Because of the Zaishen title update, Zaishen keys are being bought by the truckload now and people are just slamming them on the chest for the title. NOT in the spirit as it was intended I imagine (A more universal PvP title).
Please customise keys on redemption to make people WORK for the title and get it on their own merits, not on their pockets.
Customise Zaishen Keys
Sarevok Thordin
Witchblade
/clever move -> 5 rep->5 points in title, no keys
/obvious answer to this -> Let's customize dyes too !!
/obvious answer to this -> Let's customize dyes too !!
MirkoTeran
Might as well customize all other items on drop to, right?
Mr. G
/signed
bought titles make me sad, and bought titles with an emote...well....
bought titles make me sad, and bought titles with an emote...well....
Witchblade
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/signed
bought titles make me sad, and bought titles with an emote...well.... |
Arkantos
Does it really matter? If people want to waste gold for quite horrible emotes, let them. Don't see how it effects anyone else.
Sarevok Thordin
Note: I made this kind of suggestion because now that the update is in, it's gonna be hard to implement a more kurz/lux like solution without annoying ALOT of people.
fowlero
/notsigned (if this is a sign/not thing)
I'd like to be able to sell my keys to those who want to buy the title.
No-one cares about titles anymore anyway.
PS Mr G's pic made me lol.
I'd like to be able to sell my keys to those who want to buy the title.
No-one cares about titles anymore anyway.
PS Mr G's pic made me lol.
Thierry2
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Does it really matter? If people want to waste gold for quite horrible emotes, let them. Don't see how it effects anyone else.
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Tharkon
Edit: I actually think the whole title thing has gone so far.
Is there like a need among people to show that they've opened a big amount of chests? Seriously...The keys are a good thing for the game but the amount of titles is making me sick. Games never were about titles, they were about having fun and becoming better at the game.
OMG OMG I Open lockpicks, I get title.
OMG OMG. I Buy zaishen keys I get title.
OMG OMG. I freakin kill x amount of monsters, I GET TITLE.
OMG MOG. I do this I do that, I get a title.
Seriously, is it all the game's become? A race for a stupid text besides your name?
I understand the exploration, the pve completion and the pvp titles. The others are just shit IMO :P
Is there like a need among people to show that they've opened a big amount of chests? Seriously...The keys are a good thing for the game but the amount of titles is making me sick. Games never were about titles, they were about having fun and becoming better at the game.
OMG OMG I Open lockpicks, I get title.
OMG OMG. I Buy zaishen keys I get title.
OMG OMG. I freakin kill x amount of monsters, I GET TITLE.
OMG MOG. I do this I do that, I get a title.
Seriously, is it all the game's become? A race for a stupid text besides your name?
I understand the exploration, the pve completion and the pvp titles. The others are just shit IMO :P
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Too late. I already know people with rank 7 of the new z-title. You can't stop the flood. It'd be unfair to people who get it the "legitamate" way after the change.
Too late. I already know people with rank 7 of the new z-title. You can't stop the flood. It'd be unfair to people who get it the "legitamate" way after the change.
Dru Stratas
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Originally Posted by fowlero
No-one cares about titles anymore anyway.
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But I agree with Arkantos, its a great way for the ones that "farm" them to make decent cash
Tharkon
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Originally Posted by Dru Stratas
Actually, most guilds are now focusing on titles.
But I agree with Arkantos, its a great way for the ones that "farm" them to make decent cash |
Yeah, but like who the hell gives a shit about random lame titles as these?
If youre looking for someone good at farming or PvE you look for the core PvE titles.
Opposite for the PVP.
The rest just stress young people to get *more more more* instead of just having fun and playing a game.
Tosha
/notsigned
I do not care for the Z chest drops, nor for the new bloody title. I do PvP a lot though. I like the fact that I can earn me some money while doing what I love most in GW. Selling the keys will finally buy me the new armor I always dreamt of ^^
Saying it is wrong to farm balty faction for keys (cash) is the same as saying it is wrong to farm ectos for cash imo.
I do not care for the Z chest drops, nor for the new bloody title. I do PvP a lot though. I like the fact that I can earn me some money while doing what I love most in GW. Selling the keys will finally buy me the new armor I always dreamt of ^^
Saying it is wrong to farm balty faction for keys (cash) is the same as saying it is wrong to farm ectos for cash imo.
RedStar
/notsigned
It's silly to customize something just so you can't trade it. It's almost the same as customizing sweets, alcohol and non identified golds.
But I agree that this title is dumb, especially after I have opened that chest so many times xD.
It's silly to customize something just so you can't trade it. It's almost the same as customizing sweets, alcohol and non identified golds.
But I agree that this title is dumb, especially after I have opened that chest so many times xD.
obsidian ectoplasm
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Does it really matter? If people want to waste gold for quite horrible emotes, let them. Don't see how it effects anyone else.
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Yeah...
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Tommy529
a better solution would be to get the points for exchanging the faction in for the keys, but i dont really see the big deal about the title
/unsigned
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Risus
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Does it really matter? If people want to waste gold for quite horrible emotes, let them. Don't see how it effects anyone else.
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Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Risus
Not for emotes, for a title to put into HoM. More benifits in GW2 my friend. And what else will those no-lifers do with those 1000k + 10+ stacks of ecto they have?
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I wouldn't talk about HoM and GW2 until information is actually released. The benefits you get from this title is probably going to be shitty anyways.
quickmonty
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Originally Posted by Risus
Not for emotes, for a title to put into HoM. More benifits in GW2 my friend. And what else will those no-lifers do with those 1000k + 10+ stacks of ecto they have?
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Last I read the only benefits will be cosmetic. If someone has other information from ANET, please let us all in on it.
Monk In The Box
Horrible idea. People actually farm these and sell them. If you customize them i'm sure it would have some effect on Guild Wars Economy.
/not signed
/not signed
Navaros
Not signed. Maxing this title is not really possible because the max is so ludicrously high.
And not everyone is interested in ranking up in the title, some would prefer to choose to sell their Z Keys and should be allowed to have that option just as they currently do.
This is fine as is. If any changes should be made, then it should be changed so that the the points needed to max title is drastically lowered.
And not everyone is interested in ranking up in the title, some would prefer to choose to sell their Z Keys and should be allowed to have that option just as they currently do.
This is fine as is. If any changes should be made, then it should be changed so that the the points needed to max title is drastically lowered.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Monk In The Box
Horrible idea. People actually farm these and sell them. If you customize them i'm sure it would have some effect on Guild Wars Economy.
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You do realize the POINT of this suggestion is so you can't sell them.
Person a: The speed limit is 55 mph.
Person b: We should lower the speed limit to 45 mph
Person a: You can't do that because the speed limit is 55 mph
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Anyway, as I've said, it is a bad idea. But at least use rational reasons to dismiss it.
Sniper22
Something needs to be done to prevent people from buying the zaishen title. Pve players already have plenty of stuff that they can buy, such has armor and pve titles. Zaishen indicated pvp, and it should be pvp. This emote appears to be one of those (pwned by someone with experience) kinda things, not (im gonna spam you with my spear that cost 5 mil). Allowing people to buy this title totally kills the point and i'd rather not have the title at all. What's next... WTB r15 hero emote 4.5 mil.
Argentino
Well, i'm a title farmer... i love gw, but done everything, so now i occupy myself with titles and helping my guildies ... waiting till gw2 gets out.
But this is 1 title i find ridiculous. It has no added value of any kind. I don't mind people buying/selling these keys, i make a nice amount of gold from selling these babies.
I'm more worried about gw economics. That zaishen chest drops lots of weps that were considered rare. Take a look at the well known Ele sword, what happened to its price and rarity when they started dropping in eotn? Prices crumbled... lots of weps will have the same futur. Farming weps isn't the way of earning gold anymore ... cos of things like this.
Why did anet create this new title? To have a new pvp title? Then it missed its goal i think.
Personalising keys is not the way to solve this. Why not make alcohol personal to ... it's a title u buy to (most of it)...
But this is 1 title i find ridiculous. It has no added value of any kind. I don't mind people buying/selling these keys, i make a nice amount of gold from selling these babies.
I'm more worried about gw economics. That zaishen chest drops lots of weps that were considered rare. Take a look at the well known Ele sword, what happened to its price and rarity when they started dropping in eotn? Prices crumbled... lots of weps will have the same futur. Farming weps isn't the way of earning gold anymore ... cos of things like this.
Why did anet create this new title? To have a new pvp title? Then it missed its goal i think.
Personalising keys is not the way to solve this. Why not make alcohol personal to ... it's a title u buy to (most of it)...
Shayne Hawke
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/facepalm
You do realize the POINT of this suggestion is so you can't sell them. Person a: The speed limit is 55 mph. Person b: We should lower the speed limit to 45 mph Person a: You can't do that because the speed limit is 55 mph |
/notsigned. We're a little late on that. Just let it be.
Zahr Dalsk
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You do realize the POINT of this suggestion is so you can't sell them.
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/notsigned
Shai Lee
/notsigned
Some players don't care for titles or any of the things that come out of the z chest, why should they be stuck with a stack of customized keys or unwanted items they can do nothing with but drop in the bin? And if z keys are customized, then how about alcohol/sweets/party items? Other items that contribute to title? Lockpicks - Treasure Hunter/Lucky/Unlucky? Gold items - Wisdom? When exactly would the customizing of things be deemed going too far or considered fair/unfair for all?
Hang around major districts and you'll hear all about players that buy ranks/trimmed capes/guilds etc. This has been going on for a long time, nothing recent.
Some players don't care for titles or any of the things that come out of the z chest, why should they be stuck with a stack of customized keys or unwanted items they can do nothing with but drop in the bin? And if z keys are customized, then how about alcohol/sweets/party items? Other items that contribute to title? Lockpicks - Treasure Hunter/Lucky/Unlucky? Gold items - Wisdom? When exactly would the customizing of things be deemed going too far or considered fair/unfair for all?
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Originally Posted by Sniper22
Allowing people to buy this title totally kills the point and i'd rather not have the title at all. What's next... WTB r15 hero emote 4.5 mil.
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Yawgmoth
This is a title done totally wrong. But customizing keys is also doing it wrong! Think of the people who sell keys, who don't like to gamble, who don't have time to WTS all that junk that drops from the chest.
The way this title should have been done is:: Gain points for the title at the moment you SPEND your Faction or RPs to obtain a Zaishen Key, so you can later sell it or open the chest just like you did before update. Only this way it would be a truly meaningful title, not another money crap.
Sadly I don't see them updating this title after people already spent millions on buying it. Sad.
The way this title should have been done is:: Gain points for the title at the moment you SPEND your Faction or RPs to obtain a Zaishen Key, so you can later sell it or open the chest just like you did before update. Only this way it would be a truly meaningful title, not another money crap.
Sadly I don't see them updating this title after people already spent millions on buying it. Sad.
Div
This is the only way I can get an emote as a PvEr. Stop being elitist 
You Look Grim
Who cares if people can buy the title.
It's expensive as hell anyways.
It's expensive as hell anyways.
Targuil
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Who cares if people can buy the title.
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cellardweller
Yes they should have been customised, however it is too late to change now.
shru
Why not just change the title to:
1k Balth Faction earned=1 title point
I think it'd be a better display of achievement (even though faction is easy to come by, it's better than pure cash) and it could fit retroactively as balth faction earned is already tracked.
The whole Z-key inclusion was a bad idea to begin with, and now the economy is going to suffer as well. (a Z-chest opening spike always is bad news for mods, golds, and rares prices, along with huge amounts of cash being pumped into the economy from merching junk)
1k Balth Faction earned=1 title point
I think it'd be a better display of achievement (even though faction is easy to come by, it's better than pure cash) and it could fit retroactively as balth faction earned is already tracked.
The whole Z-key inclusion was a bad idea to begin with, and now the economy is going to suffer as well. (a Z-chest opening spike always is bad news for mods, golds, and rares prices, along with huge amounts of cash being pumped into the economy from merching junk)
EinherjarMx
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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin
Because of the Zaishen title update, Zaishen keys are being bought by the truckload now and people are just slamming them on the chest for the title. NOT in the spirit as it was intended I imagine (A more universal PvP title).
Please customise keys on redemption to make people WORK for the title and get it on their own merits, not on their pockets. |
just /notsigned
titles mean nothing, so spending cash for nothing is ok
Gattsu05
/notsigned
Z-chest gives people a chance to make money or find rare items. If someone's got too much cash then why shouldn't a player be able to sell their keys to that person?
Z-chest gives people a chance to make money or find rare items. If someone's got too much cash then why shouldn't a player be able to sell their keys to that person?
pumpkin pie
/signed
because when I get my title, I don't want it confused with those who have bought theirs.
because when I get my title, I don't want it confused with those who have bought theirs.
MithranArkanere
I don't mind, I only use my own keys, and never sell or buy them.
Zaishen keys it's one of the few income sources for PvP-only accounts, though.
Zaishen keys it's one of the few income sources for PvP-only accounts, though.
Smurf Minions
So you're the first one that gets 100 million balth faction? or 20.000 tournament reward points. Customizing them makes it even more impossible.
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El Presidente
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Does it really matter? If people want to waste gold for quite horrible emotes, let them. Don't see how it effects anyone else.
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