(NOTE: This topic is completely serious.)
So, now that I am getting a laptop which can play games at a reasonable quality (i.e. 60 FPS), I've decided to replay Guild Wars to see the big changes in gameplay and graphics that would result. (Plus, it's free.)
So...how exactly would I do that? My primary character, a Necromancer of course, has beaten most of the game anyways. (Protector of all 3 continents, I don't care about Hard Mode). However, when I play as another character, I feel much, much weaker, so it's annoying.
I've tried a Ranger, Elementalist, Ritualist, Monk...nothing has stuck for me in terms of paralleling my Necromancer. I refuse to try an Assassin or Paragon (both seem boring in PvE and broken in PvP), so I guess my only options of creating a Dervish, Warrior, or Mesmer.
I have no clue how to enjoy Guild Wars again. Obviously, I've been angry at ArenaNet for their lack of competance...but hey, it's free, and you get what you pay for.
I do have 200k in storage to buffer up any character I have or might make, and I will buy EotN soon.
What should I be doing?
Replaying Guild Wars
Zinger314
shoyon456
Warrior has alot of options since its a core class, however I found playing one extremely boring, and have deleted a total of 3 (yes, i tried 3 times to get used to it and got bored every time)
Mesmer is great, but if you like alot of pve id suggest dervish.
Also, my main is a derv so thats my obvious bias. Dervs are great, but you're kind of forced into using a godform, seeing as how any other class can use the scythe attacks effectiently.
But if you plan on ursan'ing once you get eotn... warrior. Grps in ToA are racist against my derv every time i try to get into an ursan grp XD
Mesmer is great, but if you like alot of pve id suggest dervish.
Also, my main is a derv so thats my obvious bias. Dervs are great, but you're kind of forced into using a godform, seeing as how any other class can use the scythe attacks effectiently.
But if you plan on ursan'ing once you get eotn... warrior. Grps in ToA are racist against my derv every time i try to get into an ursan grp XD
StormDragonZ
If you can't find a way to enjoy something, you shouldn't be playing with it at all.
Ontopic: Warriors and Mesmers can be fun.
Ontopic: Warriors and Mesmers can be fun.
Loot Junkie
I have to agree with ya syria, everything feels weak compared to necro for me too. Have you given rits a try? Like necros, they're very versatile.
Malice Black
Paragon can be good fun, just stay clear of the lame Imbagon build.
I never found the game to have much re-playability though.
I never found the game to have much re-playability though.
Zinger314
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I have to agree with ya syria, everything feels weak compared to necro for me too. Have you given rits a try? Like necros, they're very versatile.
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Squishy ftw
Warrior.
Add a hero with splinter weapon and whack away.
Add a hero with splinter weapon and whack away.
DarkNecrid
Warrior. They are amazing fun if you like killing things, and assuming you don't do the god mode warrior, tons of different ways to do it.
Molock
Dervish and Warrior are both fun imo.. although it can sometimes be harder to get into a PuG as a dervish, not that you would want to PuG.
credit
Monk and Dervish are my favourite in PvE.
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I've tried a Ranger, Elementalist, Ritualist, Monk...nothing has stuck for me in terms of paralleling my Necromancer. I refuse to try an Assassin or Paragon (both seem boring in PvE and broken in PvP), so I guess my only options of creating a Dervish, Warrior, or Mesmer. |
Of the three you mention as choices ... i guess Dervish is strongest due to the semblance of AoE. Pretty much anything single-target feels weak.
I'm curious .. what anet incompetence has made you so angry? They've made mistakes sure but overall I think they've done a fabulous job. I've never played any game 1/4 as much as this and judging by the fact that you are back you must like it pretty well too.
Red Sand
When I refused to be a healer in another MMO, I made a warrior. For kicks. Nothing serious. A toon to learn the game.
I tried other classes but I kept going back to the warrior. Funny that the only one I kept for more than 6 levels was the necro, but I keep deleting my other toons and going back to warrior.
That's PvE of course. For PvP I split my time between Warrior and Ranger.
Melandru loves Rangers.
I tried other classes but I kept going back to the warrior. Funny that the only one I kept for more than 6 levels was the necro, but I keep deleting my other toons and going back to warrior.
That's PvE of course. For PvP I split my time between Warrior and Ranger.
Melandru loves Rangers.
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My Rit has had the second-most playtime of all my characters (I popularized the Ritual Lord build way back then, after all). However, after all the spirit nerfs, Rits just seem like they are hybrid Monks/Elementalists now. I might retry my Rit if I get Draw Spirit, but alas, it's too much effort.
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Snograt
I'm in the same boat as you. Got a bit bored with the final 4 titles for GWAMM so made yet another new Warrior - about my 4th, I think.
Warriors are great for mindless fun. However, I did find Paragons to be full of joy too.
My original char is a WAR, and my most-played is a Ranger. 21 characters and at least one of each class. Didn't get on with Mesmers too well, or Monks. I think that's because they're the two classes that require the most skill
Warriors are great for mindless fun. However, I did find Paragons to be full of joy too.
My original char is a WAR, and my most-played is a Ranger. 21 characters and at least one of each class. Didn't get on with Mesmers too well, or Monks. I think that's because they're the two classes that require the most skill
Omnidragon42
I love my Warrior, with over 1000 hours play time. Honestly, I've been able to have fun in PVE with every class, some more than others. Elementalist's are fun to play because you can see all the numbers, Assassins are fun with Death Blossom and teleporting, Monks keep people alive, or you can smite people if you're feeling vindictive.
I'd say try the Warrior first, there's a lot of versatility and strength there. If that doesn't work for you, you might want to try the Mesmer because there are some similarities between Mesmers and the Necromancer curses line, in terms of hexing the crap out of stuff to kill it.
I'd say try the Warrior first, there's a lot of versatility and strength there. If that doesn't work for you, you might want to try the Mesmer because there are some similarities between Mesmers and the Necromancer curses line, in terms of hexing the crap out of stuff to kill it.
Kavadas
Warrior and paragon are both a lot of fun. I like my warrior quite a bit as I have a deep fascination with ancient Rome and have built my character to look and act like an Imperial legionary (Elonian Gladius, Tower Shield, Elite Gladiator leggings and greaves, Tyrian gauntlets, Ancient cuirass, and Sunspear helmet).
I'm pretty attached to that character and love PvPing with him.
I'm pretty attached to that character and love PvPing with him.
mazza558
If you intend to play again, my advice to you is to try and play through a new character with no access to any others (e.g don't use storage and that sizeable stash of gold waiting for you. This way you don't skip parts of the game, and it'll probably feel a bit more challenging.
farmerfez
warrior because what could be better than hitting stuff with three different weapons 
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warrior because what could be better than hitting stuff with three different weapons
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Zesbeer
i would revisit the rit if you like necros. there very similar also what kind of each of thouse classed did you try because a fire ele plays differently then like an earth ele.
Alleji
Mesmer is probably the only class I don't fall asleep on while PvEing.
But yeah, in terms of power, nothing will match up to necro obviously. You had a warlock in WoW too, didn't you? Imba class addict. :P
But yeah, in terms of power, nothing will match up to necro obviously. You had a warlock in WoW too, didn't you? Imba class addict. :P
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Darcy
My warrior is my main character and I have a great time with her. I switch out her skills for different areas just to enjoy the change.
The dervish I created for NF, I found to be very boring in the end no matter how I changed the build.
The dervish I created for NF, I found to be very boring in the end no matter how I changed the build.
Alleji
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Can I ask how many games your company has made that have been as successful as Guild Wars?
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Zinger314
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Mesmer is probably the only class I don't fall asleep on while PvEing.
But yeah, in terms of power, nothing will match up to necro obviously. You had a warlock in WoW too, didn't you? Imba class addict. :P |
To be honest, I'm leaning more toward Mesmer myself. I just like casters.
But waiting until the PvE/PvP split happens would be a good idea, as stated.
Nightow
If you're set on playing your rit but dislike playing a Resto/channeling hybrid, wait and see if they revert the nerfs to spirits or you can try a [Spirit's Strength] build (Rt/P or Rt/R for survivability, Rt/A for crazy damage) with [weapon of aggression], [vital weapon] or have an ally toss [great dwarf weapon] on you every now and then.
SimonTheMaster
I find the Necro, Monk and Ele and really enjoyable.
Dervish may be strong but wuite boring to play... Same thing with warrior... I got bored so much with my warrior that I use him as a mule now :0
Dervish may be strong but wuite boring to play... Same thing with warrior... I got bored so much with my warrior that I use him as a mule now :0
Deleet
I actually find it somewhat funny to play assassin in PvE. My opinion:
Warrior, boring and solid.
Monk, boring and frustrating with stupid AI.
Mesmer, funny even though their skills are not that great for PvE. Good thing about mesmers is that c+space doesn't work. You have to think, interrupt and so on.
Dervish is okay.
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Really, find a mate a play through hard mode, that is somewhat challenging at times. Vanquishing is enormously boring, especially alone. Really, playing alone sucks, no matter what you do. I only play GW when I can play with friends now.
Warrior, boring and solid.
Monk, boring and frustrating with stupid AI.
Mesmer, funny even though their skills are not that great for PvE. Good thing about mesmers is that c+space doesn't work. You have to think, interrupt and so on.
Dervish is okay.
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Really, find a mate a play through hard mode, that is somewhat challenging at times. Vanquishing is enormously boring, especially alone. Really, playing alone sucks, no matter what you do. I only play GW when I can play with friends now.
cellardweller
I've found the warriors and protection monks show the greatest correlation between player ability and character effect and as such are the most rewarding to play in the long run.
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I've found the warriors and protection monks show the greatest correlation between player ability and character effect and as such are the most rewarding to play in the long run.
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Nevin
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(I popularized the Ritual Lord build way back then, after all).
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cebalrai
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(NOTE: This topic is completely serious.)
So, now that I am getting a laptop which can play games at a reasonable quality (i.e. 60 FPS), I've decided to replay Guild Wars to see the big changes in gameplay and graphics that would result. (Plus, it's free.) So...how exactly would I do that? My primary character, a Necromancer of course, has beaten most of the game anyways. (Protector of all 3 continents, I don't care about Hard Mode). However, when I play as another character, I feel much, much weaker, so it's annoying. I've tried a Ranger, Elementalist, Ritualist, Monk...nothing has stuck for me in terms of paralleling my Necromancer. I refuse to try an Assassin or Paragon (both seem boring in PvE and broken in PvP), so I guess my only options of creating a Dervish, Warrior, or Mesmer. I have no clue how to enjoy Guild Wars again. Obviously, I've been angry at ArenaNet for their lack of competance...but hey, it's free, and you get what you pay for. I do have 200k in storage to buffer up any character I have or might make, and I will buy EotN soon. What should I be doing? |
As you said, you have no idea how to enjoy GW anymore. Nothing that you're doing right now is going to change that...
Holly Herro
Warrior I think
Very fun, very versatile and they make good PvPers too! It just looks so cool when they're in RA with full glads, dyed PINK! ;D
Very fun, very versatile and they make good PvPers too! It just looks so cool when they're in RA with full glads, dyed PINK! ;D
pumpkin pie
Hey there Zinger,
I am replaying Guild Wars as we speak, not because I have a new computer or anything, I am making this on my secondary account that only has prophecies + faction. which I plan to purchase Nightfall whenever Guild Wars decided to have a sale where I can get.
okay, I wanted to replay characters on this account because I want a "perfect" characters on it including max survivor title and all the pve titles, so far I've made 3, and my advise to you is:
Play a profession that you don't think you like or are comfortable playing. because I think eventually you will get to love playing them (all profession as I have discovers) you must play it as if you have never play guild wars before and to do that you got to play a profession that is your least likely choice, if you start a necro again, its will be very easy, and will be the same since you already know what to expect.
Also, start from Shing Jea Monastary. It is much faster reaching level 20s. It will gives you a boost when you are not playing your favourite profession, and will take out the "why is it taking so long - drag" out of the equation.
Another thing, now that you know all about playing Guild Wars, you can apply those when you start a new characters, things like pop-ups, this usually kill someone's character that is going for survivor when they least expects it, and you will now know to make "max-armor" whenever possible, I think Guild Wars place armor maker at different points is telling players "its time to change to a higher armor, armor", anyway, you know, little things, then there's the challenge of making build out of very little skills.
now that is going to be fun. finding skill to put on your skill bar. well 3 years ago that would be even harder, but now since you are a veteran GW players, you should know from playing a necromancer, what are the skills you fear most from other professions, use those on your new character. well at least that's what i've been doing.
Have fun!
I am replaying Guild Wars as we speak, not because I have a new computer or anything, I am making this on my secondary account that only has prophecies + faction. which I plan to purchase Nightfall whenever Guild Wars decided to have a sale where I can get.
okay, I wanted to replay characters on this account because I want a "perfect" characters on it including max survivor title and all the pve titles, so far I've made 3, and my advise to you is:
Play a profession that you don't think you like or are comfortable playing. because I think eventually you will get to love playing them (all profession as I have discovers) you must play it as if you have never play guild wars before and to do that you got to play a profession that is your least likely choice, if you start a necro again, its will be very easy, and will be the same since you already know what to expect.
Also, start from Shing Jea Monastary. It is much faster reaching level 20s. It will gives you a boost when you are not playing your favourite profession, and will take out the "why is it taking so long - drag" out of the equation.
Another thing, now that you know all about playing Guild Wars, you can apply those when you start a new characters, things like pop-ups, this usually kill someone's character that is going for survivor when they least expects it, and you will now know to make "max-armor" whenever possible, I think Guild Wars place armor maker at different points is telling players "its time to change to a higher armor, armor", anyway, you know, little things, then there's the challenge of making build out of very little skills.
now that is going to be fun. finding skill to put on your skill bar. well 3 years ago that would be even harder, but now since you are a veteran GW players, you should know from playing a necromancer, what are the skills you fear most from other professions, use those on your new character. well at least that's what i've been doing.
Have fun!
Crom The Pale
This is a very subjective thing, personally the only class I didnt have much fun playing was monk.
I would think the closest to Necro in similar variety of builds would be Ritualist. They have a wide array of builds to suit most any role in a party. They can be a nuker, spike dmg dealer, party buffer, spirit spamer, ect...
It does take more effort to find the right skill combo that works for you and allows for good energy managment, far more work than the Necro.
I would think the closest to Necro in similar variety of builds would be Ritualist. They have a wide array of builds to suit most any role in a party. They can be a nuker, spike dmg dealer, party buffer, spirit spamer, ect...
It does take more effort to find the right skill combo that works for you and allows for good energy managment, far more work than the Necro.
pumpkin pie
I have a battery Ritualist skill bar, its not that hard to make, in my opinion, ritualist has more energy return using skill combo then necro's soul reaping in my opinion. (after the nerf that is)
LifeInfusion
my oh my, the cynic returns.
If you are genuinely looking for a new profession to play and are not being sarcastic, I'd say play a Ritualist. You said you like casters, so that's basically your only option without going monk or elementalist (seeing how it has to be not a necro).
Even after the nerfs to spirits, Ritualists are solid support with channeling-restoration hybrids. Like warriors, the primary attribute is not vital for operation other than the skills.
If you are genuinely looking for a new profession to play and are not being sarcastic, I'd say play a Ritualist. You said you like casters, so that's basically your only option without going monk or elementalist (seeing how it has to be not a necro).
Even after the nerfs to spirits, Ritualists are solid support with channeling-restoration hybrids. Like warriors, the primary attribute is not vital for operation other than the skills.
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samifly
I wouldn't recommend doing mesmer if you are looking for PvE. Although I love the class dearly, its not very effective for it.
ThunderStruck
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Now thats a load of shit.
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