I'm not sure what the best way to do it would be, but basically if you weren't one of the first people to play this game you will never get any amount of gp for your minis. I don't know what the solution is, but it is rediculous for the vet players, who probably already have plenty of stuff, to get 100k +e appearing in their inventory for all chars, including storage mules. I'd like to see minis start dropping from chests. I do think that the vet players should get something for their dedication, but I just think this whole birthday present could be revamped so as not to basically penalize people who discovered this game later.
Edit: Please don't make this about me, and turn this thread into something it isn't (QQ, flame, etc.) I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. I'm inquiring what the communities opinion is of this and what the possible suggestion may be.
Birthday present system needs change
Game N Die
arch psyker
/notsigned
If they get something else first that can be sold the same argument as the minipets will exist, or if they get something for buying/playing in the first X months that newer chars don't get then all we would hear is people complaining they get this and we don't.
If they get something else first that can be sold the same argument as the minipets will exist, or if they get something for buying/playing in the first X months that newer chars don't get then all we would hear is people complaining they get this and we don't.
I pwnd U
Minis are presents. It's something special to thank they players that have been playing for a long time. Yes it will net them more money but in Anets eyes they are the most loyal players and the first few to get the game started. Just like people idolize the founders of world renown companies or sport teams, Anet is thanking those who have started first and have kept with their characters. They deserve to get the minis first.
Syco Masato
They're not penalizing those who discovered it later. They're rewarding those who've been with it for longer.
/notsigned.
/notsigned.
blackknight1337
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I Want More Money.
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Fixed for you.
Seriously, its pretty blatant. You want a 3rd year mini now, when you haven't had a char for even close to three years, yes? Perhaps I should add to the fixed quote, "Hi, I'm too lazy to make the money myself, so I want Anet to hand it to me on a silver platter (aka a bday present).
If its actually something that should even be considered, which this isn't, it should be in sardelac anyway.
Oh and btw, my ele is my oldest and isn't even 2 years old. I just picked up like 4 1 year bday presents and was just fine with that, even though i got possibly the worst minis of 1st year anyway. Hey, if nothing else, it was 4 free minis to dedicate at my monk's hall.
And further, if you did manage to get a 3rd year mini from Anet's gracious little heart (cough lol cough), with what i've seen, you would complain if it wasn't a green or gold one. GG QQ less?
If you want to get money, you can earn it.
Game N Die
No, actually I have over 2 mil in gold and assets atm. My motivation for this post is purely what I stated. No hidden agenda. And yes I am a new player, which is why I don't like being penalized.
Ultima pyromancer
easy solution - make minipets customised.
Commander Ryker
I am sick to death of the complaining about the mini pets. They are not something that Anet has to do, it's something extra they do for the players. If you don't like it, go play something else.
MMSDome
/notsigned
Does it hurt you? No it does not.
Does it hurt you? No it does not.
Kook~NBK~
You're NOT being penalized for being a new player. People who have been playing for a long time are being rewarded, there's a huge difference.
You don't want to pay 100k + ectos for a mini? WAIT a month or two until the prices drop. They always do. The only people who are willing to pay that much are the people who just HAVE to be the first to get the new toy. Even Whiptail Devourer minis were worth over 75k at one time.
You don't want to pay 100k + ectos for a mini? WAIT a month or two until the prices drop. They always do. The only people who are willing to pay that much are the people who just HAVE to be the first to get the new toy. Even Whiptail Devourer minis were worth over 75k at one time.
Game N Die
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easy solution - make minipets customised.
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We have thought of this, but this solution is problematic also. Duplicate minis would be worthless, and then new players would have to wait at least a year to get anything.
Dallcingi
Who cares if you get mini pets first just sell it for its current value later... no big deal since u got like 2 mil u say.
crazybanshee
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They're not penalizing those who discovered it later. They're rewarding those who've been with it for longer.
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but I agree with this poster, it's a reward and you shouldn't QQ about it. Mini's aren't essential, and there's other ways to make money just as fast (design a weapon the week they were released, play ha and get a ghostly, contests for rare minis, rollerbeetles, and questing for polar bear are some)/notsigned.
masterjer1
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No, actually I have over 2 mil in gold and assets atm. My motivation for this post is purely what I stated. No hidden agenda. And yes I am a new player, which is why I don't like being penalized.
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mystical nessAL
They needs something unique, not something that makes them better than someone ealse(e.g more money / "free" money)
DivineEnvoy
Let me try to summarize this. The current minipet system is used to reward players with characters that reached a certain age. You are a player who hasn't been around as long as many other players. Since other players are getting a third year minipet gift, you find it to be unfair for you. Since it is unfair for you, you are suggesting a change.
Let me ask you this question. If this change were to be made, wouldn't it be unfair for players who have actually stayed in the game for so long?
P.S: Shouldn't this thread be in the suggestion section? What's with all these ideas doing around in Riverside anyways?
Let me ask you this question. If this change were to be made, wouldn't it be unfair for players who have actually stayed in the game for so long?
P.S: Shouldn't this thread be in the suggestion section? What's with all these ideas doing around in Riverside anyways?
Game N Die
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They needs something unique, not something that makes them better than someone ealse(e.g more money / "free" money)
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Let me try to summarize this. The current minipet system is used to reward players with characters that reached a certain age. You are a player who hasn't been around as long as many other players. Since other players are getting a third year minipet gift, you find it to be unfair for you. Since it is unfair for you, you are suggesting a change.
Let me ask you this question. If this change were to be made, wouldn't it be unfair for players who have actually stayed in the game for so long? |
If you don't like my suggestion, fine, I respect that, but arguements like "you aren't being penalize, they're being rewarded" is a glass half empty/half full arguement and is not constructive. Please try to add something to this thread.
Mister_Smiley
It really to late for them to change the system, i've been playing guild wars almost 3yrs and i think the system works, i should know because almost all the minis i've gotten where white, the best i gotten was a mini Koss and Charr and they where worthless.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Creeping Carl
I knew a complaint thread like this would pop up soon after the Andrew Patrick/Wasabi minipet fiasco because it seems that people here complain about everything and can't stand that others get minipets before they do. It was only a matter of time before latecomers to the game complained that veterans were getting minipets earlier than they were.
The problem is that people completely forget that these are gifts, but instead see them as some sort of entitlement that they can sell for gold.
The problem is that people completely forget that these are gifts, but instead see them as some sort of entitlement that they can sell for gold.
IlikeGW
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If you don't like it, go play something else.
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DivineEnvoy
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Like I said, I think the vets should get something, but not just gp appearing in their inventory.
If you don't like my suggestion, fine, I respect that, but arguements like "you aren't being penalize, they're being rewarded" is a glass half empty/half full arguement and is not constructive. Please try to add something to this thread. |
Even so, what about the already-existing number of minipets around the market? Although we do know that minipets drop in price over time, they will drop even faster if they were dropped from chests. Do you think it will be fair for the players who actually waited three years into getting that White Rabbit or the players who actually paid 100k+50 ectos for that?
I am as constructive as it can be, but can this topic be constructive?
anonymous
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A new player with over 2 million in gold and assets!?! Sounds a little suspicious to me.
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MasterSasori
I rarely see any of the lesser minis but just hordes of the more expensive ones like that flying lizard Kuuasdjflksjdlf (could never get that right) in Kamadan.
After a while you just get sick of it, having a "lesser" minipet makes you more original anyway.
No one is being penalized. Being penalize is having 10% tithe on all your money and assets every month. Wouldn't that suck.
After a while you just get sick of it, having a "lesser" minipet makes you more original anyway.
No one is being penalized. Being penalize is having 10% tithe on all your money and assets every month. Wouldn't that suck.
Kai Bryon
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but not just gp appearing in their inventory.
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Anet views these items as gifts and nothing more, what people do with their gifts is up to them.
Snow Bunny
This is so pathetic, that ANet rewards older players for doing nothing special but buying ANet's product earlier, and you don't like that?
Too bad.
If you have cash, what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO do you care that older players get rewarded for their loyalty.
Shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up with your whining and go back to farming or whatever you do.
No need to be constructive in a non-constructive thread complaining about ANet's generosity.
Too bad.
If you have cash, what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO do you care that older players get rewarded for their loyalty.
Shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up with your whining and go back to farming or whatever you do.
No need to be constructive in a non-constructive thread complaining about ANet's generosity.
DarkFlame
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If you already find minipets to be unfair for the new players, how will you find it fair for an alternative reward?
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And like its been said, the minis are rewards, not instant gold. That some folks like some over others and are willing to pay for them is not an issue that can be fixed. If you want minis without forking over gold, mini Black Moa Chick, Ghostly Hero, Mallyx and Polar Bear are all minis you gain by in-game efforts.
Shakti
Mini's as b-day gifts were introduced as a pat on the back for the vets. They have no use at all other than fun little guys to follow you around. The fact that they have gold value AT ALL is totally player base. They have no merch value. That the fist in series are "free gold" is PLAYER'S CHOICE.
Yes, new players (or those of us who deleted chars before bdays were started lol) have to wait...or buy. That is THEIR CHOICE. Minis are in no way helpful to game play, they're just for fun. IMO whatever Anet gives if it is at all transferable or trade able would become "free gold". 3 years later it's a tad late to be upset about it.
Yes, new players (or those of us who deleted chars before bdays were started lol) have to wait...or buy. That is THEIR CHOICE. Minis are in no way helpful to game play, they're just for fun. IMO whatever Anet gives if it is at all transferable or trade able would become "free gold". 3 years later it's a tad late to be upset about it.
snaek
its a pretty standard thing to do for companies to reward loyalty...
i kno for a fact that some companies have 5/10/15, etc year gift awards for their employees/customers jus for workin at teh same company for that many years
basically...
if u want to be rewarded for ur loyalty to anet and gw...
then plz play this game for 3 yrs, then u'll be rewarded
(in other words, theres no way to cheat it, so dun even bother)
i kno for a fact that some companies have 5/10/15, etc year gift awards for their employees/customers jus for workin at teh same company for that many years
basically...
if u want to be rewarded for ur loyalty to anet and gw...
then plz play this game for 3 yrs, then u'll be rewarded
(in other words, theres no way to cheat it, so dun even bother)
Dante the Warlord
wow.. /notsigned
I am a vet player and got the game the day it was released, but i constantly deleted my characters, I stuck with my oldest character about a month or so after the release, along with two other PvP only chars. No veteran knew that we would have minipets in a year (i always felt it should have been one mini by account basing age, but then again i don't want 100k+x white minis) and the reason the mini pets are so rare are because few people get them first.
You aren't getting damaged in any way at all, all you have to do is be patient and you will get your pet. Now if you want the cash, then all you are doing here is QQing, ironically not the supposed type of thread, have fun with the game of farm for the money, the game has been more unfair to others esp some vet players who kept deleting until they found out that there was a minipet after a year...
I am a vet player and got the game the day it was released, but i constantly deleted my characters, I stuck with my oldest character about a month or so after the release, along with two other PvP only chars. No veteran knew that we would have minipets in a year (i always felt it should have been one mini by account basing age, but then again i don't want 100k+x white minis) and the reason the mini pets are so rare are because few people get them first.
You aren't getting damaged in any way at all, all you have to do is be patient and you will get your pet. Now if you want the cash, then all you are doing here is QQing, ironically not the supposed type of thread, have fun with the game of farm for the money, the game has been more unfair to others esp some vet players who kept deleting until they found out that there was a minipet after a year...
blackknight1337
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if you weren't one of the first people to play this game you will never get any amount of gp for your minis. ....... it is rediculous for the vet players, who probably already have plenty of stuff, to get 100k +e appearing in their inventory for all chars, including storage mules.
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No, actually I have over 2 mil in gold and assets atm. My motivation for this post is purely what I stated. No hidden agenda.
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So your second quote is exactly what I said before, your agenda is to get money lol. You are simply envious of people who have had the game longer and are GIVEN a mini by ArenaNet.
In the end, take it for what it is, its a GIFT. And if the mini means so much to you, go buy one with your RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing 2 million.
MsMassacre
I agree, it's a dumb system. But it's just over 2 years too late to fix it now.
cosyfiep
I dont think I understand.
This game is NOT about how much plat you have, so what does it matter that joebloe got his 3rd year mini and your account is only 1 year old????? If you REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY need to have that mini your choice is to either a) wait for your 3rd year bday and pray hard b) buy it from someone else or c) wait until the prices drop and then buy it....geez.
My account is also not yet 3 years old.....I am not having a hissy fit about it, yeah there are some minis I would REAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLYYY like to have , but I dont have the plat and I DO have patience! at some point there will be enough of the around if I was unable to get my own the first way. .....
NOW if you want to complain about minis-----complain more about the uber rare ones not being available to the casual player (but since you mention your riches that doesnt include you OP.....)
This game is NOT about how much plat you have, so what does it matter that joebloe got his 3rd year mini and your account is only 1 year old????? If you REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY need to have that mini your choice is to either a) wait for your 3rd year bday and pray hard b) buy it from someone else or c) wait until the prices drop and then buy it....geez.
My account is also not yet 3 years old.....I am not having a hissy fit about it, yeah there are some minis I would REAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLYYY like to have , but I dont have the plat and I DO have patience! at some point there will be enough of the around if I was unable to get my own the first way. .....
NOW if you want to complain about minis-----complain more about the uber rare ones not being available to the casual player (but since you mention your riches that doesnt include you OP.....)
snaek
this actually reminds me of those bratty kids that annoy teh flip outta their parents buggin to open their birthday and christmas presents like a month early
christmas is december 25th!!!! no sooner! no later!!! get over it!!! lol
christmas is december 25th!!!! no sooner! no later!!! get over it!!! lol
Malice Black
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this actually reminds me of those bratty kids that annoy teh flip outta their parents buggin to open their birthday and christmas presents like a month early
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Game N Die
Leave the game, good advice. Can't suggest a change without it being considered complaining, and if you complain you have to leave the game. So anyone who has ever complained about the economy, ursan, weapon skins, dungeons, etc., etc. should leave the game. See how silly that sounds.
No, I am asking the community if you agree or disagree with the current birthday present system, and if you agree with me, what suggestions do you have to change it. Personally, I don't really care about minis. Some people have taken this for what it's worth, others seem to want to use it as an excuse to attack me personally. If you don't agree, like I said, I can respect that...in that case state your case and carry on.
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I don't follow here. So you have plenty of money, but you are complaining cause when you get your mini it will be worthless.
So your second quote is exactly what I said before, your agenda is to get money lol. You are simply envious of people who have had the game longer and are GIVEN a mini by ArenaNet. In the end, take it for what it is, its a GIFT. And if the mini means so much to you, go buy one with your RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing 2 million. |
N1ghtstalker
mini's dropping from chests???? O_O
i got my first year mini on my first char last week and even i think this is a bad idea
i just farm for money and buy my mini's djeez
i got my first year mini on my first char last week and even i think this is a bad idea
i just farm for money and buy my mini's djeez
Magikarp
i dont see why different minis dont drop other places anyhow. seems kinda silly that the entire market for that type of item is based off of time spent in game.
not including all the odd korean bonus minis and pc mag minis of course..
it'd be cool to see a kraken have a drop rate of .0001 for mini kraken. you know.. something kinda oddball, but equally random for everyone.
otherwise, i say /notsigned to bday mini change
i agree with you (without the level of anger...)...
but seriously.. shut the hell up with the red engine garbage. its really not funny, and makes you all look really immature when you do it.
not including all the odd korean bonus minis and pc mag minis of course..
it'd be cool to see a kraken have a drop rate of .0001 for mini kraken. you know.. something kinda oddball, but equally random for everyone.
otherwise, i say /notsigned to bday mini change
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This is so pathetic, that ANet rewards older players for doing nothing special but buying ANet's product earlier, and you don't like that?
Too bad. If you have cash, what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO do you care that older players get rewarded for their loyalty. Shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up with your whining and go back to farming or whatever you do. No need to be constructive in a non-constructive thread complaining about ANet's generosity. |
but seriously.. shut the hell up with the red engine garbage. its really not funny, and makes you all look really immature when you do it.
Nazar Razak
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gp appearing in their inventory.
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the minipet system is fine as it is. Older players get rewarded. If new players get the newer minipets, then what is the point? what do veterans get? Yet another "Im new and i want the best things in the game right away" thread.
Game N Die
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i dont see why different minis dont drop other places anyhow. seems kinda silly that the entire market for that type of item is based off of time spent in game.
not including all the odd korean bonus minis and pc mag minis of course.. it'd be cool to see a kraken have a drop rate of .0001 for mini kraken. you know.. something kinda oddball, but equally random for everyone. otherwise, i say /notsigned to bday mini change i agree with you (without the level of anger...)... but seriously.. shut the hell up with the red engine garbage. its really not funny, and makes you all look really immature when you do it. |
farmerfez
lol
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