Zaishen Chest for PvE people!

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
Ehhh... that's the tournament reward guy...
Click him, you will see the Buy zaishen keys with tournament reward points/Buy zaishen keys with balthazar faction options.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Duh... I know all that. I'm looking for the merchant that takes gold, seeing as how everyone is going on about it being a PvE title and one can farm gold and buy keys.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Too bad you don't read, buddy.



Quote:
I'm looking for the merchant that takes gold
Didn't take long.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
Duh... I know all that. I'm looking for the merchant that takes gold, seeing as how everyone is going on about it being a PvE title and one can farm gold and buy keys.
You can buy this title with PvE gold.

Hero/Champ you actually have to slightly play for it.

This you can buy. It's a PvE title.

Dead Mushmul

Dead Mushmul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/

Next Idea:PvE HA and PvE GvG

I Will Heal You Ally

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

LOL PvE HA is already on... hero farm runs... you pay they deliver :P

yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

How about a FOW or UW chest everytime you win a match in RA?

Sparks Dawnbringer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

none

E/Mo

Well, if you don't want us to have the zaishen chest, how about utilizing Luxon,Kursick, Norn, etc and giving us separate keys for them.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sparks, what the hell are you on about?

You already have access to the Zaishen Chest, as does anybody else.

Cash can buy keys from players.
Balthazar Faction and Tournament Reward Points can buy keys from the [Tournament] guy.

And if you ask me, the people with the most money has the highest chance of getting the title first.

Maybe high end GvG'ers will get it quicker via AT's.

Everyone has a chance at getting it, so how don't you have access? Stop being such an idiot or stop posting. Your choice.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Too bad you don't read, buddy.




Didn't take long.
Wait a minute... are you suggesting I'd have to interact with other players in order to achieve a PvE title? I still don't get it.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

The point is it's accessable to PvE'ers, for extreme ease.

Stop posting or post something decent.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
Wait a minute... are you suggesting I'd have to interact with other players in order to achieve a PvE title? I still don't get it.
Quote:
I'm looking for the merchant that takes gold
Dang, you have no idea what do you want, eh?

Well, here it is. Merchants that take gold and give you keys so you can have your title. Exactly what you wanted.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Dang, you have no idea what do you want, eh?

Well, here it is. Merchants that take gold and give you keys so you can have your title. Exactly what you wanted.
I know perfectly well what I want and it's not this 'my title'. Oh, and the merchants I'm used to dealing with all have their names in green and [merchant] behind their names. They also don't move around and talk in some obscure chat mode. I'm starting to think there are no such merchants that sell Zaishen keys. Oh well...

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
I know perfectly well what I want and it's not this 'my title'. Oh, and the merchants I'm used to dealing with all have their names in green and [merchant] behind their names. They also don't move around and talk in some obscure chat mode. I'm starting to think there are no such merchants that sell Zaishen keys. Oh well...
Wrong. Just that you have to get used to blue name tags now and people that can talk, walk up to the customer (and not the other way round), say "thanks" once a trade is done or even "enjoy your day" ... horrible isn't it?
I would follow your train of thought If you could enlighten us what your sarcasm is about. Because your "I want to buy zkeys with gold" doesn't make sense. You can buy them now and that very easily even in bigger chunks.

What's your problem Sir?

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
I'm starting to think there are no such merchants that sell Zaishen keys. Oh well...
Right, the screenshots I posted didn't happen.
You can buy z-keys, you can buy the title. Simple as that. Only dumbasses don't get it. Oh well...

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by EinherjarMx
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/PvP_reward there's your "fow armor is for pve chars only"
Hmm, k, somethign new to me, didn't know of that yet XD But in the end its the same.. you just need to play iwth your PvP HCaracter enough PvP, until you have neough tournament tokens ect. to unlock for your pvp character the fow armor for your account.

So this links is a perfect prove thefore, that PvP characters don't need to have money and should have no concent with that they CAN make money, and that alot better and much faster, than pve characters could ever in the same amount of effort it takes.

And to balance that, the only way would be to "customize" Z-keys or make them in general not tradeable/sellable to any merchants (so 0g at npc merchs)

This way players with z-key farming pvp characters could not becoem in shorttiem through these keys uber rich, those keys would immediately stop ruinign the games economy.

And most important: keys would become that, what they should be intented to be: rewards for playing pvp and getting Balthazar Points.

Then needs only the Z-Chest a tweak, that the chest will drop different thigns in regard of, if a pve character opens it, or if a pvp character opens it and things would all be fine.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by timebandit
Wrong. Just that you have to get used to blue name tags now and people that can talk, walk up to the customer (and not the other way round), say "thanks" once a trade is done or even "enjoy your day" ... horrible isn't it?
I would follow your train of thought If you could enlighten us what your sarcasm is about. Because your "I want to buy zkeys with gold" doesn't make sense. You can buy them now and that very easily even in bigger chunks.

What's your problem Sir?
My problem is the blatant stupidity in calling the Zaishen title a PvE title just because we can buy keys from other players. It doesn't follow.

By the same measure, we could call the Wisdom title a PvP title because PvP characters could trade Zaishen keys for unidentified rares. That makes exactly the same amount of sense, which is none at all.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
I know perfectly well what I want and it's not this 'my title'. Oh, and the merchants I'm used to dealing with all have their names in green and [merchant] behind their names. They also don't move around and talk in some obscure chat mode. I'm starting to think there are no such merchants that sell Zaishen keys. Oh well...
Cool, thanks for expanding on what you want. NPCs.

Don't PvE'ers already have access to the Zaishen Chest? Yes. I should not have to look into that for the millionth time for clueless people.

Please stop trolling.

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
My problem is the blatant stupidity in calling the Zaishen title a PvE title just because we can buy keys from other players. It doesn't follow.

By the same measure, we could call the Wisdom title a PvP title because PvP characters could trade Zaishen keys for unidentified rares. That makes exactly the same amount of sense, which is none at all.
Let's cut with the foreplay and just call it a gold buyers title.
I have almost exactly 2 million balth faction which is WAY more than quite a few people in GW and if we retrofit that with keys that would be 400 Z Keys.

400 keys * 5 pts each gives 2000 Z points which would make me a rank 4 (Ally of the Zaishen) and thats assuming I spent 100% of my balth faction on keys and not unlocking all skills and tournament tokens.

Sure theres a few people in GW that probably have 10 million+ balth faction but that only gets you to rank 7.

Revan Bastille

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ebon Hawk

Blood of the Martyr [Hope]

E/Me

So to prevent people buying another title, why not make this title based on an account's total earned Balthazar faction? You can't buy that... (unless you start buying accounts, which we all (should) know is against the EULA.)

Hmm... and after re-reading the previous post, maybe reduce the amount of faction required for ranks?

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

/notsign
just farm the gold and farm the computer every day to get your faction.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
So to prevent people buying another title, why not make this title based on an account's total earned Balthazar faction? You can't buy that... (unless you start buying accounts, which we all (should) know is against the EULA.)
Golden Flame of Balthazar.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
The Zaishen Chest is for PvE people.

who told you that?

The Z chest is for PvP players who are UAX (this means nothing left to buy from the priest) b4 the zchest we had 1 option buy tourny tokens or let the faction fill to its limit and lose all the other faction that one would earn.


Pve has chest LOTS of chest in every area in the game they even get alot of End area reward chests that are free to open.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
who told you that?

The Z chest is for PvP players who are UAX
And who told you that?
All I see in GToB is pvers wanting to buy z keys because they want an emote but are too pathetic to earn even bambi in ha.

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

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i hardly believe that all those who have r2 drunkard, sweet tooth and party animal farmed ALL the damned items to get 10k pts

my bet is that they bought them either to the npc (that would be plain stupid) or trading with people. Anyway those titles were bought, why should this title be different?

zchest is for pve, just like any other item ingame, the only difference is that pvpers pay with faction/rp and pvers pay with cash

RiceCream

RiceCream

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Savannah, GA

[MH]

wts 50 keys 250k, pve title right?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
The Z chest is for PvP players who are UAX (this means nothing left to buy from the priest) b4 the zchest we had 1 option buy tourny tokens or let the faction fill to its limit and lose all the other faction that one would earn.
Yeah, because a UAX PvP Character would need tomes / sweets / beer?

Sure, people use PvE characters in PvP, but then again, would they really need tomes when they most probably have the most favourable elites captured?

When they would most probably have those nice weapon skins already?

The only thing this gives to people who play PvP really, is money. Money for guild halls which will be most probably all they need.