Losing Survivor in Punchout Due To Application/System Crash

MagicWarrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

This has gotten frustrating... I've been trying to get Legendary Survivor on a character for ages and each time has failed. I create a new character, get it to Kilroy's Punchout where I plan to farm experience. The results:

1st time: Got to approx. 1,200,000 exp and my power supply blew (had to buy a new one)

2nd time: Got to 590,000 exp and my computer crashed (didn't restart and log back in time to save my character)

3rd time: Got to 500,000 exp and my computer shut off out of no where (monitor power was still okay so power was good)

Only playing GW does this terrible luck happen (and of course, only while farming exp in punchout). Each time... I logged back in and of course... /deaths = 1

Was just wondering... if anyone else has experienced this... or maybe I'm just incredibly unlucky. Perhaps Legendary Survivor was never meant to be for me (at least via punchout).

adoreadork

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

This happened to me last weekend when I went home. ITs not jsut you. I do however already have a LS so I didnt feel that bad about it.

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

You should get quality stuff in your com

MagicWarrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Owns Alot EP
Solution: Recognize that Survivor is a pointless title that (1). Signifies you did nothing but do punchout or (2). Did nothing but HFF.
I actually don't disagree with this, but for me it does sort of serve a purpose:

Since I only own Prophecies and EOTN (and since I work full time and have a part time job on top of that) it helps me make progress in the Kind of a Big Deal title track since my game time/funds are low for other titles.

Of course... titles in general seems kind of pointless... but it at least gives me something to do.

baltazar knight

baltazar knight

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Belgium

The Myth of Phoenix [Myth]

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bah heh that's a rlly cowardly way of grinding LS do it my way skill capping!ALOT more honour not that anyone would know it though...

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by baltazar knight
bah heh that's a rlly cowardly way of grinding LS do it my way skill capping!ALOT more honour not that anyone would know it though...
Same. I'm going for at least Indomitable on my Elonian Monk through normal play. I have exp scrolls, but I rarely use them. Quests, skill capping and missions FTW.

Too bad people will go 'Oh *wow* you can punch dwarves...'. Surprsingly I can't actually do that dungeon, even on a non-survivor character.

To the OP: You're cursed. Try a different method.

izzywish

izzywish

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Manchester, UK

Carpe Nocte [StN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicWarrior
Was just wondering... if anyone else has experienced this... or maybe I'm just incredibly unlucky. Perhaps Legendary Survivor was never meant to be for me (at least via punchout).
You've not been eating babies have you? Because it sounds to me like you have some very bad karma. In fact the only way you are going to get LS is by making a note of all the bad things you have ever done and then remedy it.

Good Hunting for your next try though.

ArkNayarr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

[SLAM]

Mo/

It doesn't matter how you earned the title. Doesn't anyone get that?

There will always be some angry little person who thinks titles are stupid who will piss all over your accomplishment. I don't care if you HFF'd or did Punch Out for your Title, you still earned it. However, because these routes are "easy" it likewise becomes easy for many people to say "well this title is meaningless and everyone who has it blah blah blah". And it's unfortunate.

Instead of dumping on people all the time maybe you should try and be more positive. You might actually feel better about yourself.
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To the OP, Legendary Survivor can be tricky to get even when using one of the easier routes (Not as much HFFF, although it can be dangerous to get that far).

When doing Punch-Out, it seems that most people have trouble by encountering Lag. And when I think back to my 2 Legendary Survivors (Both of whom got it before EotN so I can brag a little more) I can recall several times when I lagged out. Luckily, I wasn't near a bunch of enemies, but in Punch Out you almost always are surrounded.

Here's my suggestion: When you do punch-out for LS, do it during non-peak hours for your ISP and GW as much as you can. But beyond that there's not a whole lot you can do.

Not very good advice, but I hope it helps. Good luck.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Owns Alot EP
Solution: Recognize that Survivor is a pointless title that (1). Signifies you did nothing but do punchout or (2). Did nothing but HFF.

Either way, Survivor means nothing besides a little ego boost. It is the most pointless title in the game, and more often then not "Legendary Survivors" will quit a group if the mere hint of a wipe comes just to preserve their precious title.

However, if you really want it that bad, just HFF.
There are still those who get Legendary Survivor without Doing Punchout or HFF, like myself, course going on a paragon makes it easy to get survivor through missions. Capping skills also works wonders for Survivor.

To OP, I highly suggest another way to get suvivor if you want it that bad. As you don't have Factions or Nightfall, just getting to lvl 8 in Pre, *kill to lvl 5 then do quests is easy* then doing the missions till Beacon, then a run to Droks for max armor, seems the easiest. Then just work on the storyline, it gets progressingly harder but overall, its rather easy, especially with Max armor.

lorazcyk

lorazcyk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

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You could try playing the game normally, instead of HFFF or Punching stuff. That way, if/when you lose the title, you won't think "Aww and I spent ALL these hours doing this meaningless thing....", instead you'll think "Well, atleast I actually played the game".

That's what my BF and I are doing. He's playing his Necro, and I'm playing Paragon (not imbangon because I don't like to play a bot :P)

We've beaten NF and half of Cantha, and did a lil bit of EotN; My bf is rank 2, and I'm ~30k short of rank 2 (I get bored of a single character very fast so I switch chars a lot :P )

In Cantha, we pick up all the secondary quests since they're usually 3000 a piece, and same area. :-)

We do use XP scrolls and cap any elites we feel like. I don't like capping skills I can't use though, so... Meh.


Seriously, it's not that bad. If you're having a bad day, don't play your Survivor. That's all

majikmajikmajik

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

SATown~Tx

Guild Hopper!

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getting a run to droks is a vey costly mistake as the spawn in the....2nd area(ithink) is RIGHt next to the zone

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

We all know that Legendary Survivor is no longer a title of any prestige whatsoever, most people just do it for an easy additional KoaBD title.

I'd suggest, if you really insist on doing it the easy way, to grab a spot in one of those faction farming guilds and do some HFF. It's safer. Ultimately though i'd suggest just getting LS the noble way, so at least if your computer crashes you have players/heroes who'll be able to heal you at least.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by baltazar knight
bah heh that's a rlly cowardly way of grinding LS do it my way skill capping!ALOT more honour not that anyone would know it though...
I (and many others) got Legendary Cartographer before texmod even had an application in GW. Same idea.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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instead of doing the dungeon ...kill the worms outside of boreal---if you dont melee them they just stand there and die. you can get 300+xp for each one---if you use scrolls ??? If you think you are not good enough to go it alone bring a monk and a mm.....(thats what my survivor is doing now---though watch out for the pinesols!)....still 99xp each...and scrolls will double that in most cases.

I have a 2nd survivor who I havent played since she got to level one because of lag----and she had her 2nd birthday recently! (can you say mule?)

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

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sounds like bad luck, lol

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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You probably need to fix your computer before you attempt this again. If you are having trouble doing survivor in boxing, you can always kill the snow wurms outside Boreal Station in hard mode with scrolls. It's slower, but it's totally foolproof.

Bluefeather

Bluefeather

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Philippines

[PNOY]

W/R

LOL u lost 3 times and ur getting frustrated?

I lost more than 30 times already and I am broke already. The main reason for my failure? ISP Problem! I loose around 20k for each character for armor, runs and skills.

Everytime I fail, I always quit. But I am so addicted to it that when I logon again, the first i'd do is to make a new character in NF.

I'm good at boxing. I can survive HM even if i have 100energy already. But I can't win against disconnection. Too bad.

poasiods

poasiods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefeather
LOL u lost 3 times and ur getting frustrated?

I lost more than 30 times already and I am broke already. The main reason for my failure? ISP Problem! I loose around 20k for each character for armor, runs and skills.

Everytime I fail, I always quit. But I am so addicted to it that when I logon again, the first i'd do is to make a new character in NF.

I'm good at boxing. I can survive HM even if i have 100energy already. But I can't win against disconnection. Too bad.
No offense but that sounds like an utterly retarded way to go broke.

I've failed a number of times but I've never even come close to farming for the title. First couple were just stupid (Lag in Norn Tournament several times) but my most recent one was complete bull. I doubt many people would bother to do this quest, but 'One Man's Dream' spawned this Ruby Djinn hero capable of delivering massive spikes.

The hero spawning was triggered by me rubbing a lamp, where I stood in a nice tight formation with all my henches and heroes, not knowing what the hell was about to happen. The hero djinn managed to spike down my 640hp 930k exp Indomitable Survivor in maybe 4 seconds. I see the health drop to 300 and then grayed out 0... Some of those damage mechanics in Nightfall and Eye of the North are complete bull.

Besides me ranting, I was just gonna say that playing through the game is actually a pretty safe way to get Survivors as long as you know what you're doing. Just today, my new survivor-to-be in Crystal Desert got hit by many waves of massive lag but got out of those without a scratch since the henches were there to back her up. That'd probably have finished me off in an instant if it was Dwarven Boxing. I've played through Prophecies and Factions (and Nightfall up to Vabbi) so many times now that I now know exactly what to expect for anything. Only drawback is that if you die... You've just wasted about 60 hours...

Anyways, if you decide to stick to boxing, good luck on your pursuits!

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

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This feels more like a discussion thread then a Q&A thread, so I'm moving it to Riverside.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Ah, the power supply. Probably the single most crucial component in the computer, and usually the cheapest and shoddiest made part of it all.

Do yourself a favor. Toss out at least a hundred and fifty bucks on a PSU that weighs more than a half empty bag of potato chips and doesn't have its labels written mostly in Mandarin. The rest of your components will thank you.

rohara

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

a friend and i both made new characters a few weeks ago with the intent of us getting legendary survivor together. i was almost to r2 when i decided to give kilroy a try (my m8 was offline and we vowed to do all skill capping together). i lagged out during the brawl with the big mob toward the end and closed my game out. no go...1 death. my buddy was 20k xp from r3 when he lagged out while out for a skill cap, and he died.

we were none too pleased, to say the least!

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Welcome to the club.
1,2 mil and the game decided to lag.

It's shitty - but considering how long it took me to get to LS on my first chars (pre-boxing) - it's a risk I am willing to take!

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

OK ppl's.

I have the LS on my War. I cheated the title I know. But why are you doing the boxing thing? Are the drops good? I do not know.

Seems rather risky. If you start from pre and make a new toon and do the charr at the gate quest over and over again you can get lvl 10 in under 8 hours. Just remember to only have the prince kill 3 baddies and then map to ascalon and do again.

Then get run to GWEN and kill snow wurms. Yes snow wurms. In hard mode you can kill 10 of the 13 of them. Do not kill the other 3 as the OAK's there WIll kill you. I know cause it happend to me once.

Use the scroll (300 gold) and get 175% more xp per kill. Talk to the dude at the res shrine - kill him in Normal Mode first - that way you get 20 norn points per kill. Along with those 20 points you get - GOLD drops, LOCKPICKS, GOLD as a drop, Purples, Greens, Whites (Always over 50g at merchant) and goodies during festival times. Oh did I mention there is a chest that spons 98% of the time that you can open with the lockpicks that you find on the ground and get golds from the chests. On and acquire Skill Pints. I have over 250 atm.

So basically you can work on 6 titles. The are:
Survivor (140,000/hour)
Treasure Hunter (generally get 1 lockpick/hour)
Wisdom (Average 3 Gold drops without chests)
Norn (20 points/run @ 20 runs/hour is 400/hour)
Lucky (Almost always 25 points cause the lockpicks break)
Unlucky (250 for every chest that you open and retain the lockpick=almost never)

Avai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

I've had similar trouble with Punchout and Legendary Survivor. Instead of rebooting, my internet just lags for 5 minutes and I click "Stand Up!" but my character does not stand. I ended up killing the level 30 Snow Wurms outsdie Boreal Station for LS3 because they can only attack melee so as long as I degen from a distance I have no risk of losing title.

By the time I got r2 Surviv I had 100k gold. I have since finished LS3 and now my survivor wears full FoW armor he farmed all on his own.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

When going for this title Run it on your lower graphic setting and reduced the window so to lower the strain on your machine. May help with lagging issues (also check you ping constantly) Do not attack unless you are at a good ping level. And run away if you start noticing hicups. Let the poor kilroy die if you have to it make he makes little diff in normal mode.

Also watch for pop up screen reducers (like auto virus scans etc...) They will reduce the screen on you and leave you at risk. Scan before you play

Although this does not help you for your power problem it may help with other screen crashes.

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

W/R

There ya go. A second from AVAI. S/HE got LS with zero % chance of death. If you are meele toon just take a step or two back if dying as they only do >20 damage per strike and only have meele and use no skills.

The trick is to mod you build so that you can kill them fast cause once they go under the ground they can regen.

I can kill all ten in under 3 minutes and I can kill them all with no armor on. Looks funny in the snow.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

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You are just unlucky since it is unlikely that anyone is screwing around with you for no reason. if it was like pvp for example then you should be really suspicious (esp if it happens everytime you face the same group of people!)

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicWarrior
This has gotten frustrating... I've been trying to get Legendary Survivor on a character for ages and each time has failed. I create a new character, get it to Kilroy's Punchout where I plan to farm experience. The results:

1st time: Got to approx. 1,200,000 exp and my power supply blew (had to buy a new one)

2nd time: Got to 590,000 exp and my computer crashed (didn't restart and log back in time to save my character)

3rd time: Got to 500,000 exp and my computer shut off out of no where (monitor power was still okay so power was good)

Only playing GW does this terrible luck happen (and of course, only while farming exp in punchout). Each time... I logged back in and of course... /deaths = 1

Was just wondering... if anyone else has experienced this... or maybe I'm just incredibly unlucky. Perhaps Legendary Survivor was never meant to be for me (at least via punchout).
Try hfffing it

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by imnotyourmother
Seems rather risky. If you start from pre and make a new toon and do the charr at the gate quest over and over again you can get lvl 10 in under 8 hours. Just remember to only have the prince kill 3 baddies and then map to ascalon and do again.
^_^.
You could probably get r3 in under 8 hours... Or at least under 10 certainly. Probably faster to do "Elementalist Trainer" (?) quest anyway; the one with the 3 waves of ice golems. At least for early levels.

Boxing is the way to go. It's still fun and challenging going for 0 knockout runs in HM, and takes 1/10th of the time and gold required "playing the game" or skill capping. (Although I did do that with the paragon which was quite fun).

Ending on exactly 1,337,500 ftw.

ins4ne

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/

Just lost my Survivor due to a game crash while brawling - tried contacting the support but it seems they are only using "copy 'n paste" answers.

Talk about 15 hours of wasted time (~970.000 xp).

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

Do HFFF instead impossible to die

MagicWarrior

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

I finally got the LS title on my 4th attempt (also through boxing). Was more careful this time and boxed mainly during off-peak hours, made sure no other applications were running (except antivirus/anti-spyware/firewall) and kept an eye on my ping rate as well as any signs of lagging. I spent a good chunk of my plat on the Triple XP scrolls though... to minimize the risks by minimizing the runs required.

Good luck to all those still going for the title!

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by leeky baby
Do HFFF instead impossible to die
Alliance chat:

A: "Hey, how do i cope with stuck heroes while HFFFing"
B: "Just suicide and see where he is, then fix it."
A: "Ah, here he is"
B: "Its usually better to give up, just retry and flag properly next time"
...
Some time passes
...
A: "DOH!!!!!!!!"

Ebony Shadowheart

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

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My first survivor (ele) was done completely through skill capping and playing through factions. By the time I made it through hatchery and eternal, I was 6 caps away from LS. So I went to NF, did the docks mission, and capped the last few skills I needed for my title.

My second survivor (mes) followed the same path, although I also completed the norn and charr arcs of eotn. I was 200k away from LS, so I just finished her off with hfff because I wanted to work on my kurzick title anyway.

I have 4 (2 para, war, derv) other characters working on LS atm, all at about 450k. Done through skill capping, questing, and missions. I'm up through hatchery on all of them in factions and am working on grove. I plan on doing some hfff with them, as well as more elite capping.

I've tried the Kilroy Tournament once or twice on my derv, but not only is it boring, but it's risky. Two of my alliance mates tried doing punchout for their titles. One lagged and died, the other glitched - he got his energy back up after his first fall and was standing, but it claimed he didn't do it in time and he lost.

So, my suggestion for getting LS:

-Play the game(s) with care (I used hero's and henchies all the way though).
-If you are uncomfortable with a mission, ask your friends/guildies/allies for help.
-Cap every elite you can once you hit lvl 20. This is great if you want to do those titles anyway.
-Do every quest, especially in factions since they are worth a ton!

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

I Alt + Tabbed in a HM one at the first boss. When I switched back to Guild Wars I was at 00:01 time on the button-masher counter.

As for Survivor title in general; my ping randomly screws up sometimes. Not worth the hassle.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Bring a bonder monk and go wurm farming. I did from S2-S3 as a /rit with vampirism and bloodsong and didn't really even need to attack. However, since you have bad luck, stay away from the 3 near the tree mobs.

GourangaPizza

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/W

To the thread starter, you can grind farm those Jade Brotherhood warriors in Budek Skyway HM. There are 4 mobs to kill in total and they yield 2k experience each run. It is extremely safe if you're willing to sacrifice the experience gain for 1 bonder and 1 WoH monk to save your ass in-case of a client crash.

noblepaladin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

I got legendary survivor vanquishing hard mode. I used an imbagon though, so there was no danger at all. I wasn't really even going for it. The safest way is just to repeat someone easy over and over (HFFF, punchout, etc), but that can become very very boring.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

same here its just bad luck
i know its a pain but your just gunna have to do it again

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicWarrior

Was just wondering... if anyone else has experienced this... or maybe I'm just incredibly unlucky. Perhaps Legendary Survivor was never meant to be for me (at least via punchout).
You're not unlucky, your computer sucks.

All of the above means you're having power issues due to weak power supply or overheating.