Over powered?

Shout, Chant, and Echo mechanics are overpowered because there are not many options you have to deal with them if they succeed.

Weapon and Item spells can't be touched once successful, therefore they are even more overpowered than thev shout mechanic.

Shadowstepping is overpowered because it doesn't need LoS and as some one stated before a single shadowstep could travel half a map to get around a wall if there is an opening far away.

The scythe is overpowered because of its crit damage + its ability to apply Deep Wound at will. Dervishes can do the most amount of damage on the first action to a single target than another class in the game.

Avatar of Melandru is overpowered because it ignores a facet of the game, which is conditions.

Thats just a general list of what is overpowered. I'm sure there are other things you can find in certain yteam makeups and such, but I was looking at mechanics.

[skill]Shock[/skill] + [skill]Eviscerate[/skill] XD

Stupid question but how is paragon over powered? Like i used to play mine all the time and it was fun but i guess i was doing it wrong or something. Is there a specific godly build or 2 or something? Love the class just think i must have sucked at it lol

You can't strip shouts, you can't interrupt shouts.

Paragons also can limitlessy use There's Nothing to Fear and Save Yourselves!, which provides some ungodly amount of party-wide damage reduction. I know that SY is around 82% reduction, and I assume stacking with TNTF it's gotta be around 90. But I don't know the precise numbers, I just know that you get heavy damage + the equivalent of 8 prot monks in one character.

In PvE no skills are overpowerd. Find it too easy? Go play HM. HM too easy too? Than you're done, you've seen and beated the game, don't try to re-introduce the nerf bat for PvE just for your own sakes challences.

Since my first post got lost in the void that is "page 3", I'll repeat it (what I remember of it).

Sabway shouldn't even be on that list. It is a powerful build, but it's made up of ordinary, every day skills that were put together by someone who has the SKILL and KNOWLEDGE necessary to develope such a set up.

If the same standard ("Sabway is over-powered") is applied across the board, then every single solo farming build out there should be added to the list!

I'll repeat what I said in response to that. None of the skills in Sabway are overpowered, soul reaping is. With the minion bomber, SR will be proccing every 5 seconds, providing essentially limitless energy. What you choose to do with that energy largely doesn't matter as long as you cover "don't die" and "kill stuff".

What's more interesting about Sabway is that it isn't creative at all, no disrespect to Sab. It's simply one iteration of soul reaping exploit build in HA (jagged bonesway) reduced to the 3 main characters. What's overpowered in PvP is almost always overpowered in PvE.

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Honestly, I don't think any skill is unbalanced.

More to the point, I don't care.

It seems that when the game first came out, people were complaining that 8 skills wasn't enough. Then they started nerfing and people started to bitch about how bad the skills were. Then they reverted a crap load of them and now people are bitching that they're over-powered? Should I call the waaaaaambulance? I think I will.

Hard mode should be a challenge. if you want the phat loot then work for it. shouldn't be handed to you.

For me it seems stupid that because of few "harder" areas which can be done without these skills also legimate "Imbagon" and "instawin button" in Guild Wars.

While it's true that my argument is based on that point, that point is not a flaw.

It's also not a normative statement about how I feel the game should be designed. Rather, it's an observation about what a-net has to do to keep their franchise viable.

Joe SixAxis is paying the bills, and the game has to appeal to him with the right balance of challenging-yet-doable. The whole game. If there's areas of the game that he has no hope of beating, especially areas with the best rewards, he's going to become frustrated and resentful. Nevermind that there's (what you may think is) "enough" content for him outside of those areas. He's going to be frustrated and resentful because he wants to play the whole game, and he can't. (Anyone remember the huge bruhaha with Razah? Yeah.) And when Joe SixAxis is feeling frustrated and resentful, it doesn't bode well for GW2's prospects of turning a profit.

As painful as it may be to all the leet guru e-peens around here, the GW world does not revolve around us. (Though for awhile it did revolve around high-end PvP, and that's a mistake that a-net is paying the price for now.) My personal preferences are rather in-line with yours -- I would like a fair number of zones with a difficulty level somewhat beyond what the average player is able to handle. But I recognize that there aren't enough people like you and me to financially support a game that caters to our preferences.

It's PvE who cares.

Thats blasphemy in riverside.

That would actually be funny to see.

1. HM is meant to be HARD therefore, not "accessible to the 'average' player." What is, and should, be accessible is the Normal Mode of the game.

2.[Protective Spirit] and other Protection Payers ring a bell? Don't need PvE-only skills to beat the game.

3. Lol too difficult to use Protective Spirit? Too difficult to use Aegis? You sir, I laugh at.

4. Some mitigation is needed, yes, easier to use? Not for Hard Mode, Cons can help, maybe even have Three monks with you, and hey, Heroes are GREAT at spamming skills and healing on the spot.

@OP. Seriously, need to remove those jokes and other ideas. PermaSF=build, not overpowered skill, SF=nearly overpowered skill. Only thing I can see up there would be Ursan+HB monk, Imbagon/God-Mode War, Perma SF, and those are sets of builds, not skills. So really, nothing is "overpowered" but combinations of good skills are, which is where the problem lies. With where your going, might as well add every PvE skill and every Elite skill, along with the skills that got the split.

Edit:@ first bold: Mr. Joe should learn it is just a game and shouldn't get frustrated over it. @ 2nd bold. LMFAO thats funny, as I see it, there are more E-peens on the game then in the forum, yes could be same e-peens, but I don't see so many in the forum at least.

I do. I want pve to be challenging, k?
Gud.

Mods can we have this thread deleted before anet gets any stupid ideas and I rage quit for another 6 months.

Thanks

Amity? Joke?

The fact the the whole profession's PvE usefulness is riding on 2 PvE skills doesn't alert you to the fact that profession itself is not overpowered?

It actually alerts me that the profession is pretty useless.

Most of the PvE skills are a bit overpowered. The most one is undoubtedly [[ursan blessing]. If this was removed or nerfed, people would think again. Problem is : have you played PUG recently ? Sometimes even with "überPGMr0xx0rZ ursan rulez Im invincibl", you die miserably. So PvE skills can help. But IMHO, ursan + cons is godmode : it needs some kind of nerf even if it'll make people cry. But you all know that Anet won't because they need their customers to still play the game for several months. And if you take ursan away from them, they'll be QQ like bunnies in front of a sawed off double barreled shotgun.

if Paras didn't have the PvE skills, they'd be overpowered. PUGs and their PUG friends are too dumb to see this.

Come on, I'm going to name a good 5 things Paras have that make them pretty much overpowered:
*Do sword damage at long range.
*Can attack 33% faster forever, with no drawback (WOW. CRACKED ARMOR....i'm getting attacked....why? oh right.)
*Have infinite energy at all times.
*An unstrippable 210 damage boost over 3 seconds.
*The above also gives them said infinite energy and forever 33% attack speed.

Maybe its usefulness to you and a few others here. The rest of us find that it's got a wide variety of very useful Shouts, Chants, and Echoes** and have attacks that are more than adequate for filling in the spaces between their noisemaking.

**(Though many shouts/chants/echoes could do with a little tweaking of recharge times and several of the 'on their next attack/spell/skill' ones should probably be changed to 'on their next 1...3 a/s/s'. With any luck, now that most balance is no longer done for PvP reasons, we might see some of that tweaking in the future, at least on skills nerfed for PvP)