprise me in the least, you ever listen to those guys?

Free Runner

Forge Runner

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28 Apr 2008 at 22:46 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dru Stratas

Not that I dont like the sound of being able to play a male Sylvari, cos I really do; do you have any evidence? - I've only seen the concept art as a female, and all of the sylvari have been refered to "she" so far...

I remember Gaile saying she had seen concept art for the Sylvari male. It was somewere on wiki (possibly on the Sylvari talk page or her own talk page)

Alex the Great

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28 Apr 2008 at 22:53 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

Dark Asura wouldn't surprise me in the least, you ever listen to those guys?

/cue comically cute antagonist asuran.

HawkofStorms

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28 Apr 2008 at 23:23 - 65

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed

How could they be sear when they were born in GW:EN?

Time traveler. Duh.

Centaurs are also clearly intellect enough to be a player race (look at Zhed). Still, I wouldn't hold by breath for anything but the bare miniumum currently promissed.

Nevin

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29 Apr 2008 at 00:10 - 66

I think I found some early concepts of Syvalri, found in this thread of Guild Wars: Utopia concept art. (The unreleased fourth chapter of Guild Wars) http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=108591

I believe these to be Syvalri, the ears only really.

On a side note, maybe Norn in GW2 will be able to shapeshift into more than just bears?

Wolfway? Pigway?

wraithe

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29 Apr 2008 at 04:50 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevin

I think I found some early concepts of Syvalri, found in this thread of Guild Wars: Utopia concept art. (The unreleased fourth chapter of Guild Wars) http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=108591

I believe these to be Syvalri, the ears only really.

On a side note, maybe Norn in GW2 will be able to shapeshift into more than just bears?

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=227860&stc=1&d=1193681 954

Wolfway? Pigway?

i am not sure about any of that...

what i am sure about is...i want that sword

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

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29 Apr 2008 at 14:14 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Might it be that the Sear is actually a Sylvari?

Would make for a rather unappealing class to look at but that wont stop everyone from playing

Seariously, if the Sylvari are meant to be elves then we know what they will look like. The stereo typical thin human with long pointed ears.

I think the sylvari are supposed to be more like Dryads than Elves. I think they're even supposed to be considered senient plants that happen to look humanoid.

ShadowStorm

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29 Apr 2008 at 14:19 - 69

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Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit

Yeah, I believe we pretty much saw the end of the Dwarves with the conclusion to EotN. Most turned to stone and went goofy. I wonder what happened to the Stone Summit, though...

I think I remember reading somewhere in EotN that the Stone Summit were almost all gone after they got defeated at Sorrow's Furnace. What was left of their ranks all headed North and what we saw of them in EotN was all that was left of them.

Breakfast Mc Rit

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29 Apr 2008 at 14:24 - 70

Thanks so much for that link to the concept art! I nearly messed in my pants with awe and joy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

iirc, Nagas are intelligent and used to be on good terms with humans according to the Factions manual.

I learn something every day. Even then, they seem to have been driven to extreme aggression and savagery. But for all I know, they could be planning to return in some form, what with all the vicious attacks on anyone that gets too close.

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

Dark Asura wouldn't surprise me in the least, you ever listen to those guys?

Yeah, they can be very selfish and condescending. Their high intellect can only lead me to believe that they understand the need to be neutral. After all, a poor warrior abandons his best weapons, not to mention turn them against him. I have the slight feeling that the Asura are going to be playing us all for chumps.

Milea

Ascalonian Squire

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29 Apr 2008 at 14:40 - 71

Well I know I saw a glimps of the tree during the end game cut scene. I'll bet they will go with Sylvari because if they went with dwarfs they would be going against the actions in GW1. If I understood that correctly the dwarves are now to disappear into the earth because they are at the end of their race time, forever to be stone. However I think an elven like race would be a great addition to the world of GW.

I'd also like to throw in that it would be awesome to play as an undead

tmr819

Krytan Explorer

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29 Apr 2008 at 14:48 - 72

I think it would be interesting to be able to choose a "bad" or "good" affiliation for any of the playable races, perhaps even setting up some PvP options around this.

I admit it, I want to play an evil Charr.

Traveller

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29 Apr 2008 at 15:25 - 73

Maybe there could be a reputation / karma counter, sort of like in Fallout series, that would give some implication whether you've been doing good or evil things.

Or better yet, the concept of "good" and "evil" wouldn't even exist and would totally depend on perspective. Maybe it's too ambitious for a game like GW, dunno, but one can hope.

Breakfast Mc Rit

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29 Apr 2008 at 16:40 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveller

Or better yet, the concept of "good" and "evil" wouldn't even exist and would totally depend on perspective. Maybe it's too ambitious for a game like GW, dunno, but one can hope.

The perspective of good and evil between playable races is how I envision GW2 to be. For example, the Charr and human races are enemies, to a human like Gwen, the Charr are evil. The Charr and Norn, however, probably have some sort of unspoken respect for each other as natural hunters and warriors and respectively don't see the other as an evil race. The true evil is in the Dragon antagonists.

I'm rather excited about how this is all going to play out.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

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29 Apr 2008 at 16:51 - 75

God, I hope PvP isn't based off of races : ( Otherwise, Sylvarri are going to get rolled.

eagleblade

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01 May 2008 at 01:24 - 76

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Originally Posted by Nevin

No glimpse at the end, unless you're talking about the chode tree that ventari planted.

the definition for chode ROTFL:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chode

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

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01 May 2008 at 07:29 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevin

On a side note, maybe Norn in GW2 will be able to shapeshift into more than just bears?

Yes, please.

Dru Stratas

Frost Gate Guardian

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01 May 2008 at 17:10 - 78

I reckon they will only be able to shapeshift into the bear, else the ancient beliefs of theirs would have shown them how to change into a boar/wolf prior to GW2, as in EotN times, even long before that..
Its probably just some concept of what they "could" shift into, they chose bear obviously

However, the only way I see this working, is like different colonies of Norn, so far we have only seen the shiverpeak Norn

Zsig

Academy Page

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01 May 2008 at 22:06 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dru Stratas

However, the only way I see this working, is like different colonies of Norn, so far we have only seen the shiverpeak Norn

Speaking of it, but on a relatively different note, how about other races and their many regional differences?

For example, we could have Humans from Ascalon holding Ebonhawke and fighting against the Charr... (Ascalonians)

And on the other side we have Tyrians in Divinity Reach, could they be effectively two different races?

What about the Charr?

There are currently 4 Legions. Iron Legion, Ash Legion, Blood Legion and Golden Legion.

As far as the story goes, it appears that the latter (Golden Ladder) has been considered outcast by the others lately, could this mean we're going to only be able to play as a Golden Legion Charr? This is pretty weird considering that the Golden Legion was the one responsible for the "discovering" and worshipping to the Titans, but who knows what happened on the days that followed EotN?

I find this particularly intriguing as it wouldn't make much sense joining humans and charr in the same group for no apparent reason (which seems the case so far), and also nothing we know so far implies that the races are going to be rival (ala Kurzicks vs. Luxons, or WoW's Horde vs. Alliance thing)

Anyways, couple thoughts.

[M]agna_[C]arta

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02 May 2008 at 00:33 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

You know what I'd like to see playable? Tengu.

Only one way for this to come True: Spam Suggestion bout Tengus after the release of GW2, They'll surely release them on a Canthan Expansion ^_^.
Little Chance for Nagas but give it a Go ^_^!

And Centaurs for the Elonan Expansion!