Warning to players who use a second account as a mule...
Dzan
...you may be suspended for 72 hours for "buying gold" when you make large transfers. I can only imagine how much of my stuff will be deleted when I finally get to log back in.
Tender Care
Is this true or just a joke?????
I don't see the point in suspending account if u just need to transfer some money to another account.....
I don't see the point in suspending account if u just need to transfer some money to another account.....
Hodgie
but how are anet meant to know if you have bought the gold or if you are putting money on a mule account. Its true what Dzan is saying tbh.
upier
Is this a new ban or is this the same event that we bitched about some time ago?
Holly Herro
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Originally Posted by Tender Care
Is this true or just a joke?????
I don't see the point in suspending account if u just need to transfer some money to another account..... |
"Mule account has traded main account 100k"
"Mule account has traded main account 100k"
"Mule account has traded main account 100k"
"Mule account has traded main account 100k"
"Mule account has traded main account 100k"
Kind of looks like the work of a gold farmer?
Jongo River
Was the OP doing anything supsicious - like having a third party control their second account?
ANet shouldn't be punishing people for trading between 2 accounts on the same IP. Gold sellers would have to visit your house to achieve that and I'm sure travelling costs would wipe out their profits.
ANet shouldn't be punishing people for trading between 2 accounts on the same IP. Gold sellers would have to visit your house to achieve that and I'm sure travelling costs would wipe out their profits.
Dzan
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Originally Posted by Tender Care
Is this true or just a joke?????
I don't see the point in suspending account if u just need to transfer some money to another account..... |
Hodgie
Exactly, so its a price to pay for being rich lol dnt have a mule account jsut have a mule character.
Barrett
Oh great bans for no reason
Lets just get banned for hitting lv20 in one day
because u may have illeagal hacks!!!!!!!!!!
or maybe just played all day in factions
come on is ANet run by a bunch of retards and kids?
Lets just get banned for hitting lv20 in one day
because u may have illeagal hacks!!!!!!!!!!
or maybe just played all day in factions
come on is ANet run by a bunch of retards and kids?
wraithe
i transfer between both accounts often...
i guess it would be plain stupid of them to ban me..
i have both my accounts registered on PlayNC, i dont know if that has kept me away from ban stick..
then again i have heard some crazy stuff lately.
like someone else suggested, when exchanging gold give something to storage account.
i guess it would be plain stupid of them to ban me..
i have both my accounts registered on PlayNC, i dont know if that has kept me away from ban stick..
then again i have heard some crazy stuff lately.
like someone else suggested, when exchanging gold give something to storage account.
majoho
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Originally Posted by Dzan
...you may be suspended for 72 hours for "buying gold" when you make large transfers. I can only imagine how much of my stuff will be deleted when I finally get to log back in.
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obsidian ectoplasm
ahhhh! this sucks big time lucky i only plan one of my accounts so only one of them ever has gold on it
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by majoho
Why would any of your stuff be deleted ?
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*wierd tinfoilf hat conspiracy stuff* Its so that you have to buy egold again because they have deal with RMT. They also ritually kill kittens whenever ursan party wipes. Really.
Kusandaa
I was aware about this, but I actually still use my other account to store some stuff. Back when I was on 3 accounts (owner claimed his back, I now have limited access to it) I'd be able to trade some stuff between 2 accounts fairly easily with GWx2 - I'd sell stuff and would trade MORE stuff for the gold I bought.
Might actually be a way to make it appear as you're selling/buying stuff when trading cash between accounts.
But I should be more careful anyways. This thread pretty much reminded me about that.
Might actually be a way to make it appear as you're selling/buying stuff when trading cash between accounts.
But I should be more careful anyways. This thread pretty much reminded me about that.
MoxieJava
Why do we have second accounts carrying extra gold, its called ecto people, itemize currency that has almost unlimited potential, most games do this if there is a cap to gold in the game that seems to be a bit on the low side, the price in ecto is at a very constant price atm. Try converting some of that extra gold to ecto so you dont have any why of become suspicious. And for those with credit cards you dont need to be going out and buying extra mule account, each account is allowed up to 26 character slots and a slot only costs 10 USD. Dont go out and buy another seperate campaign and pay 40-50 USD try just buying 4 slots at 10 USD that way those characters can access any campaign you have and you still have your mules. Granted you dont get the 1000k storage space but each char can hold 100k plus it is safer then seeing your account get banned for who knows how long.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by MoxieJava
Why do we have second accounts carrying extra gold, its called ecto people, itemize currency that has almost unlimited potential, most games do this if there is a cap to gold in the game that seems to be a bit on the low side, the price in ecto is at a very constant price atm. Try converting some of that extra gold to ecto so you dont have any why of become suspicious. And for those with credit cards you dont need to be going out and buying extra mule account, each account is allowed up to 26 character slots and a slot only costs 10 USD. Dont go out and buy another seperate campaign and pay 40-50 USD try just buying 4 slots at 10 USD that way those characters can access any campaign you have and you still have your mules. Granted you dont get the 1000k storage space but each char can hold 100k plus it is safer then seeing your account get banned for who knows how long.
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miskav
Or you could stop bitching and gtfo out of the thread, kthx? :3
Alexandra-Sweet
It's probably part of Arena Net's awesome master plan against fighting gold sellers.
But it the end it hurts the casual players more, as always.
Simple solution: bigger storage/inventory.
But it the end it hurts the casual players more, as always.
Simple solution: bigger storage/inventory.
Stockholm
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Originally Posted by MoxieJava
Dont go out and buy another seperate campaign and pay 40-50 USD try just buying 4 slots at 10 USD that way those characters can access any campaign you have and you still have your mules.
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Kali Magdalene
That would make me sad, to get suspended for transferring gold from my mule account, when my mule account and my main account are on the same PlayNC account, and both accounts would be logged in from the same IP...from the same computer.
quickmonty
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
Some of us have been around since before the extra slots, duh
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On Topic: I've never transfered large amounts of cash between accounts but I'm always moving stuff from one account to the other. No problems, so far.
BuD
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Originally Posted by Jongo River
ANet shouldn't be punishing people for trading between 2 accounts on the same IP.
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Ok, I had my account info compromised, the thief logs onto my account on his PC in Germany (I live in the States), now he's trading all my gold from my account to his, both now have German IP addresses.
Neither account should be blocked cause they have the same IP?
Divinus Stella
Put something in the trade window each time like a crappy gold item, it wont spark off as much suspicion and will likely avoid the ban.
majikmajikmajik
why even have that much gold, i mean really? why? do you play this game as a job or do you not goto school? its quite pointless to have that much that you need a whole other account just for junk. sorry if it looks like im trollin but its how i feel, not ment to be offiensive in anyway.
Voltar
agreed...this is counterproductive for anet. it would be helpful if you could link accounts...then again, think of all the hall of monument/account-wide titles threads that would spawn.
Esan
This sort of thread just creates fear, uncertainty and doubt. Either the OP is telling the truth and Anet's game administration has truly gone to shit, or the OP is lying about the source of his income and a deserved ban. Until we hear from Anet (which we won't because Anet have stopped paying attention to Guru forums), we have only one side of the story.
Contact support and try to get it resolved. Guru threads about bans go nowhere.
Contact support and try to get it resolved. Guru threads about bans go nowhere.
Amadei
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Originally Posted by MoxieJava
Dont go out and buy another seperate campaign and pay 40-50 USD try just buying 4 slots at 10 USD that way those characters can access any campaign you have and you still have your mules.
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Recently I did have to transfer some ecto, mats and cash over from my primary to my second account (to get the above-mentioned mesmer's FoW armor), but fearing a ban/suspension, I did it in stages, transfering things in small amounts over with the aid of a friend. I did not get banned.
Also, is it really policy Anet deletes Ebayed items? I won't believe that without seeing evidence for this claim.
Tom Swift
I see in one of your posts you used the word "suspended" instead of "ban."
If you were suspended rather than banned it may be they are trying to get a handle on the account hijacking and have suspended the account while they make sure it was not a hijacker taking your gold. Or it may be you were suspended for something other than the gold trade since buying gold usually results in a ban.
Still, it would be nice if ANet could give some kind of response to the seeming rise in hijackings and bannings.
If you were suspended rather than banned it may be they are trying to get a handle on the account hijacking and have suspended the account while they make sure it was not a hijacker taking your gold. Or it may be you were suspended for something other than the gold trade since buying gold usually results in a ban.
Still, it would be nice if ANet could give some kind of response to the seeming rise in hijackings and bannings.
Yawgmoth
They should stop using bots for automated bans, instead they should use human GMs with at least half a brain to make final verdict. Is it really that hard to realise that if 2 accounts logged in from the same IP it just cannot be a case of real money gold selling?
FoxBat
I figured this was common knowledge by now. Yes, its a flag for gold selling, and people have been getting suspended for this for at least a year now.
I'm not saying this isn't hitting the wrong people, but trading gold in 100k increments is just mangling the word "casual" to a bloody pulp.
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Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
But it the end it hurts the casual players more, as always.
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Dylananimus
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Originally Posted by Dzan
Happened last night. I transferred a couple hundred k over to buy some vabbi armor for a new character and when I woke up this morning I was suspended. The mule was not. How odd? I HOPE the mule doesnt get account banned, but this kinda sucks. I now have 66 hours to kill.
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If I'm reading what you wrote right and not getting it switched around...
In essence - with Anet believing this is a suspicious transaction - they banned/suspended the account that received the gold, but not the account that 'sold' the gold.
What does that say about their supposed crackdown on gold sellers? It says they're not touching them...just the stupid people that BUY the gold.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Dylananimus
Nobody has picked up on what you said right there.
If I'm reading what you wrote right and not getting it switched around... In essence - with Anet believing this is a suspicious transaction - they banned/suspended the account that received the gold, but not the account that 'sold' the gold. What does that say about their supposed crackdown on gold sellers? It says they're not touching them...just the stupid people that BUY the gold. |
Conspiracy theories ftw?
FrAnt1c??
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Originally Posted by Barrett
Oh great bans for no reason
Lets just get banned for hitting lv20 in one day because u may have illeagal hacks!!!!!!!!!! or maybe just played all day in factions come on is ANet run by a bunch of retards and kids? |
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Originally Posted by Dylananimus
Nobody has picked up on what you said right there.
If I'm reading what you wrote right and not getting it switched around... In essence - with Anet believing this is a suspicious transaction - they banned/suspended the account that received the gold, but not the account that 'sold' the gold. What does that say about their supposed crackdown on gold sellers? It says they're not touching them...just the stupid people that BUY the gold. |
quickmonty
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Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik
why even have that much gold, i mean really? why? do you play this game as a job or do you not goto school?
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Killed u man
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
They should stop using bots for automated bans, instead they should use human GMs with at least half a brain to make final verdict. Is it really that hard to realise that if 2 accounts logged in from the same IP it just cannot be a case of real money gold selling?
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The sad part is they still keep on saying they have a staff "working" on the ban list every day. I gues Anet employs robots then, maybe I should apply for my Kitchenrobot...
Worse even, the bot script is so bad, more innocent people get banned than guilty ones. (Judging from forums)
Alex the Great
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Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet
It's probably part of Arena Net's awesome master plan against fighting gold sellers.
But it the end it hurts the casual players more, as always. Simple solution: bigger storage/inventory. |
because your run of the mill casual player has over 1000 plat in storage and 100k on each character.
maybe i've just been doing it wrong, because the most i have had in liquid cash/ectos at once was 350k
wanmoke
Anet seems to adopt a "ban first and ask questions later" policy. Which really, really sucks, because it makes me afraid to transfer large sums of money between accounts. This also happened to someone I know. Rawr, it's just plain annoying. They SHOULD be able to tell it's two legit accounts and not a gold seller. *sigh*
Edit to person below me: If you buy a prophecies account, you're getting FOUR character slots, not six. 1.4 million extra gold storage, not 1.6 million.
Edit to person below me: If you buy a prophecies account, you're getting FOUR character slots, not six. 1.4 million extra gold storage, not 1.6 million.
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by MoxieJava
Why do we have second accounts carrying extra gold, its called ecto people, itemize currency that has almost unlimited potential, most games do this if there is a cap to gold in the game that seems to be a bit on the low side, the price in ecto is at a very constant price atm. Try converting some of that extra gold to ecto so you dont have any why of become suspicious. And for those with credit cards you dont need to be going out and buying extra mule account, each account is allowed up to 26 character slots and a slot only costs 10 USD. Dont go out and buy another seperate campaign and pay 40-50 USD try just buying 4 slots at 10 USD that way those characters can access any campaign you have and you still have your mules. Granted you dont get the 1000k storage space but each char can hold 100k plus it is safer then seeing your account get banned for who knows how long.
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Many players are maxed on cash storage. Buying a slot at $10 gives me an extra 100k storage. Buying a Proph account for $29 gives be 1.6M storage 1000k + 6slots(600k)
I don't need to hold 100's of crappy golds, they get merched.
My primary account has storage maxed at 1000k, 10 Characters @ 100k each. I added a new account and have 600k in storage.
I could never play my primary account because I couldn't even pick gold up off of the ground. I would buy a 100k worth of lockpicks to free up money storage on a character then a week or two later it was full again.
Back on topic... I have transfered 600k over the course of a day or two, and had no issues. I did it from two computers behind the same connection so same IP address. I would think this would prevent any ban assuming they look that closely at the facts before swinging the ban stick
Covah
just trade 2-5g or some random item to the mule when he gives you the 100k. Thats what I do when people want me to help transfer stuff.
Kali Magdalene
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Originally Posted by Lycan X
Ok, I had my account info compromised, the thief logs onto my account on his PC in Germany (I live in the States), now he's trading all my gold from my account to his, both now have German IP addresses.
Neither account should be blocked cause they have the same IP? |
This is one of the flags that Blizzard looks for with WoW.
Also, for the people who are getting all scoldy about those of us who have two or more accounts: Arena.net did not add purchasable slots until a few months after Factions was in stores. Prior to Factions, we had four character slots on a single account and no way to add more. That is, short of simply purchasing a second copy of Prophecies.