Questing title! PLEASE

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

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All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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Yet another thread that's been suggested a bazillion times, but I do see the point. You get titles for finishing missions, why not quests?

The problem is a lot of people don't do the quests unless they're primary, or the master difficulty ones keep some like myself from doing them because they're so irritating.

But then again, if you finish every single quest in the game, that takes probably more time and devotion than all the missions, so why not a title? Or perhaps at least one for all master difficulty missions or something.

Akolo

Akolo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

V??xj??, Sweden

Stop Stealing [agro]

Mo/

right now, nonprimary quests are a waste of time (except those who give pve skills in eotn).
this title would give a reason to do the quests.

/signed.

Rockby Quickfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Raptor Five [Five]

Me/Mo

Well, I've got three characters and I do all the quests all the time as I go through. Side quests, primary quests, everything. My Mesmer has actually already done all the quests in the game, while my other two aren't far enough because I don't play them near often enough.

I'd love for a title for reading and enjoying some of the nice side plots that Guild Wars has, and really think it'd be a nice way to get people more interested in them so maybe the Developer's hard work on them didn't go to complete waste and a bit more interest can be generated in them.

Why people don't do them already is beyond me, as I don't see the point in passing up free gold and experience for a reward, but whatever. I'm thinking it'd be a neat idea to give a title for it so that more people may do the quests and possibly even enjoy them a bit for the unique situations they face the player with that can't be found in everyday explorable areas and missions.

Definitely signed.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Titles were meant to be something given to those that make things:
I like to explore, I explored, I get the Carthographer.
I like to make all missions, I get the Protector.
I like to kill everything in one area, I get Vanquisher.
I like to get all skills in one character, I get Skill hunter.

So, what about those that like to make all quests? Adventurer!
This title existing or not don't keep me from making all quests, I'll make them all anyways, but there are much senseless things getting titles for being done, like staying in an outposts checking the Drunkard line in the Titles list until the next number comes.

The sooner it's added, the better.

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

/signed

A title I would actually enjoy like Protectors.

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

As much as i would like to see the implementation of such a title, it might interfere with the Linsey Murdock's plans to add new stuff to the game on a monthly basis starting next month -> http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...urdock/Journal
I hope for one or two new quests per month.

Teh [prefession]-zorz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

wisconsin

Spiders Lair Kurz [SpL]

W/A

/Not signed

Have enough titles imo.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
As much as i would like to see the implementation of such a title, it might interfere with the Linsey Murdock's plans to add new stuff to the game on a monthly basis starting next month -> http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...urdock/Journal
I hope for one or two new quests per month.
That would be like with exploration.

When terrain was added(Grent's Footprint) or lost(Prophecies Arenas), you kept the exploration.

So, this would be the same, if new quests are added, they count for the max, but won't remove your max if you already got it.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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Although I /signed while this was a new thread. /sign again. This is the only new title that's really needed (maybe along with MithranArkanere's suggestion for reformatting titles on page two).

Adding a poll to this, or the original thread and merging the two, would be good.

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

sounds good. Anything to get my RP sooner. TITles WOOT

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

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I know I already signed this but I do have a question - my fiance brought up a good point. Now while it would be a good idea to add this, how will you know for sure if you've done every single quest in the game? Now I don't mean the ones in your log are cleared out, like what if you missed an NPC that has a quest or something? Hope that makes sense.

Oh, and what about the Margrid/MOW quests? If you go with one of those heroes you don't get the quests for the other. How would that work? Unless the ones at the end of the game would count.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
how will you know for sure if you've done every single quest in the game?
There have been suggestions about this. My personal favorite is to add an option to NPCs, one per campaign, that keeps a log of all the ones you have done. With knowing what you have done, you can then go to wiki and look for the ones you don't have. Basically, wiki is the only known way to get the list of quests you need.

Quote:
Oh, and what about the Margrid/MOW quests? If you go with one of those heroes you don't get the quests for the other. How would that work? Unless the ones at the end of the game would count.
The same issue goes for other mutually exclusive quests, and the quests to people of a certain campaign. The mutually exclusive quests would be a simple answer. Only have one of them count towards the title. Say there are 100 quests in all 4 games that are mutually exclusive to each other, in pairs of two. You only need to do 50 of those quests, as the others cannot be done. For the end-game NF quests to get heroes, those would be mutually exclusive with the quest to get the other hero which you already have (Gain MoW, Gain Margrid would be mutually exclusive).

As for the "Campaign A only characters" quests, basically three different forms of each title track would be needed. Those quest tracks are based off of which campaign your character is from. So Prophecies characters have to do more quests in Prophecies then Factions characters, and so on and so on. Also, Pre-Searing quests, and other limited time quests (Event Quests for instance) would NOT count to the title. Repeating quests only count ONCE.


I hope that helps you out Tender Wolf .

Monkey Slayer

Monkey Slayer

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

/signed

This title would be huge considering there are so many quests.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

I hope that helps you out Tender Wolf .
Ah okay, that clears it up better. Thanks!

But yes I wouldn't mind a questing title, but at the same time I can see why ANET wouldn't implement it. So I'm okay either way really.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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hrmz, after reading this thread, lol, am i the only one who complete all primary and side quests along with the story?? Is there anyone out there that is doing the quests at all?

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
hrmz, after reading this thread, lol, am i the only one who complete all primary and side quests along with the story?? Is there anyone out there that is doing the quests at all?
I made all of them with a character, excluding some Day of Tengu and beta quests.

But all that are available right now, I've made them.

So yes, people do quests.

That deserves a title.

aotdsyndrome

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Maguuma Jungle

My Girlfriend Left Me For [Koss]

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/signed. People nowadays only want to farm DoA or solo uw, scrawl dungeons, etc. Noone takes time to follow the numerous little sidequests that always add some punch to the game.

Tyla

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
hrmz, after reading this thread, lol, am i the only one who complete all primary and side quests along with the story?? Is there anyone out there that is doing the quests at all?
I've done all of them, except for a few that I've not noticed, killing Mallyx and I still need my UW monument.

Sweet Mystery

Sweet Mystery

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Shadow Hunters Of Light [SHOL]

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I had a habit of clearing quests from my main characters on my 2 accounts... then gave up as too much hassle... I have 27 titles, well on my way to get the 30 I need..... adding this while it might seem like fun will just be a real GRIND if moving along.... and then to see the sheer hell of things... and the number of quests.... eeek.

This article (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10285297) had a speadsheet someone did to collate the quests to check them off... the number of them is staggering....

Just think.... Adventurer Quest Log 234/322234 Complete.... *sigh* (arbitary numbers chosen...)

Think too much to code to recognise the questing, too much in the end when see just where you are... no idea what quests missed or where.... at least get symbols for vanquish and dungeons etc....

Nice idea but too much for GW I think... perhaps something to look at for GW2

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

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great idea and would fit in handsomely with the Vanq./Cart./Skill titles. Games are for playing, titles are for earning. I like this business you speak of.
/signed

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

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/signed

This is a title that makes sense. Make sure it works retroactive for quests already completed by existing characters tho.

Horus

Horus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

www.godtguild.com

Blades Of Burning Shadows [GoDT]-leader

Mo/

this would be much better than those pay-to-have booze/etc. titles. You actually have to do something for this one.

/signed

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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/signed since i have 90% of the quests completed.


but I have one question. Don't you think this title should only be given to players who complete quests as the story progress?

it would be rather easy if some grind up to legendary survivor, then come back and do all the quests?

Arduin

Arduin

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The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
but I have one question. Don't you think this title should only be given to players who complete quests as the story progress?

it would be rather easy if some grind up to legendary survivor, then come back and do all the quests?
As long as you've completed all of the quests, what does it matter if you did them while being level 5 or level 20? Because it's harder when being level 5?

Half of the quests are in level 20 areas anyway.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

but I have one question. Don't you think this title should only be given to players who complete quests as the story progress?
No. Why? Prophecies is the only campaign that it takes a while to become lvl 20 in. The others are pretty much immediate. And with the advent of heroes level becomes a moot point anyway as you immediately have at least a lvl 15 hero from the beginning of prophecies (as long as you went to Elona - which i'm pretty sure most players are doing these days) therefore not having to take the low lvl henchmen.

Besides, the quests that aren't primary have absolutely nothing to do with the storyline..how would you suggest they police that?

There would be absolutely no benifit in having a necessary progression other than making it frustrating. What happens if you miss one along the way, would it be like survivor where once missed you never have the opportunity to do it, therefore missing out completely? I really think completing the huge number of quests in each campaign would be difficult enough without the added worry of where the quest fits in chronologically.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Although I understand your point that this kind of title would prolly mean more than a lot of other existing titles that dont mean squad. I cant help but /notsign due to my eternal hatred of title grinding.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Nah, nah.

Order is irrelevant. What's important is to make them.
- Campaign-exclusive quests should NOT be counted, since not all characters can make them. That makes things easier, and solves problems about people leaving pre-Searing before making all quests.
- Travel quests should not be counted, since they are not 'optional', people must them to get to other campaigns, and they are just 3 per character.
- Repeatable quests should be counted once (like all primary and dungeon EotN quests and all missions ALREADY are)
- When two quest lines are mutually-exclusive, and one of the lines has more quests than the other, the last quests one of the shorter quest line will count as more than one quest to make them match.

Of course, players would have to repeat some repeatable quests that were not counted before, but that's not a problem.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Nah, nah.

Order is irrelevant. What's important is to make them.
- Campaign-exclusive quests should NOT be counted, since not all characters can make them. That makes things easier, and solves problems about people leaving pre-Searing before making all quests.
- Travel quests should not be counted, since they are not 'optional', people must them to get to other campaigns, and they are just 3 per character.
- Repeatable quests should be counted once (like all primary and dungeon EotN quests and all missions ALREADY are)
- When two quest lines are mutually-exclusive, and one of the lines has more quests than the other, the last quests one of the shorter quest line will count as more than one quest to make them match.

Of course, players would have to repeat some repeatable quests that were not counted before, but that's not a problem.
I agree with everything you said except for the campaign exclusive quest thing...bit confused by that as surely all quests are campaign exclusive as they can only be done in that campaign and not any other?

Surely each continent would have its own questing title?

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

I don't want a quest title to tell me when I'm done questing. I want a quest log for completed quests to show me I've done everything I could have.

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by untouchable
I think they should put in a title for quests. Completeing all quests in a game=title. I think its stupid that they havn't done this considering they did it for missions. And in my opinion is would definatly make questing more enjoyable because its going towards a title. Good idea!?
YES I agree 100%

/SIGNED 2x

ahem.

ahem.

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quebec, Canada

R/

/Signed

It'd be the funniest title in game.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
I agree with everything you said except for the campaign exclusive quest thing...bit confused by that as surely all quests are campaign exclusive as they can only be done in that campaign and not any other?

Surely each continent would have its own questing title?
I meant native-exclusive.

For example, in Shing Jea, ALL but The Bog Beast of Bokku are native-exclusive.
If Prophecies, all up to Kryta: Journey end are exclusive to native characters.
Those won't count for the title, since it would be like giving points for Vanquishing pre-Searing areas: foreigners can't make them, even when they have their own 'exclusive ones'.

But all the rest, all the ones all characters can make regardless of the campaign they are from, would be counted.

bttgw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

/sign sign sign

I have been waiting for this quest title series

Master Tyria Adventurer
Master Canthan Adventurer
Master Elona Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer

NINjA

NINjA

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

N/

/sign

I really waiting for that Title

dragonx1013

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

Elite Syndocate of the Phoenix

D/

/Signed

One great reason, its a title that can not be farmed, and does not (necessarily) involve repetitious actions to complete. I'm all game to be a LB Rank 10, however, I got tired of the Junundra Farming after the second time. I have the game to PLAY, not repeat the same area a million times so I have a higher rank.

Vann Borakul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Noble Honor [NH]

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Having 3-4 titles for this would be horrendous. It would drastically cheapen GWAMM. All quests need to count for 1 title. It's not like you need to do them in HM.

/signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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With this title and a 'master of' for each region, it would be possible to get almost 30 titles WITHOUT grind at all.

I say... poll this thread!

deadman_uk

deadman_uk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

United Kingdom

KOD

Mo/E

As a person who owns 5 characters and has an obession of completing all quests I see, in all 4 campaigns, I very much welcome this suggestion!!!

/signed 100%

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Dunno if I've posted in this thread but I see no downside to this suggestion. it's one of the few titles if it were a title that would actually mean something. I mean, you have a title for how many drinks/sweets/party items you consume, you ahve a title for missions completed, areas vanquished, % of the map uncovered...why not for quests too? It makes sense.Makes more sense than the consumable titles anyway, just farm farm farm buy buy buy brag brag brag. This way it encourages people to actually play the game through instead of running to the key outposts and farming the rest of it.

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

/signed

some quests are actually pretty funny to do, but most people ignore them cause, well, they don't realy give you anything decent.