Save Mission Game feature is Needed

JackhammerJohn

JackhammerJohn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

California

W/Me

Ok, I really like this game, but I am on the verge of chucking the whole thing. For the past week, I have been trying to get through the Borlis Pass mission, but I would invest about 45 minutes each time, only to get killed and sent back to the Pass and starting all over again!!!

I know this adds to the gametime, but come on! I don't why some of these missions don't have more rez points. There are none that I can see in Borlis Pass. If I have to lit one more fire, I swear I will cry. It will be a mighty cry and it won't be pretty.

I hope the Guild Wars 2 has a game feature save or some more rez points in missions lets you start where you left off or something. As it is now, I have to put the game away for a week just for a breather.

Anyone agree?

Thanks for letting me rant.

WolFenrook

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dim Circle Ring

E/

Missions don't have res shrines, the idea been that if your entire team dies you have failed the mission.

Try taking at least one monk henchie, then you have a portable res shrine, better yet if you are that bad take 2 and they can help stop you from dying in the first place, as that is quite an early mission, and if you think that is too tough, quit now as they get a lot harder.

Wol

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

If you are finding them that difficult you are doing something wrong.

At that stage it is a 6 man party, so you should be bringing henchies to heal you because you cannot make it through without them.

Also, I suggest that you take a self heal and res sig because henchies are stupid, and will die alot anywayz.

Finally, a save mission feature isnt needed because, if you all die you "fail" and therefore theres no reason to live, unlike in explorable area's where you arent doing something that important for the storyline.

If you still cant do it, join a guild and ask for help with you're build, suggestions, and the missions.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

/unsigned

Learn how to play the game. This is an intended design feature of the game. You either complete the entire mission without the entire party dying, or you fail and start from the beginning.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

/unsigned. Most of us have gone through three years of the game without having any need for this feature...somehow I don't think we need it now. Doing something like that would defeat the purpose of build strategy...which is after all a lot of what this game is about.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Definately /notsigned.

If you're having trouble with Borlis Pass, you're probably doing something really wrong, like trying to do it solo at level 5 or something. Fix up what you're doing instead of just doing it over and over again. Fix the problem, don't just try and get lucky.

legacyofkain85

legacyofkain85

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Lady Ainowa

dont want to be rude or anything but if u think Borliss pass is hard and its enough reason to rage quit than u are in for a rough ride when u think about hard mode and factions +nightfall missions.Pm me ingame i could help u out with that mission seeing as u are stuck in it

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

You're going to have a hell of a time with the Crystal Desert and Ring of Fire missions.

Get someone to help you out with the mission if you can't do it on your own. Maybe the person that does help you will give you some pointers on survival and game play.

/notsigned

Panais

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

W8 until u do THK in proph. Anw try changing your build, and bring healers with you.

Nyree

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Brazil

The DeathBlow Team

R/Rt

/notsigned

This would remind me about the save state function of snes emulators:

1º - Save state before boss fight
2º - Start the fight
3º - RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO things up
4º - Load State
5º - Rinse and repeat till you don't mess anything up and kill the boss

That would make things too easy...

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

Is there any other MMO with a feature like this? Not a save char feature, but a save during mission feature I mean.

Either way, /notsigned. Why radically change how an MMO works? There's no need to.

Lyndka

Lyndka

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2008

UK

Angels of KaoS [KaoS]

R/

I can only echo what's been posted above - Borlis Pass is one of the missions in Prophecies that teach/demonstrate that Guild Wars is also about teamwork (you can solo some of the game - some you can H/H - but for some you need another human along) and also why you dont pick the first Guild you find for their cape - they should be there helping you (if not - time to look for another?)

You also don't say your level - you shouldn't be tangling with stuff around Yaks at less than L10 or 11, not unless you have a big hefty team mate with you!

Some think it's cool to rush through from Pre at L3 then get a run to places - but it really works against you in spoiling enjoyment of the game

Having said that (and being UK based) if you want a hand then Whisper me in-game and we'll try to help you through.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

I'll add my character to the help list. PM me if i'm on. IGN Fae Orchid.

Sweet Mystery

Sweet Mystery

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Shadow Hunters Of Light [SHOL]

R/

a "save game" feature? lol.... oh for this in Gates of Madness... save before Shiro and the Lich and then reload when pwnd all the time...

LOL...

/unsigned

Play the game and learn from mistakes, that what it's all about... take monks along, better still make sure you keep an eye on your health too and back out of fights if needed.... there is no shame in running away... just that is the smart thing at times...

Cheevy

Cheevy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Tyria

Ocravia Deathblade /// Light Music Club [K-On]

E/

imo its stupid idea and definately /notsigned

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

I would be best if you tell us where and how do you die, what henchies you use, what skills you use and what is your general tactics. We can give you pointers to make it much easier.

If you want easy and fast ride just spam "can someone borrow me sabway heroes for borlis pass in NM?" in ascalon city or so. Person will join you with three L 20 companions and then quit once mission starts - leaving you with three very powerful characters for duration of mission which should be more than enough to beat it easily and fast.

You can also skip this mission by heading north-west from yaks bend and eventually reach ice tooth cave and from there another outpost and rejoin storyline, with res shrines and whatnot to make trip eventually possible even if you fail a bit.

You have three choices, which one is it gonna be?

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

sorry /notsigned too

that really isnt a hard mission.

do you have a guild or friend to help or are you doing it with henchies?

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

Sorry, but MMO's don't work that way. There is no "save game" and there never will be. You'll understand that better once you have more experience with the game.


Anyways, as others have said, tell us what level you are, what skills you have and which henchies you bring. We can make some suggestions to help you.

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyree
/notsigned

This would remind me about the save state function of snes emulators:

1º - Save state before boss fight
2º - Start the fight
3º - RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO things up
4º - Load State
5º - Rinse and repeat till you don't mess anything up and kill the boss

That would make things too easy...
That's exactly why i hate myself with emulators. I just can't stop doing that.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

/not signed for reasons already mentioned.

And I'll add my two cents on why it shouldn't happen so I don't get called an idiot or lazy

First, I have yet to find a single mission hard, even in Hard Mode *course, I have stayed away from some of the more annoying missions with H/H and find good players to do those with*. If you cannot do Brolis Pass, then you need to rethink your build and the henchmen you bring. Probably go back, do some quests, and level up, that will help.

Second, It will make the game too easy, EN has rez shrines in their missions, and I hate it personally. Removes the challenge too much. The point of a mission is to Succeed or Fail, not try try again.

Third, if people wanted this not because it is very difficult, but because they keep on disconnecting, well there is a time limit that allows you to get back in. That alone should be enough.

Forth,
No Rez shrine in mission="more real life" and Difficult
Difficult=A Challenge
Challenge=Fun
Fun=Good
therefore,
No Rez Shrine in mission=Good

how can you mess with that logic?

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

/notsigned. lrn 2 play.

I suggest you go explain why you're losing to the people at the Tyrian Explorer's League and get them to help you out.

FlamingMetroid

FlamingMetroid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

standing on your last control point, while the rest of your team is to busy killing mine

The Luminaries [Lumi]

A/

/notsigned
fail less

doudou_steve

doudou_steve

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guildless QQ

W/

/signed

Well what? If i wanna do a part of a mission before going to school, i dont want to start all over!

but...

This kinda seems pointless since you can minimize the window, while the others party members complete the mission.

so..

/notsigned

the savage nornbear

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Raging Cadavers [rage]

R/

no its not...

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

Everyone else has managed to beat all of the campaigns, why can't you?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/notsigned
How the heck are you supposed to save a game in an online game? All your human party members are just supposed to magically reappear. No online game, ever, has had a save feature like that because it would be impossible to deal with all the different people.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

this thread does raised a "potential problem" on maps that are already "un-fog"/"open"/"been to before" by your character. i have on many occasion, gets wipe out just 5mm short of the next res point but the game will teleport me to the last res shrine that my character have been to and not the one 5 mm away, which is kind of irritating, since my character has already been to that place and its clearly shown on the map, why does the game have to res me on another shrine 5 inches away and not the one 5 mm away?

Note: only for map that you've already have "been to" etc.

as much as i like to help you sign for a "save game" its just impossible. read the above post by HawkofStorms

but I'll /sign for more res shrine or res at the nearest shrine if you already have it on your map even thou on this run you have not reach it yet.

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

sorry but no signed. I dont play GW much anymore but will be glad to help out if I am on.

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

The only thing that takes longer than a hour is elite areas or hard mode without Ursan.

scythefromunder

scythefromunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

CA

Tears Of The Ascended [ToA]

/notsigned

How about we close this before OP gets anymore embarrased?

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by scythefromunder
/notsigned

How about we close this before OP gets anymore embarrased?
agreed, although it will just prevent him knowing others knowing of his failure. +1 for close.

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

/signed.

eh, what the hell. it's never gonna happen anyway. no one else is going to agree with this dumb...er, brilliant idea, so i will.

ilipol

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/

/not signed

if all those people have done all those missions before you, you must be doing something wrong.

xmancho1

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Bulgaria

Laolin Team [ETA]

W/

/not signed
it was a fairly easy mission for me , done it from the first try so u can do it too
ask people for help , and its a MMO mate u have to play with humans in most situations

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

R/

/notsigned
welcome to GW 101.

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

save game is for single player :P

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

I'm sorry to have to say this to you, but I'm curious how anyone could find it difficult to complete any mission in Prophecies prior to Gates of Kryta. Should I even bother asking what level you're at, if you've been run or even if you know what character class you're playing...

Remember this phrase: Practice makes perfect. If you know the mission by heart, but still do miserably... you need to figure out what you're doing wrong and why you feel it is "impossible" to complete. Once you figure that out, then give it a try again.

However, the OP did nothing for me but just think of one word... pathetic. Just wait till you do the mission The Wilds... that's a nightmare for the unprepared.

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Sorry but not only would it overload the servers with the "saving", but also the thing that seperates a mission from a quest it that it has to be done in one day. Sorry i know some are hard and tedious, but

/not signed

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

45 minutes for Borlis Pass? You're kidding right?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thizzle
The only thing that takes longer than a hour is elite areas or hard mode without Ursan.
Even then, those vanquishes which take over an hour are very scarce. Although you should replace "Ursan" with "PvE-only...stuff".

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

The only way I can see this would be a hard mission for the OP is if he were attempting it solo. A great many MMOs are basically all about "solo" play - maybe his is more familiar with games like L2 and WoW...