Alright, this thread was posted over 3 months ago. And now for the conclusion:
Did SF destroy the economy??
SF Update will destroy GW economy
Pandora's box
Lest121
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Originally Posted by Pandora's box
Alright, this thread was posted over 3 months ago. And now for the conclusion:
Did SF destroy the economy?? |
FrAnt1c??
Double the duration of Spell breaker gogogo!
Hermos
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Originally Posted by Shawn The Divine
...so?
Why is that bad? |
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I dont see the purpose on nerfing SF, i say change glyph of swiftness so it only work on elementalist skills period...this will kill the A/E farming ^^.
Perma sins r still very usefull in speed clears where they dont need to glyph SF or echo it.
Thats my thoughts on this subject.
Perma sins r still very usefull in speed clears where they dont need to glyph SF or echo it.
Thats my thoughts on this subject.
Sleeper Service
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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
In the US it's month/day/year not day/month/year, it hasn't been two weeks since this thread was created.
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in other news, posting agreement or support in "a reply to those that desire...", "...open letter 2", "E.R. mad...","SF. eco killer...", "SF is awesome" type threads are generally mutually exclusive.
please please please double check your previous argumentations (make a note if you must) before posting in these threads, too many people have been disregarding this and GWG is rapidly approaching critical failpost levels.
There is concern that anymore and we will have a "Runaway Cleetus Meltdown Syndrome" resulting in mass idiocy and self harm.
Sun Fired Blank
My confidence in the ecto is very high, but I expect a fairly serious value dent, probably not more than -600g per ecto. In ToA, several people were doing 23 ectos per 100,000g, so we're at -350g per ecto, but I don't expect any more serious damage. Prices are likely to stabilize at roughly 4,000g per ecto.
My confidence is enough that I'm giving away runes of major shadow arts.
I have not once teased the idea of converting my ectos to lockpicks, black / white dyes and z-keys. If you're very concerned about your ectos, you should promptly do this.
I do not believe that ectos are likely to devalue any more than roughly 4,000g, anymore than I believe that armbraces are likely to spike sharply in value because of the Hall of Monuments update, or that passage scrolls are likely to spike sharply in value when we lose favor.
My confidence is enough that I'm giving away runes of major shadow arts.
I have not once teased the idea of converting my ectos to lockpicks, black / white dyes and z-keys. If you're very concerned about your ectos, you should promptly do this.
I do not believe that ectos are likely to devalue any more than roughly 4,000g, anymore than I believe that armbraces are likely to spike sharply in value because of the Hall of Monuments update, or that passage scrolls are likely to spike sharply in value when we lose favor.
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by czfeng
do u even play the game? if not stfu, go toa n take a look, people sellin as low as 4k each, im talkin about the actually price not at the trader. use ur brain next time u post
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trader determines price essentially, mainly on how many he has in stock.
So...
you're an idiot.
chris1234565
if you think the thing that has happened to ectos happend to ele swords as raptors came they were over farmed and the sword became common when they bring gw2 out hopefully they will make a untimate armour that materials cannot be vastly farmed like ectos
romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by chris1234565
if you think the thing that has happened to ectos happend to ele swords as raptors came they were over farmed and the sword became common when they bring gw2 out hopefully they will make a untimate armour that materials cannot be vastly farmed like ectos
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MStarfire
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
Ele swords are not used as currency.
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Dark Paladin X
oh quit complaining people. Shadow Form was buffed because there is a pvp version that is weaker. All the nerfs are mostly related to PvP. And Shadow Form does NOT need a nerf. In fact, the buff barely have an impact on the ecto/shard market other than easier to farm, the drop rates are still the same (i get around 8-10 ectos a day, don't know how u guys got 50 ectos :P). If you nerf SF, you also nerf elite tome farming (particularly if you want new characters to get an elite skill for better advantage), green farming for equipment for you heroes, and the economy would be a downer. The reason why ectos are cheaper now is because of the laws of supply and demand. As long as demand is high, the prices will be high.
And ANet, DON'T make any moves to nerf Shadow Form (like you nerfed Spirit Bond), or you WILL get angry protests. And besides, Shadow Form isn't always 100% invinicible (heck some foes that uses signets, traps, touches, and non-targeting AoE spells can kill a SF farmer, and the build is well balanced).
Besides, I want to get one of those everlasting automatonics and the everlasting beetle juice tonics (which I believe is around 100-150 ectos).
And ANet, DON'T make any moves to nerf Shadow Form (like you nerfed Spirit Bond), or you WILL get angry protests. And besides, Shadow Form isn't always 100% invinicible (heck some foes that uses signets, traps, touches, and non-targeting AoE spells can kill a SF farmer, and the build is well balanced).
Besides, I want to get one of those everlasting automatonics and the everlasting beetle juice tonics (which I believe is around 100-150 ectos).
Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
Shadow Form isn't always 100% invinicible (heck some foes that uses signets, traps, touches, and non-targeting AoE spells can kill a SF farmer, and the build is well balanced).
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:rollingonthefloorlaughing: xDxDxD
tell that to 95%+ of mobs in GW which can in no way kill a perma SF.
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Dark Paladin X
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
BWAHAHAHA well balanced
:rollingonthefloorlaughing: xDxDxD tell that to 95%+ of mobs in GW which can in no way kill a perma SF. |
Daenara
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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X
eventually in later stages on locations, you'll realize that perma-shadow isn't always mean 100% invincibility
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Dark Paladin X
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Originally Posted by Daenara
I think you're missing the point. People could care less if you're running around with your heroes as a perma shadow form in PvE. They DO care however if you're farming 15 ecto an hour in the UW, where the only way for you to die is if you run over a trap. >< (stupid behemoths)
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Narcissia
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Originally Posted by Daenara
I think you're missing the point. People could care less if you're running around with your heroes as a perma shadow form in PvE. They DO care however if you're farming 15 ecto an hour in the UW, where the only way for you to die is if you run over a trap. >< (stupid behemoths)
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would be funny for ppl who didnt see it in the update. /run over traps BOOM! hehe
Dark Paladin X
speaking of which relating to anguish gemstones, I heard they are relatively hard to farm (particularly if one tries to solo).
Tyla
Nerfing Shadow Form wouldn't stop it being possible to solo farm Underworld.
CronkTheImpaler
considering this thread has gone in roughly 300 directions. ill just add this........ if people think the drop rate is low on the plains then i say HA good sir lmao. seriously do a plains run count the ecto and then do a feather run on the island (seitung) count the feathered crests. i did this as a simple excercise. roughly the same number of birds Vs total number of pops of mind blades. this experiment yielded this info. 14 crests Vs 8 ecto. i might be way off but im thinkin ecto should be much more rare then feathered crests on noob island. as i said i could be completely wrong but i found this interesting considering UW is an elite area. just an observation. BTW i love the high ecto drop rate. cause im thinkin ecto will go back up. today they hit 5.5 again.
Cronk
Cronk
Golgotha
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Originally Posted by Narcissia
maybe instead of nerfing shadowform itself, anet should make it so u cant run over traps then. make them activate faster
would be funny for ppl who didnt see it in the update. /run over traps BOOM! hehe |
Narcissia
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Originally Posted by Golgotha
Easy to get around. Just bring a hero or two and have them be cannon fodder for the traps. The Behemoths won't be able to drop new traps quick enough.
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well now they will. jeeze, shhhh
Captain Herbalife
Your all crying about GW economy crashing. As I see it the first major hit was
in insception of inscribable weapons. When they made it possible to recreate
any green or rare gold drop in the game, it destroyed the weapon/item market. But I didnt see you all crying then.
The problem with the guild wars economy has always been and will always
be the elitist farmers. The common player has no hope of competing with them in terms of amassing wealth. I have made alot of money over the last
2 1/2 years that I have played. I have played several different farming builds
and I must say that its a trap. Farmers do nothing but farm, the enjoyment of
the game has been lost for them. When you have to grind or run special builds
to get through certain areas or attain certain items, then the FUN is gone. So I say don't be mad at these farmers because they arent enjoying the game like the common player. Greed has turned them into human-bots with
no original thought or style.
In closing I say, enjoy the game. Dont worry about the economy being broken because it never was "not broken".
in insception of inscribable weapons. When they made it possible to recreate
any green or rare gold drop in the game, it destroyed the weapon/item market. But I didnt see you all crying then.
The problem with the guild wars economy has always been and will always
be the elitist farmers. The common player has no hope of competing with them in terms of amassing wealth. I have made alot of money over the last
2 1/2 years that I have played. I have played several different farming builds
and I must say that its a trap. Farmers do nothing but farm, the enjoyment of
the game has been lost for them. When you have to grind or run special builds
to get through certain areas or attain certain items, then the FUN is gone. So I say don't be mad at these farmers because they arent enjoying the game like the common player. Greed has turned them into human-bots with
no original thought or style.
In closing I say, enjoy the game. Dont worry about the economy being broken because it never was "not broken".
Neo Nugget
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Originally Posted by Captain Herbalife
in insception of inscribable weapons. When they made it possible to recreate
any green or rare gold drop in the game, it destroyed the weapon/item market. But I didnt see you all crying then. |
I think if it's 1 month into perma SF, it won't do any good to nerf it now. It's already too late to *fix(lol)* the economy.
/doomed.