I'm wondering what the lowest possible reqs are for max weapons (different for non-inscrs and inscrs ofc).
Non-inscribables:
Sword - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Axe - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Hammer - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942)
Bow - Req 8?
Daggers - Req 8?
Staff - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10284168)
Wand - Req 8?
Focus - Req 7
Shield - Req 7
Inscribables:
Sword - Req 8
Axe - Req 9?
Hammer - Req 9?
Bow - Req 9?
Daggers - Req 9?
Staff - Req 9?
Wand - Req 9?
Focus - Req 8
Shield - Req 8
Spear - Req 9?
Scythe - Req 9?
The ones I have listed are the lowest reqs I have seen so far. If anybody has seen lower reqs than the ones I have a question mark listed next to, please say so (and give a screenshot for proof as well). If you're wondering about where I got some of my reqs, you can probably find them on the Sell or High End forums (I know there is a Q7 staff, sword, axe and hammer on sale all in High End). I will post screenshots later of all the lowest reqs I've seen (or somebody else can post them as well and save me some time :-D).
EDIT: Changed all the Q#'s to Req #'s so as to stop all the QQ'ing about Q vs req...This thread is supposed to be a list of reqs, not a bunch of people worrying about proper grammar, etc. on forums pertaining to an online game!
~Tru
Lowest possible reqs for max weapons
Da Tru Legend
Gift3d
I think it's a universal 7 for all tyrian maxed, and a universal 8 for all types of inscribables. Just who really cares about req7 staves and wands, that's probably why we never see them around.
makosi
Someone posted an image of 7-17, req7 Chromium Shards but I think that has to be verified by someone reputable.
Requirement doesn't begin with Q though. It goes to show the extent to which people are followers.
Requirement doesn't begin with Q though. It goes to show the extent to which people are followers.
KartMan
I think this is pretty accurate
Da Tru Legend
I'm going to have to leave for real life stuff in a few minutes, but after that I will post screenshots of the lowest req items I have seen. Any claims of lower reqs than listed MUST have screenshots posted with them, and I would prefer to verify them in-game as well.
Jetdoc
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Non-inscribables:
Sword - Req 7 Axe - Req 7 Hammer - Req 7 Bow - Req 8? Daggers - Req 8? Staff - Req 7 Wand - Req 8? Focus - Req 7 Shield - Req 7 Inscribables: Sword - Req 8 Axe - Req 9? Hammer - Req 9? Bow - Req 9? Daggers - Req 9? Staff - Req 9? Wand - Req 9? Focus - Req 8 Shield - Req 8 |
Spears - Req 9
Scythes - Req 9
Also - I haven't seen a req 7 non-inscribable hammer before...can anyone else confirm that they exist?
Alexandra-Sweet
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For God's sake, THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT GRAMMAR! If you have nothing to say about the "lowest possible requirements" for max weapons, DO NOT POST ON THIS THREAD...
~Tru |
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While the majority of max-damage weapons or focus items have a requirement of nine, there are rare cases where this value is actually a requirement of eight, or even seven. These kinds of weapons/focus items can sell for hundreds of platinum due to their rarity.
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Da Tru Legend
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
You also need to add:
Spears - Req 9 Scythes - Req 9 Also - I haven't seen a req 7 non-inscribable hammer before...can anyone else confirm that they exist? |
Alexandra-Sweet: Does the Wiki post apply for ALL weapons? I haven't heard of/seen req 7 max of every single type of weapon...:-\
~Tru
take_me
Agree with your list.
I also think it's strange that there are quite many req8 inscribable Swords, Foci and Shields.....but no others....
I also think it's strange that there are quite many req8 inscribable Swords, Foci and Shields.....but no others....
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Da Tru Legend
Good point. I actually have seen a req 8 spear on High End though. And req 7 non-inscribable hammer is on Todeshand's High End thread.
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Did a search for the req 8 spear, and can't seem to find it. If anyone else has seen one of these, I'd love to hear from you...I've been of the impression that the two Nightfall classes are doomed to having req 9 weapons.
TheRaven
Tru, have you tried PMing The Herbalizer thru here. I know he/she collects a lot of rare one-of-a-kind weapons and may be able to provide you with some screenshots of req 7s.
OOshadeOO
seen a rq7 plagueborn and war hammer before 
no pic cus didnt take any at the time but they are real
no pic cus didnt take any at the time but they are real
Yawgmoth
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Non-inscribables: Sword - Req 7 Axe - Req 7 Hammer - Req 7 Bow - Req 8? Daggers - Req 8? Staff - Req 7 Wand - Req 8? Focus - Req 7 Shield - Req 7 Inscribables: Sword - Req 8 Axe - Req 9? Hammer - Req 9? Bow - Req 9? Daggers - Req 9? Staff - Req 9? Wand - Req 9? Focus - Req 8 Shield - Req 8 |
And theoretically, if a req.7 staff was possible, a wand might be just aswell, but it's not that obvious - staffs' base values seem to be connected with each other in the generating algorithm (need more data to confirm)
And as for req.7 daggers, there was only that 1 screenshot (Chromium Shards) but not confirmed and I was a little doubtful about it, because the poster claimed they had dropped recently (post NF)
And for the new inscribables, every known evidence suggests that all the NF update did was a +1 to minimum allowed req for a max weapon - it would mean there should be an extremelly slim chance for a req.8 insc. axe or hammer to drop, chance as low as it was for those req.7's back then AND probably only from a very specific base droplevel.
Div
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
I think it's a universal 7 for all tyrian maxed, and a universal 8 for all types of inscribables. Just who really cares about req7 staves and wands, that's probably why we never see them around.
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OHAI I CAN RUN 7 SWORDSMANSHIP SO THAT I GET 12 IN HEALING AND 15 IN STRENGTH FOR DOLYAK SIGNET LOLOL.
makosi
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OHAI I CAN RUN 7 SWORDSMANSHIP SO THAT I GET 12 IN HEALING AND 15 IN STRENGTH FOR DOLYAK SIGNET LOLOL.
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Low req items don't excite me much but the fact that people are willing to pay well for them makes them an attractive prospect. The req7 Curses Evil Eye Staff in high-end is the only staff I have seen with req7 and it must have dropped in Cantha. Were there ever Tyrian req7 staves?
GenericWasDanny
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OHAI I CAN RUN 7 SWORDSMANSHIP SO THAT I GET 12 IN HEALING AND 15 IN STRENGTH FOR DOLYAK SIGNET LOLOL. |
for example, a person weilding a require 7 with 13 swordsmanship will have a higher chance than a person with a require 12 and 12 swordsmanship
can be pretty handy
makosi
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i believe the higher the attribute level you have compared to a weapon requirement increases your chance of scoring a critical
for example, a person weilding a require 7 with 13 swordsmanship will have a higher chance than a person with a require 12 and 12 swordsmanship can be pretty handy |
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by makosi
Requirement doesn't begin with Q though. It goes to show the extent to which people are followers.
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Just who really cares about low req weapons in general, unless it's a shield. The only time low req matters is when you run a 14-11-9 spec assassin, with 9 dagger mastery. But regardless, anyone who runs 7-8 weapon mastery is an idiot.
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cgruber
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Originally Posted by GenericWasDanny
i believe the higher the attribute level you have compared to a weapon requirement increases your chance of scoring a critical
for example, a person weilding a require 7 with 13 swordsmanship will have a higher chance than a person with a require 12 and 12 swordsmanship can be pretty handy |
Da Tru Legend
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Just who really cares about low req weapons in general, unless it's a shield. The only time low req matters is when you run a 14-11-9 spec assassin, with 9 dagger mastery. But regardless, anyone who runs 7-8 weapon mastery is an idiot.
OHAI I CAN RUN 7 SWORDSMANSHIP SO THAT I GET 12 IN HEALING AND 15 IN STRENGTH FOR DOLYAK SIGNET LOLOL. |
~Tru
eljer
Though wands aren't high-demand items, this dropped for me right before factions came out
MisterB
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Originally Posted by GenericWasDanny
for example, a person weilding a require 7 with 12 swordsmanship will not have a higher chance than a person with a require 12 and 12 swordsmanship to score a critical hit
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Jetdoc
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There's only one thing I've never seen from that list - a req.7 staff - but I remember a reputable source confirm he had seen one. I'd still like to see a screenshot, this may be the only 1 ingame.
And theoretically, if a req.7 staff was possible, a wand might be just aswell, but it's not that obvious - staffs' base values seem to be connected with each other in the generating algorithm (need more data to confirm). |
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But regardless, anyone who runs 7-8 weapon mastery is an idiot.
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Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Da Tru Legend
I'm wondering what the lowest possible reqs are for max weapons (different for non-inscrs and inscrs ofc).
Non-inscribables: Sword - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942) Axe - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942) Hammer - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942) Bow - Req 8? Daggers - Req 8? Staff - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10284168) Wand - Req 8? Focus - Req 7 Shield - Req 7 Inscribables: Sword - Req 8 Axe - Req 9? Hammer - Req 9? Bow - Req 9? Daggers - Req 9? Staff - Req 9? Wand - Req 9? Focus - Req 8 Shield - Req 8 Spear - Req 9? Scythe - Req 9? The ones I have listed are the lowest reqs I have seen so far. If anybody has seen lower reqs than the ones I have a question mark listed next to, please say so (and give a screenshot for proof as well). If you're wondering about where I got some of my reqs, you can probably find them on the Sell or High End forums (I know there is a Q7 staff, sword, axe and hammer on sale all in High End). I will post screenshots later of all the lowest reqs I've seen (or somebody else can post them as well and save me some time :-D). EDIT: Changed all the Q#'s to Req #'s so as to stop all the QQ'ing about Q vs req...This thread is supposed to be a list of reqs, not a bunch of people worrying about proper grammar, etc. on forums pertaining to an online game! ~Tru |
Req7 Staves - Seen 2 or 3
Req7 Hammers - 4 to my knowledge (which is fairly vast
)Req7 Axes - deff less then 50
Req7 Swords - shit loads
Req7 Bows - Doesn't exist, req8 is the lowest.
Req7 Foci - few and far between
Req7 Wands - Req8 is the lowest I've seen with dual mods. I could be wrong, my memory fails me sometimes.
Req8 is the lowest req no negs come in. Only a few left uncustomized though. Ignore all the high ends idiots who post "last one in game" they're spreading BS.
I can pretty much answer any question you have. Shoot me a PM if need be.
BTW herb doesn't play anymore. He long since departed for WoW. Pretty rich man from what I here too
Yawgmoth
Nice req.7 staff, I've found it in HighEnd a minute after my post.
But can a req.8 inscribable one exist?
I've seen 2 different req.8 staffs that dropped after NF release (they have 20%HSR all spells) but both were Canthan.
So if there are no differences in base stats generation for items inscribable and not, we can assume there is a possibility for inscribable req.8 axe, hammer and staff.
Now a question:: has anyone seen a max (20%/+10/11-22/any req) *purple* inscribable staff??
it seems all of them are a little off, either 11-21 or 19 or even 18% HSR, I haven't seen a max purp insc. one in desipite
But I've actually seen a max 20%/+10/11-22 Purple staff drop in tyria this year. It may be just a very rare occurence possible anywhere or it may be exclusive to non-insc. staffs.
(This is all just to find an evidence for the base item stat generation formulas working different for inscribables than for noninscribables.)
But can a req.8 inscribable one exist?
I've seen 2 different req.8 staffs that dropped after NF release (they have 20%HSR all spells) but both were Canthan.
So if there are no differences in base stats generation for items inscribable and not, we can assume there is a possibility for inscribable req.8 axe, hammer and staff.
Now a question:: has anyone seen a max (20%/+10/11-22/any req) *purple* inscribable staff??
it seems all of them are a little off, either 11-21 or 19 or even 18% HSR, I haven't seen a max purp insc. one in desipite
But I've actually seen a max 20%/+10/11-22 Purple staff drop in tyria this year. It may be just a very rare occurence possible anywhere or it may be exclusive to non-insc. staffs.
(This is all just to find an evidence for the base item stat generation formulas working different for inscribables than for noninscribables.)
Malice Black
It should be possible as you can get max purple melee items. Never had one drop for me that I can remember though. I haven't played in god knows how long though.
LifeInfusion
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Just who really cares about low req weapons in general, unless it's a shield. The only time low req matters is when you run a 14-11-9 spec assassin, with 9 dagger mastery. But regardless, anyone who runs 7-8 weapon mastery is an idiot.
OHAI I CAN RUN 7 SWORDSMANSHIP SO THAT I GET 12 IN HEALING AND 15 IN STRENGTH FOR DOLYAK SIGNET LOLOL. |
Assassins that usually don't rely on dagger mastery for the +damage wouldn't be using daggers (unless it is to trigger deadly arts offhand/duals).
Frankly, staves are the worst low req to buy since the only thing that scales is the damage from wanding.
KartMan
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Nice req.7 staff, I've found it in HighEnd a minute after my post.
But can a req.8 inscribable one exist? I've seen 2 different req.8 staffs that dropped after NF release (they have 20%HSR all spells) but both were Canthan. So if there are no differences in base stats generation for items inscribable and not, we can assume there is a possibility for inscribable req.8 axe, hammer and staff. Now a question:: has anyone seen a max (20%/+10/11-22/any req) *purple* inscribable staff?? it seems all of them are a little off, either 11-21 or 19 or even 18% HSR, I haven't seen a max purp insc. one in desipite But I've actually seen a max 20%/+10/11-22 Purple staff drop in tyria this year. It may be just a very rare occurence possible anywhere or it may be exclusive to non-insc. staffs. (This is all just to find an evidence for the base item stat generation formulas working different for inscribables than for noninscribables.) |
_Todeshand_
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Req7 Staves - Seen 2 or 3
Req7 Hammers - 4 to my knowledge (which is fairly vast )Req7 Axes - deff less then 50 Req7 Swords - shit loads Req7 Bows - Doesn't exist, req8 is the lowest. Req7 Foci - few and far between Req7 Wands - Req8 is the lowest I've seen with dual mods. I could be wrong, my memory fails me sometimes. Req8 is the lowest req no negs come in. Only a few left uncustomized though. Ignore all the high ends idiots who post "last one in game" they're spreading BS. |
req7 Hammers: Know one, heard of 3 others.
req7 Axes: Know about 9 or so.
req7 Swords, Shields, Foci: Know many, have seen many.
req7 Bows: Never seen one.
req7 Daggers: Never seen any ingame. But this. Believe it's a fake though.
req7 Wands: Never seen or heard of any.
req7 Staffs: Know 2. One's in High End atm. That's the other one.
req8 inscr.:
Swords, Shields, Foci: Know many.
Axes: Never seen one. My guildie Eir Of Asgards says that he's seen one. Possibly 6-26
Staffs, Wands, Scythes, Spears, Bows, Daggers: Don't know any.
Glazen Blade
As far as q7 hammers go ive seen warhammer q7 15^50
also a plagueborn or something with a swuare head been a while since i seen it but it was 14^50
and a 15% stance q7 war hammer pvp skin
as far as axes go theres more than people think the just pop up randomly from the oddest places but still no more than 20 maybe 30 of em i seen about 11 my self
also a plagueborn or something with a swuare head been a while since i seen it but it was 14^50
and a 15% stance q7 war hammer pvp skin
as far as axes go theres more than people think the just pop up randomly from the oddest places but still no more than 20 maybe 30 of em i seen about 11 my self
undeadgun
Bows: Req 7 Shortbow gold max 15>50, been sold while ago, can confirm on this one
Pleikki
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Non-inscribables: Sword - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942) Axe - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942) Hammer - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10282942) Bow - Req 8? <- r7 Excist Daggers - Req 8? <- r7 Excist Staff - Req 7 (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10284168) Wand - Req 8? <- r7 Excist Focus - Req 7 Shield - Req 7 Inscribables: Sword - Req 8 Axe - Req 9? <- r8 Excist Hammer - Req 9? <- r8 Bow - Req 9? <- r8 Daggers - Req 9? Staff - Req 9? <- r8 Wand - Req 9? Focus - Req 8 Shield - Req 8 Spear - Req 9? <- r8 Scythe - Req 9? |
-Pleikki
Crom The Pale
We've lost quite a few of the high end items to players leaving the game...
One of the richest I know was Ugly Monk From Hell, haven't seen him on in months and I know for a fact he had a large collection of req7/8 swords wands/offhands including a R8 15% stance crystaline sword.
One of the richest I know was Ugly Monk From Hell, haven't seen him on in months and I know for a fact he had a large collection of req7/8 swords wands/offhands including a R8 15% stance crystaline sword.
Shakkara
Now the big question: Do they still drop?
IattackU
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Now the big question: Do they still drop?
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manitoba1073
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This question = impossible to answer. Either you have to go find a max req 7 or 8 gold. Or, you have to have Anet come out and officially say (with proof) that they don't. Good luck either way.
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Anet has already came out and said yes they still drop.
wilderness
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Anet has already came out and said yes they still drop.
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I asked the GMs if they still drop and they said yes, but I didn't want to bug them with specifics like damage levels, skins etc..
Or something just as unhelpful. We know that blue req 7 shields drop with 15 armour, great for casters and We know that req 8 inscription golds drop max, so how do we know this isn't what the GM or whoever was referring to?
All I know is, that out of my entire friends list and alliance (some of these people being in some very big PvE guilds, very active and hardcore players/famers/etc..), not one person has seen a q7 or q8 GOLD MAX INHERENT item drop for months and months.
I go on about this a lot, I know... it's problem I got.
zamial
As I understand. There was a update (not documented in the wiki.)
MAX req7 weapons NO longer drop in the game.This was done at the same time as the dual damage reduction mods on max shields was removed from dropping. After followed the the Fiery Flame Spitter nerf making it only possible to get a 10% bonus previously 15% and the Rockmolder nerf that hit all Rockmolders that HAD dropped and that will to date.
This only applies to MAX Damage, PERFECT weapons.
At this point req.8 max perfect items DO still drop, very rarely.
I may be wrong, I have no proof. I have yet to see a real recent screen shot disproving my above statments.
MAX req7 weapons NO longer drop in the game.This was done at the same time as the dual damage reduction mods on max shields was removed from dropping. After followed the the Fiery Flame Spitter nerf making it only possible to get a 10% bonus previously 15% and the Rockmolder nerf that hit all Rockmolders that HAD dropped and that will to date.
This only applies to MAX Damage, PERFECT weapons.
At this point req.8 max perfect items DO still drop, very rarely.
I may be wrong, I have no proof. I have yet to see a real recent screen shot disproving my above statments.
manitoba1073
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Originally Posted by zamial
As I understand. There was a update (not documented in the wiki.)
MAX req7 weapons NO longer drop in the game.This was done at the same time as the dual damage reduction mods on max shields was removed from dropping. After followed the the Fiery Flame Spitter nerf making it only possible to get a 10% bonus previously 15% and the Rockmolder nerf that hit all Rockmolders that HAD dropped and that will to date. This only applies to MAX Damage, PERFECT weapons. At this point req.8 max perfect items DO still drop, very rarely. I may be wrong, I have no proof. I have yet to see a real recent screen shot disproving my above statments. |
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10259274
reading can be a good thing.
zamial
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A picture is worth a thousand words. Not that I don't trust Gaile's word but. . . .
A screen shot of a max sword with someone in current armor and the chat window open with the drop would be better proof. Also I was not talking about a max req 7 weapon, I was talking about a PERFECT, MAX req 7. an example of this would be a sword that is 15-22 with a 15^50 mod or an inscription slot. Max to many refers to the damage mod.