Is this just Bad Luck?

ganky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

England, Cambridge

[any] Braverheart World XI

W/

Well I've been playing for 3 years now and every other player I know has achieved far far more than me. I simply cannot make money, or get a lucky break. Whenever I farm in UW everyone else get's the ectoes, or if I farm solo, I don't get any decent drops to make it worthwhile.

Do arenanet randomly choose accounts to hex with bad luck or is it my own deliberate fault?

There has also been a high level of prejudice with me, I get flamed for playing warrior, get flamed for my builds, get flamed for not having a mic, get flamed for not having GWEN, don't get taught anything by other people, eg in HA and TA as I "don't have a high enough rank", get shown no empathy or sympathy - players with insane titles are always charging me more rather that less over the pettiest of things.

Why is this game like this? No other game is.

~ Turoth Blademancer / Ganky

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

solo farm with persistence and stop complaining
ectos dont just drop when you want them too,

, its every man for them selves these days

Monk In The Box

Monk In The Box

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

Deutschland und in mein zimmer

[한국어]

Mo/Me

Sounds like my luck

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

It's ust the way things are. My warrior has never got a good drop either, my necro gets the greens just by playing, my ele has to farm a bit, but still gets what I need.

My warrior on the otherhand can't even get the monster drops necessary to play.

NYC Elite

NYC Elite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

A/

Same here. Haven't had anything good drop... ever. Farming isn't cutting it for me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by masta_yoda
solo farm with persistence and stop complaining
ectos dont just drop when you want them too,

, its every man for them selves these days
Don't be an ass about it. He's not a newbie QQing because he's lazy and it's not raining ectos. He's been playing 3 years and wants to know why people are asses and why he seems to get much lower drops than newer people that go around shouting "lolz i gots teh q7 kristalinz!!!11!one!11!!" or whatever rare drop is being farmed at the time.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

In my experience bad players get all the best drops.

Thats why i play with alliance members only, then we can all get bad drops together.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

You probably don't get the piles of gold people get because you don't actually try to farm as extensively and tirelessly.

Go out and do 20 successful UW solo runs. If you get nothing, go do fifty more.

If you come back and are still utterly poor after fifty runs, I'll just laugh, because you should have done five hundred.

Ghostcell

Ghostcell

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

=VX9=

N/Mo

well if everyone is flaming your builds, then it must be saying something - use new builds.
use h/h
buy a mic, a cheap one is only $10.
buy GWEN, lots of easy ways to make gold in it.

you won't get sympathy at all - espec. in high end PvP so just forget about HA unless you want to spend endless hours getting a hero rank high enough to get you into a PUG most times.

if your not getting drops farming, then farm somewhere else.

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

N/

I'm in the same boat. I agree with Isamu. Whenever I do FoW on my monk, it's always the Ursans(lol) that the shards and q9 shadow blades. I guess it just happens.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
You probably don't get the piles of gold people get because you don't actually try to farm as extensively and tirelessly.

Go out and do 20 successful UW solo runs. If you get nothing, go do fifty more.

If you come back and are still utterly poor after fifty runs, I'll just laugh, because you should have done five hundred.
I'll laugh at you for not doing five thousand runs.


Yeah, my advice..be persistent when it comes to farming, you'll get something decent eventually

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by natural_Causes
I'm in the same boat. I agree with Isamu. Whenever I do FoW on my monk, it's always the Ursans(lol) that the shards and q9 shadow blades. I guess it just happens.
Go without Ursans then, it seems when ever I clear FoW all the monks gets the shards

Tosha

Tosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Order of the Kitten [PURR]

Find a guild with nice players and a good alliance, do everything together, and ignore the rest of the players

Tis what I do

Pandora1

Pandora1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

On the half side of insanity.

The Prophets of Titanomachy

D/Mo

Indeed.

A nice and large alliance with sum up all that bad luck in no time.

Ask players for advice and just have fun.

I get lots of neat things from friends that are worth much money, perhaps get friends and do some farming?

Pesi

Pesi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Droknars Forge

No Goats No Glory

Me/

it doesnt really matter of how long u've played, more- how much u've played.

Destiny2097

Destiny2097

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
solo farm with persistence and stop complaining
ectos dont just drop when you want them too,
qft. im one of many who has never been lucky enough to have a super rare drop, but i have made enough through a lot of farming to get whatever i want. if u say u've been playing 3 years and don't know how to make money, then maybe ur playing the wrong game. even now when its harder to make money than before, there are still ways to make lots of money provided that u are prepared to make the effort.

speaking of rank, everyone started off with none. but once again if u are committed enough its not that difficult to get. for glad rank its easy to get it through doing lots of RA, and for HA u can make/join unranked sway teams. and of course u could always join a guild to do either.

Spangly_boy

Spangly_boy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Plymouth Uk

Imperium Legionis

E/Me

Persistence is key my friend.

As many others say, if you want something then keep doing until you get. Tis only way.

Alia Stormkiller

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

N/R

Just bad luck. Keep trying and one day you will get the drops.

sibelang

sibelang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Nottofar Island

Sekai o Oni Moriageru Tame no Suzumiya Haruhi no Dan [SOS-dan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tosha
Find a guild with nice players and a good alliance, do everything together, and ignore the rest of the players

Tis what I do
tis1 but u will never know on the 1st day... so if u ever join a guild... just dont leave in next day or login.... cuz i hate someone who joined our guild, leave nextday bcoz he think hes gozu or smarter or better or guild doesnt fit me or etc....
zomg that wastin 100g!
i think, u know how much 100g worth since u got many bad luck ^^
stay at least several weeks or forever.. to sync each other so u can play together with "FUN!!!"

and yeah doin somethin 2gether is more fun than solo everything...

Panais

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

if u want tiles and gold, try the SS/LB run in NF. just go out and do UW solo farms on your warrior over and over again. I made well over 1000k that way when ectos were worth 7-9k. You will get bad runs eg my worst was 7 runs no gold or ecto. but then u get runs that make up for it, like my best was 6 ectos in 1 smite run

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Welcome to Grind Wars. Like the others said, if you want drops, you have to devote absurd lots of your time to farming for them. I think the 45 ectos I have right now took me about 4 weeks to build up before I realized I was wasting my time on an idiotic mechanic built for people with no lives and gave up.

Riding my bike for an hour each evening or walking the dog was much more rewarding than sitting in front of the glowing moron machine for four hours every night anyway.

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

all i can say is, join a guild and stick with it, odds are you'll become good friends with a few people in that guild and you can d stuff togerther. EG, i used to be a bit like you, with no gold dropping for me couldnt make any of my own, i joined the guild im in now, and have a few close friends that would quite happily lend me anything i wanted (i asked one for 18ok to buy shards for fow arour and he just gave it to me) it really isnt hard to become friends with people, and when you do the whole GW experence becomes nicer

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

Many people complain about not getting lucky. But very much often, they get good drops but they themselves didn't know it. As for nice people, its better not to expect too much over an online game.

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

I'd probably get flamed for using the builds that I do, but I don't and I wouldn't care if I did. Why? Because I don't hang out with punk ass chumps that mindlessly grind and use cookie cutter builds. Some people just aren't cut out to do 50 mind-numbing runs to farm.

I say enjoy the game for what you have. Get in a good guild and have fun. Sell Zaishen Keys, those aren't difficult to obtain. I made 20k in a day by having fun in AB.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

I always have it.

I made my second ever 100k in storage yesterday!

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
I always have it.

I made my second ever 100k in storage yesterday!
Care to share

Mine's lesser than 1k.

free_fall

free_fall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

While you say you've played for 3 years, you didn't say how much you play. If you only play an hour a day, you're not going to do as well as those of us who play 4-6 hours a day on work/school days and 8, 10, 12, 14 hours on our days off.

I've been playing almost 3 years myself and I've gotten a few really nice items in that time (my req 8, +5E Zealous Amber Longbow and req 8, 15%/ench, 20/20 Sundering Gothic sword being the most noteworthy), but I tend to find that my luck goes in cycles - long dry spells followed by a few weeks of good luck, rinse and repeat.

Last couple of weeks I've been getting Radiant and Survivor insignias right and left but, of course, they never drop when I'm trying to equip a new group of heroes on a new char. And I could make a lot more gold than I do, if my playable chars had more than 9 slots free to pick up more stuff that drops - those 40-50g whites add up fast if you can pick up enough of them. And I know I could make more money, too, if I cared to solo farm but, no, I always take a full party of H&H because I find it more fun that way.

The thing I think that helps me is that I don't really play with the expectation or intention of making money, I simply play to have fun and relax; the money just kind of rolls in by itself.

If there's a specific green I want, as the others have suggested, I simply go out and kill the boss over and over and over again until it drops. I might be lucky and get it on the 3rd try, but it might take 20, 50 or 100 tries.

Once, I decided I wanted an Incitol's focus. 2nd day trying, I got a Vengence Seeker, rit wand with a really cool skin, decided I wanted another one, one for each of my rits. Spent 4 more days getting the 2nd one, during wihich time I ended up with 3 Ungues on the Oni and 3 Incitol's (last 2 dropped within 1 1/2 hours).

So, it just takes persistence.

I sympathize with you on the the issue of all the jerks you run across in the game, but that's just a fact of line in the on-line world. Heck, I've posted builds on the forums here and had people immediately rush to tell me how "that build sucks". Well, it works for what I'm using it for, so what do I care what they think about it? Don't let people like that get to you.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Its not how you make money, it is how you spend it.
If you squander every penny on the next new thing when it first comes out, then of course you will have no money.
You have to be willing to save and invest money in order to have it.

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Its not how you make money, it is how you spend it.
If you squander every penny on the next new thing when it first comes out, then of course you will have no money.
You have to be willing to save and invest money in order to have it.
Not really, some people I have played with though 30k was a lot of gold. They couldn't imagine that any one person could have that much gold. I think it is comical. That is like six ecto. hahahahaha

I had a friend grind for two weeks to get his primeval armor. WTF????

I told him I would buy his next set for him and save him hours of his life. Some people just don't know how to get teh goldz...

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Elitism.. Causes everything Fail.

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

Needs persistence imo.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

yes its bad luck....my bad luck is also ectos and shards which is why I never go to the uw/ fow as I never get them when I am there....greens dont usually drop from the bosses I want them too while I have green daggers up the wazzzooo (and no assassin character ---anton and zenmai appreciate them but I only have so many zens and antons!)...

now dye, if you need that I got tons of it (not black only get that say once every other month or so)....

so it all works out in some strange way.....

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

You don't need gold to play the game.

Angelic Upstart

Angelic Upstart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

South Coast UK

[SBS] [RETIRED]

W/E

Its bad luck, you'll live.

I know where your coming from though , i could fall into a barrell of tits and come up sucking my thumb

ThunderStruck

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

Yeah, I've never really had any luck... EVER in GW except once:

Rushing through Factions shortly after it came out, I got ferried to Urgoz's Warren and was lucky enough to get a req 8 15^50 Zodiac Sword, only to accidentally salvage it before I sold it. I STILL haven't gotten over it.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Remember, its time>skill now.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Honestly, my advice is to learn to HFFF. I've got the exact same curse as you on one of my accounts, and HFFF has solved a lot of my money issues. At 4.75k/hour/account you take, UW couldn't consistently keep up with HFFF. Luckily, my mp3s solve the associated boredom problem.

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

uw can overkill hfff in 5 mins

Dervish Kid

Dervish Kid

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Florida

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tosha
Find a guild with nice players and a good alliance, do everything together, and ignore the rest of the players

Tis what I do
I agree..^^
Im in a HM alliance..we Hm everything possible. Get in a guild with a good alliance and kill everything. Go after titles especially.

HuntMaster Avatar

HuntMaster Avatar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Around

Pillar's of Earth [ROCK]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ganky
Well I've been playing for 3 years now and every other player I know has achieved far far more than me. I simply cannot make money, or get a lucky break. Whenever I farm in UW everyone else get's the ectoes, or if I farm solo, I don't get any decent drops to make it worthwhile.
The fact that you can farm UW shows you do not have horrible luck, You can farm one of the nicest spots in the game. Making money in the game is all about repeating something over and over again thousands of times. So just be patient and you will become rich.

I have bad luck because I can't do UW solo and the only drops I ever get are non max weapons and trophies.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ganky
Do arenanet randomly choose accounts to hex with bad luck or is it my own deliberate fault?
They roll 2d10, chosing the highest as the 10 die, and if they roll 49% or lower you are screwed. They roll a 1d20 on each account and on a 15 or lower that account is screwed, They also Peep in your window at night to see when you are the happiest and use carrier pigeons to send messages back to anet hq and order in game nerfs for your area alone. its called the F-U-Fan-Factor.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ganky
There has also been a high level of prejudice with me, I get flamed for playing warrior, get flamed for my builds, get flamed for not having a mic, get flamed for not having GWEN, don't get taught anything by other people, eg in HA and TA as I "don't have a high enough rank", get shown no empathy or sympathy - players with insane titles are always charging me more rather that less over the pettiest of things.
Thats because the gw community, by large, just sucks. They are angry 13 yr olds who get beat down at school and laughed at by girls so they take it out on players in a game. its just the way it is. There is a solution. Don't play areas that require other people (strangers) and only group with heroes and henchies. I never deal with jerks because my H/H are very loyal.

Find me in the game some time and I will help you with what I can. You can play however you want and not worry about any BS. I'm very easy going.
You can teach me to tank UW and we can split the drops 50/50.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ganky
Why is this game like this? No other game is.
Try playing Diablo2 LOD, In that game you don't make money, you make high runes, which if you compared it to gw, you can get 2-10 million gold easier than you can get 1 legit high rune. Raising your mf% (magic find) requires special gear and charms which take forever to get on a drop. You have to kill the same bosses and monsters about a trillion times to gear up your character and then you have to ask yourself " now what do I do, I have everything in the game, I am level 99, Time to play GW.

GW is a very pointless game to farm on though. Collectors offer max dmg weapons and you can buy cheapo max def armor. You don't really need to be rich. Only real need for gold is skills.


My honest opinion. Don't let the jerks get to you, and when you meet nice people, add them to your flist and remember you managed to find one of these rare players who won't trash you when you make a tiny mistake.

PS: Welcome to guildwars, the game that hates itself.

Fi Kumiko

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Missouri

Mo/

Though it has already been stated. If you don't really like to farm, which is the only real way to make lots of money in any MMO, when you are doing missions or quests pick up everything.

Then either salvage it or merch it. Personally I salvage all whites and blues that are under a hundred gold of worth. Just my system. While I might still be poor, I found that most of my gold gets sapped by getting skills,runes etc for all my different chars. So I have taken to just playing and concentrating on a few.