Rank 12 Zaishen Title - an Analysis

You mean you are going to tell me that this guy had over 4000 keys already in his stores? Assuming he got it all with faction, thats over 20 million BFaction he would need to get that high, which not many people have, if there is even anyone with 20mil.

reportedly the leader of [DVDF] is one rich mofo, but she wont confirm it. and there are a couple of people who are rich, like the first mini panda ever sold went for something like 32mil, the buyer mustve got the money some how

true and i still think that the title was a great idea, who cares if no1 maxes it

No, but high level GvGers had many thousands of reward points just sitting there. That's the nice thing about the reward point counter .. .you don't have to do anything. Just keep winning tournaments and it keeps going up. Those same people have been trading their faction for keys since available, and many of the are rich in PvE too. R9 is very doable to these people.

the title is another worthless gold sink, that takes even less talent than the emotes in HA to achieve. great. i love skill>time..

Crack is not supposed to be maxable.

Personally I think rank 7 is when HoM should consider it an achivement.

Ah darn loads thing changes in 10days i havent played.. So new title? o.O

I hope you sincerely do not think Anet thinks made this as a prestige title. This is meant only for fun, and it is very clear to me that it is that way.

Ugh. You're about the 500th person I've heard describe this title as a gold sink. It is NOT.

A gold sink by definition is a mechanism by which gold LEAVES the game. This balances the fact that gold is constantly entering the game, and is intended to limit inflation.

Titles like this only transfer gold from one person to another - NOT a gold sink - just a fun diversion. IMO Guildwars could really use more true gold sinks.

Want a textbook gold sink? Gambling in Diablo2. You traded large amounts of gold for (usually) worthless crap. In GuildWars, FoW armor is a good example.

the one thing u have to understand is when u open the chest you have odds of getting very rare items if ur opening it in such large amounts u have better odds , lets say u get an everlasting tonic, a voltaic etc etc u can almost make back about 1/4 or more of your money. You have to calculate that in their as well

my 2 cents.

Zen , OUT.

I see most top pvpers sell their z keys... like some guys in high end.
Most probably dont care about it but I guess maybe some do

hard core GvGer will get high rank very fast.

I play AT as guest for rank ~200-500 Guilds almost everyday (around 5-6 AT / week ) still manage to get 1 full stack of Z-Keys to sell every month.

Imagine about top rank Guilds who always win AT, how many Z-keys they gonna make .....

Great, they put time and effort into the game. Anyone can do that, all they have to do is have no life.

I will play AoC and earn things through skill, whilst you can stay on GW and grind for stupid text. Enjoy.

Not true. Most of the people in the festival games are retards. If you are lacking one retard on your team - great! That's less points he'll give to the other team.

In dragon arena for example, 3 skilled players would beat 6 headless chickens. It was easy for people to leech gamer points.

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How do you even _trade_ 32 million. Other Minipets with a value greater than 250 ecto? Armbrace stacks (heh)?
Scary stuff.

I agree with the OP; the title works as a concept. A target for grind-lovers to go for, and a shiny emote for those that want. Everyone knows how simple it is to get the early ranks, so no point being bitter about people /zranking your corpse.

I disagree with the economics. Already there's way more sellers than buyers. I'd argue that many title hunters are only interested in GWAMM, so will dismiss this title as unmaxable. Coupled with the montly influx of TRPs I say keys will fall to ~4k within 2-3 months and be 3k or less by the end of the year.

I think the price of keys will consistently be between 4-5k each month because people will always be buying keys to get this months tonic or saving up a bunch for next months tonic.

R12 is hard to achieve so what R15 Is hard to achieve in HA i just think the ranks could have been made better instead of the allegiance ones>.>

Don't forget that if you were a rich PvEer wanting to burn 100 million on this, you would get a fair return from all those Z keys (rare skins, sweets, alcohol, tonics) so you'd probably get a few million back so it wouldn't be as simple as throwing the money away.

Well they're not really starting at nothing. Gotta remember that they opened the chest 4000 times, that's a lot of stuff, and plenty of stuff to resell.

I dont get it. I thought dupeing was fixed? your saying people can dupe keys?