Skill most deserving an update.

Juk3n

Juk3n

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Tyria

Astral Guard [AG]

W/R

Just curious about players personal opinions, after 3 years, there has been a skill which ive always hovered the cursor over but unfortunatley i could never quite find room for it in my bar, that skill being..

Warriors Cunning - my candidate for most deserving of an update.
Reason - the recharge oh the recharge :-(


So what is the skill you feel is most deserving of an update?

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

PnH cause its an elite and crap

Fatty tank

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

I agree the recharge time on WC is way to high, maybe it should be like 30 or 45 seconds. Anyway I think I would have to choose Keystone Signet, I mean seriously can anyone show me a good working build that would use that?

Elite Signet. All of your signets except Keystone Signet are recharged. All of your non-signet skills are disabled for 17...7 seconds

Aidan Taylor

Aidan Taylor

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

A barren, God-forsaken nowhere...

Ravenz of Darkstone [RoD]

D/

omg, yes- I had a guildie run a mesmer that was 7 signets, and 1 skill- Ether Lord. He shut soooo much stuff down, it was nuts- not to mention, funny as hell!

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

Peace and Harmony.
It's the bastard child of the monk skilllines.

matti90

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

ym

Mo/

Quote:
omg, yes- I had a guildie run a mesmer that was 7 signets, and 1 skill- Ether Lord. He shut soooo much stuff down, it was nuts- not to mention, funny as hell! I'm sure it works well in AB/RA but I doubt you'd have any success with it at any higher level.

Enough about that though, my candidate for an update is Xinrae's Weapon. That spell has potential to be so interesting and yet it's sitting at a 25 energy cost with a somewhat bad effect considering the cost. Either lower the cost a bit and shorten the recharge or increase the duration and time disabled.

Rhys

Rhys

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

MA

D/W

Hard to name one skill most deserving, so here's a couple for thought...

Chaos Storm (bad in every way)
Persistance of Memory / Symbolic Celerity (redundant, e-cost, ench)
Elemental Flame (only use is for covering hexes)
Shroud of Silence (...)
Resurrect (can't be justified in comparison to other hard resses)
Orison of Healing (obligatory)
Wastrel's Collapse (5 seconds!)

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

[wastrel's collapse]
["watch yourself"]

nuff said
i want WY back the way it was!

Boogz

Boogz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Variable Speed Farmers[VsF]

Mo/

[Unyielding Aura] yay for elite res.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[[ignorance], pretty nice skill however huge energy cost

change it to a [[signet of humility] for signets imo

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

[ravenous gaze]

i dare you to find a use for that skill

Shinjinbukai

Shinjinbukai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Palo Alto, California

Zealots of Shiverpeak[ZoS]

Mo/

can anyone say, "Incoming!" that skill needs to be fixed in pve again. pvp ruined it

Syron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

[skill]life sheath[/skill] needs to trigger _after_ other prot-enchantments

[skill]healing light[/skill] just compare it to WoH or even GoL <.< 5 | 3/4 | 4 and 110 (@14) or something

Koudelka

Koudelka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

England

The Khaotic Empire (TKE)

Me/Mo

Assassin:
Shroud of Silence
... no comment needed.

Monk:
Convert Hexes
I must be the only monk in gw that actually uses this from time to time.

Mesmer:
Persistence of Memory
As a mesmer I've really tried to use this, but when you play as a mesmer, interruptions are very rare due to fc.

Ele:
Shard Storm
10 sec recharge...

I'll conjure up a few more.

*EDIT* Oh and pretty much every paragon skill ><.

snaek

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

[ravenous gaze]

Derrick the Nomad

Derrick the Nomad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Gear Trick

E/R

[gust] -what is the point of knocking someone down once every 20 seconds and only if they have a very specific hex on them (a lot of water hexes only last up to 5 seconds and this spell has a 1 second cast time -it's just too specific of a condition to be called an elite.)

[glimmering mark] -the hex should be applied to an area of foes like mark of rodgort.


I'm really tired of the water line getting the shaft: many of the skills could get reworked but these ones are just crimes.

[mirror of ice] -compare this to reversal of damage and this makes no sense as an elite skill.

[mist form] -again this is kind of crappy for an elite: compare it to [shadow form]

[slippery ground] -WHY KNOCKDOWN SOMEONE WHO IS ALREADY BLIND? this is the most worthless skill in guildwars.

[swirling aura] -because of the recharge its just as bad as mist form and even then it wouldn't go on anyone's skill bar.

[winter's embrace] -compare this to [grasping earth] and it just seems silly.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinjinbukai
can anyone say, "Incoming!" that skill needs to be fixed in pve again. pvp ruined it PvP didn't ruin it. ANet ruined it by creating it.

However, I believe now the PvP/PvE split will suffice. BUFF THIS GUY TO SY STYLE!!!

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Incoming needs the Watch Yourself treatment.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggles
[ravenous gaze]

i dare you to find a use for that skill Angorodons thank you for listing this as a skill to buff. They like one-shotting clueless travelers through any form of prot or +armor.

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Beastmastery line.

please

I beg you

How could they waste such an awesome concept.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derrick the Nomad
[gust] -what is the point of knocking someone down once every 20 seconds and only if they have a very specific hex on them (a lot of water hexes only last up to 5 seconds and this spell has a 1 second cast time -it's just too specific of a condition to be called an elite.) what's the point of knocking someone down 3/10 seconds. [[Wail of Doom] disables for 4 seconds and is called overpowered. It also just disabled you instead of knocking down

I Can Cure Cancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Dark Empire [DE]

E/

Imo some elites that really shouldn't be elite are SoS, PnH, Ravenous Gaze, Unyielding Aura, and Amity all deserve some huge buffs to even be up to "elite" status.

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derrick the Nomad
[gust] -what is the point of knocking someone down once every 20 seconds and only if they have a very specific hex on them (a lot of water hexes only last up to 5 seconds and this spell has a 1 second cast time -it's just too specific of a condition to be called an elite.)
Its an elite gale with 1 sec longer KD and dmg XD

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

60% of pve skills do and wells, BM, tactics, blood

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

[dwarven battle stance]

'nuff said.

and what on earth in wrong with ravenous gaze? its 100+ armor ignoring damage! youre gunna have infusing vampires in HA if this gets buffed any more

actual skill:

[Sandstorm] i want to justify playing a pure earth ele in PvP again

MisterT69

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/

[Ether Renewal] lest we forget

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Tactics. I want my attribute line back. Sure, most skills are useless for general PvE but meh.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
Its an elite gale with 1 sec longer KD and dmg XD
I always quite liked Gale. As Air Elites go, it's not as bad as some, though it's still outclassed by the likes of Blinding Surge and Invoke Lightning.

Since we're on Air Elites, [Glimmering Mark]. I feel it wouldn't hurt to give it a buff. I'm thinking something like:
"For 1...21 seconds, whenever target foe suffers lightning damage, that foe takes an additional 0...10 lightning damage and that foe and all adjacent foes suffer from blindness for 3...6 seconds."

Or alternatively:
"For 1...21 seconds, whenever target foe suffers lightning damage, that foe and all adjacent foes suffer from blindness for 3...6 seconds and cracked armor for 7...16 seconds."

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Song of Restoration.
Elite motivation chant.Heals for a semi-decent amount.But a LONG ass recharge time!

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Song of Restoration.
Elite motivation chant.Heals for a semi-decent amount.But a LONG ass recharge time! yes they should buff it to 5 sec recharge, pls pls pls

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
Its an elite gale with 1 sec longer KD and dmg XD Not only that, but it's conditional and has a longer recharge!

Dwarven Battlestance doesn't end on attack skills. GOGO!!!

BrokenSymmetry

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

[Scavenger's focus] It does less additional damage than [Glass arrows], and it's conditional!

uby

uby

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokenSymmetry
[Scavenger's focus] It does less additional damage than [Glass arrows], and it's conditional! don't forget that it costs MORE energy and has SHORTER duration as well!

lol who designed that skill

NYC Elite

NYC Elite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by uby
don't forget that it costs MORE energy and has SHORTER duration as well!

lol who designed that skill But guys, Scavenger's affects ALL weapons, that MORE than makes up for it. /endsarcasm

Mending.... 'nuff said. *Dodges trash thrown*

Teh [prefession]-zorz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

wisconsin

Spiders Lair Kurz [SpL]

W/A

Ether Renewal

/lol

Yuhe Ji

Yuhe Ji

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Los Angeles

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokenSymmetry
[Scavenger's focus] It does less additional damage than [Glass arrows], and it's conditional! If they buffed it, it would be only too easy for other physical classes to abuse it. Think about an assassin with a condition-causing lead attack or a paragon with barbed spear. Now its energy cost and effects are ridiculous so no one uses it.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji
If they buffed it, it would be only too easy for other physical classes to abuse it. Think about an assassin with a condition-causing lead attack or a paragon with barbed spear. Now its energy cost and effects are ridiculous so no one uses it. You could spec into a conjure and get more damage.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Incoming needs the Watch Yourself treatment. If you mean ~10 sec, ~10 sec duration recharge and only good for up to 3 hits, i am signed in!


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Anyway, since there is no way updates wont happen i can as well add my 5cents:

[chaos storm]

5 energy, 1 cast, 5 recharge: that way it is super spammable and enables some nuking

[Spiritual Pain]

AoE unconditional

[mirror of ice]

target ally please.

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

[Vocal Was Sogolon] --> I'd like to change this into an Elite Weapon Spell that instead of an Item Spell.

bj91x

bj91x

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

[skill]ursan blessing[/skill][skill]volfen blessing[/skill][skill]raven blessing[/skill]

Make all 3 skills "above average" (instead of ridiculously powerful or useless) and allow the players to use the remaining 3 slots for their skill of choice to promote build creativity.

Nothing is more boring than pre-made builds.