[rawr] got DELETED

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ectos taste nasty
Wtf? Why is everyone saying it's porn?
Maaaybe they're all disillusioned and think that ANet is perfect and --

Oh wait, this is Riverside...

Tito Bad Boy Ortiz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Fast As A Turtle [WoOm]

lol complete bs if they get their guild back

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

"Famous"...rofl. I bet none of you know any of the players' real names. It's a game. Get over it. If they're that good, their new guild will be right back up there.

I don't see the point of remaking a guild though...you can change GH's, capes, etc. If it's the same name...it's pointless.

ectos taste nasty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

They won't give them the trim,the guild, or the gold because then they would have to for everyone else.

blurmedia

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE [moko]

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
"Famous"...rofl. I bet none of you know any of the players' real names. It's a game. Get over it. If they're that good, their new guild will be right back up there.

I don't see the point of remaking a guild though...you can change GH's, capes, etc. If it's the same name...it's pointless.
It's gonna take a while to "get back up there" when all of their matched last at least 25 minutes regardless of opponent.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Oh well...it's their problem, not yours. I don't see why you're getting all up in arms about it. Living vicariously is fine...just don't // because they decided to start anew.

kerpall

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

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Restoring a guild cape trim sounds alot different than restoring items and gold. Guild cape trims are non-transferrable? It would be the same as Anet restoring a Customized weapon, i doubt there will be serious QQ. I mean, what other guilds got disbanend with gold trims, if any, i doubt many.

jhu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

that sucks, although it's probably not as bad as say, this...

Rift

Rift

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Canada

Virtual Love [kiSu]

That would explain the error I got when I tried to create my new character, Bobby'; DROP TABLE PlatinumGuilds;-- :|

But seriously, there have been a string of these breaches lately. It's sad to see that there are people out there with nothing better to destroy other people's work. I hope this high profile case will make Anet take a serious look at their account security protocols.

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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meh, it sucks. But like ekelon (sp) said its a game, they've gotten over it. I can't see anet giving them their cape back at all.

Nightmares Hammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

Never saw this coming...

Good to hear they remade, though.

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
meh, it sucks. But like ekelon (sp) said its a game, they've gotten over it. I can't see anet giving them their cape back at all.
Some guilds weren't awarded their silver capes anyway, so who's to say rawr recieved their 5th cape yet :P

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

I see the Tall Poppies are sprouting alive and well.

tyrant rex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

if they do remake i hope they at least get a gold cape

and for anyone about to draw a kf comparison , are you really going to defend a guild that got a silver trim once and immediately after went 0-4 lolololol

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enko
if anet does revert their accounts and give back some of the things that they lost, then how come they don't do the same thing for anyone else that got hacked?
Because not every guild has won 5 monthly's, does promotional stuff for Anet to keep the game alive, and get sponsorships.

Thats just a few reasons.

I hope they get everything back. One of the true American Guilds that is still holdin the game down.

http://rawr.justgotowned.com/

Kyomi Tachibana

Kyomi Tachibana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oregon, USA

Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enko
If anet does revert their accounts and give back some of the things that they lost, then how come they don't do the same thing for anyone else that got hacked?
Anet wouldn't be reverting accounts, they'd simply be recreating Rawr and maybe restoring the trim. That's not anywhere near the level of restoring lost items/gold/plat/titles to a player.

C2K

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

They just earned a gold cape over the weekend, they should be allowed to get that back(or whatever color cape they were supposed to get).

As for rank, I really think its a trivial thing. [rawr] might actually enjoy being absent from obs mode for a bit, as it will be harder to scout them.

Divine Slaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Young Money Merger [YM]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by tyrant rex
Hi, I'm dumb.
o ok

12 char

LifesRestorer

LifesRestorer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

London, England

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
If they're that good, their new guild will be right back up there
5 mAT's won under Rebel Rising [rawr]
They were on for platinum cape, something that can only be achieved within a MINIMUM of 5 months work.
Now tell me it's ok for the guild to be gone and say don't worry if they're that good they'll get it back.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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Maybe Anet/NCSoft will finally realise that they can't allow their security vulnerabilities remain this way. Sometimes a high profile case helps get fingers out of butts.

We can probably expect these security changes in 2016.

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

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Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

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It seems a little backwards that they would restore a guild but not players accounts. Sometimes I wonder what A-Net is thinking.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

hm...and regina never did get back to us about that supperdupper secret meeting about the 'exploit' they fixed back on the 13th did she??????

me'thinks that it wasnt very fixed....and now that someone well know got it (sorry to him)...maybe anet will get off their 'its not our problem' and do something????

and the sky is raining money......

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

I hope it all goes well cause I actually like rawr and applaud them for their help to the community.

edwinna elbert

edwinna elbert

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Simple hacking method:

As they have a forum with all sorts of stored details and many people will likely use the same e-mail address/password combination for many different things, it's possible that this was targeted from there. I'd guess it's much easier to find someone's IP from a forum than inside GW, and that can lead to some real hacking.

Bront

Bront

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Honored Order of Light

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
hm...and regina never did get back to us about that supperdupper secret meeting about the 'exploit' they fixed back on the 13th did she??????

me'thinks that it wasnt very fixed....and now that someone well know got it (sorry to him)...maybe anet will get off their 'its not our problem' and do something????

and the sky is raining money......
Actualy, she did, and said that she couldn't discuss the exploit beyond mentioning that it was fixed, and she didn't sound to happy about it.

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Quote:
Originally Posted by natural_Causes
It seems a little backwards that they would restore a guild but not players accounts. Sometimes I wonder what A-Net is thinking.
PvE player accounts are 0.0001 dime a dozen, but there is only one guild that has dominated the GvG landscape for all of recent memory.

itsvictor

itsvictor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Posting in epic thread, anyways it's such a shame to hear, did they even get to enjoy the platinum cape? And for the people say omg they're so good they'll be up there again really fast, you know nothing of how they play. Their "fortressway" build draws the game into VoD, do the math of the amount of games and time. GG.

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by natural_Causes
It seems a little backwards that they would restore a guild but not players accounts. Sometimes I wonder what A-Net is thinking.
People who dont understand that dont know what rawr and other top rated guilds do for the game itself. I suggest you take more of a look and see what rawr does for Anet.

Kula

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

What's trimmed with gold now is the hacker's e-p33n.

I Can Cure Cancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Dark Empire [DE]

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If this doesn't make Anet at least try and fix these hackings then I've seriously lost all faith in Anet. Sucks for rawr and I do hope they get their gold trim back.

I D E L E T E D I

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esan
PvE player accounts are 0.0001 dime a dozen, but there is only one guild that has dominated the GvG landscape for all of recent memory.
Abusing VoD mechanics and relying on E7 to win.

Seriously no matter how much it sucks, that doesn't make them any better than the average player and should not get special Treatment like it has happened in the past

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

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Quote:
Originally Posted by savage vapor 33
People who dont understand that dont know what rawr and other top rated guilds do for the game itself. I suggest you take more of a look and see what rawr does for Anet.
Ya, but I do understand what they do for the game. But how will all the players that got their accounts hacked feel about the this? They may take it as A-net sending the message that they only care about high rated accounts and guilds. If they are being selective about who they care about, it will drive even more players away. Yes, I do know what [rawr] has done, so don't flame. This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Man the hacking grows in this game. GW has the worst security of any MMO/MMORPG I've ever played.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esan
PvE player accounts are 0.0001 dime a dozen, but there is only one guild that has dominated the GvG landscape for all of recent memory.
Player accounts cost real, big-person money. GvG guilds don't cost any money to make, aside from small amounts of imaginary gold.

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I
Abusing VoD mechanics and relying on E7 to win.

Seriously no matter how much it sucks, that doesn't make them any better than the average player and should not get special Treatment like it has happened in the past
I disagree....we see it everyday in the real world. This is fantasy world, so of course it will happen here.

BBesides, rawr has put in THOUSANDS of hours into this game, they deserve to have special treatment. They are good at the game, they help support the game, and they help bring money to the game, of course they deserve special treatment. Do I agree with it? not entirely, do I accept it? yeah.

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

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Quote:
Originally Posted by savage vapor 33
I disagree....we see it everyday in the real world. This is fantasy world, so of course it will happen here.

BBesides, rawr has put in THOUSANDS of hours into this game, they deserve to have special treatment. They are good at the game, they help support the game, and they help bring money to the game, of course they deserve special treatment. Do I agree with it? not entirely, do I accept it? yeah.
But what about all the "normal" people that put thousands of hours into the game, and give their money to A-net for the game, and get hacked, why don't they get "special treatment"?

Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

W/

I wouldn't be surprised if they get "special treatment" from Anet, as they have Andrew Patrick in that guild.

LifesRestorer

LifesRestorer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

London, England

Mo/

quit turning this thread into some stupid pvp vs pve shitter argument

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kula
What's trimmed with gold now is the hacker's e-p33n.
Ahahaha, that's so true. I wish he just had some hubris and went around spamming forums about how he hacked the leader of [rawr], then it'd be so easy to catch him.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang
I wouldn't be surprised if they get "special treatment" from Anet, as they have Andrew Patrick in that guild.
Andrew leads ZoS, not rawr. Unless you mean his GM account is in rawr, then...

SurareVaera

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

E/

I strongly believe that the deletion of [rawr] was a premeditated and malicious invasion of awowa's account. As a recent victim of an account breach myself, where someone stole 300k worth of ectos and shards, I hope Anet seriously investigates the increasingly noticeable rash of security breaches. While I don't expect anyone to care about what I lost, the deletion of a guild that has won 5 gold capes and organized two independent tournaments for the community just absolutely enrages me. I'm sure people that lack empathy find this hilarious, but I am getting increasingly paranoid about the state of security in Guild Wars or the GW fansites. While I haven't won a gold cape, I've poured thousands of hours into my character, and I really wish Anet would institute a method to prevent deletion of certain characters, guilds, or items.


Awowa or any of the other people hacked in the past couple months don't deserve this. People are quick to blame the victims, but recent threads indicate that people are losing items or accounts despite avoiding goldsellers or 3rd party programs. It's absolutely unacceptable that unscrupulous people can hide behind their computer screens taking advantage of people's work for personal gain or amusement. It's outrageous and something desperately needs to be done to correct the situation.