Tormented Weapons will be added to the Hall of Monuments

dubiel005

dubiel005

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

det.

idk

Mo/E

glad i held onto my tweps. hopefully ill be able to make a bit more cash on them now.

kerpall

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

Well, i just bought a couple torment swords for REALLY cheap, and i thin ki will sell them for an obsurd price in the next update ^^.

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

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This is common sense. This is what people wanted. Anet can score a few points, but why do these things take so long before they get implemented?

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??? L??wLi????????? ???

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Dela-where?

Demonic Rage [dr]

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damn. Now i wish I still had mine.

StueyG

StueyG

Kamaspama

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nunya Bizness

pupu / SLAP

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Watch them make it where you can display your tonics as "elite armor" next....


Have to agree with the whole rearrange system is one of the biggest things that needs to be fixed and probably will be the last to be worked on.

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkFlame
Just a matter of time before the qq'ers ask for weapons from other campaigns be added and Anet to cave. I'm surprised there isn't already such a thread(or a dozen).
It's not qq'ing, it's common sense. My character's been around 3 years. He's had some weapons nearly that long. He's depended on them through thick and thin. And then (when GWEN came out) we find that we can only put the fugly destroyer weapons in our hall. That was a let down.

Don't get me wrong -- this is a step in the right direction, although now there are 2 sets of "fuglies" we can put in the hall instead of one. All end-game stuff should be allowed in there, and I think there's a strong case to be made for (at least) all max lvl greens, if not golds as well.

Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grenths Ire
i have always been confused about what the requirement is for a weapon to be placed in the HoM that would only lend itself to Destroyer Weapons... what is Anet's rationale behind this?

If they then add Tormented Weapons, then why only those two? Why not End Game Greens? Or Elite Area Greens and Golds (perfect, of course)?

I have one Destroyer Weapon on display... but I have lots of really "special" weapons equipped on my toons and heroes.
*Picks a piece of paper from a hat*

"Look! Destroyer Weapons"

Damn these Anet kids are crying again......we needa do something about it.

*Picks a piece of paper from a hat*

"Look! Tormented Weapons"

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Ah nice, But this will make ppl that are rich with their ambraces even more richer

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Hmm... to spend 5k gold + 18.5k in materials for a Destroyer item... or to spend whatever the price an Armbrace of Truth is now...

Quite the dilemma I have...

Hollow Gein

Hollow Gein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Menos Espadas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High
Do you need the full set of rare minis (Zhed, Vizu, etc) to get a completed minipet monument? No, NONE of the monuments require you to have any specific entry to count as complete. Why would the weapon monument be any different?
I'm afraid you missed the point completely. With mini-pets, you are correct that it doesn't matter what goes in there; could be gold, white, ultra-rare whatever. The weapon monument is limited to Destroyer and soon to be Tormented weapons. That right there is a specific REQUIREMENT. I can't put my Crystalline, Stormbow, Deldrimor etc. to call it complete, now can I?? The fact that IF they decide to add another row for Tormented weapons means the completed Weapon Monument I have now, could 'possibly' to be imcomplete when they update HoM. However, the FULL details have yet to be announced so I'll keep an open mind.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Really disappointed. They should have just said this was all they were going to do, instead of being cyptic.

When ANet changes something these days, it seems to be more about stirring discontent, than fixing anything.

Sephron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Stewards Of The Ancient Rites [STAR]

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So uh... I guess I'll never see my necros +5e 20% enchant sephis axe or my two zodiac staffs in GW2 then?

What about the people who do not have/want destroyer/torment weapons?

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

First Destroyer weapons and now Torment weapons. I know there are some that like them, and then there are people that just want them because they're rare and expensive, but I personally find them all ugly.

Any chance of allowing us to follow our own tastes and put weapons we actually like in our HoM?

graverobber2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Order of the Flameseekers [NL]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Orange Milk
Eh, My hall is already full of Destroyer weapons, like I was told to do from the start.

Thanks ANet, Glad I got a storage full of useless Items that are uglier than shit, instead of something that looks nice.

What else can you update that I've already done and can't undo?
Just give some good mods to those D-weapons and give them to your heroes

I'd rather add deldrimor weapons than Tormented weapons, btw

-rightuos-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

lol the complaints here are so stupid

"they should have done this from the start"
why? makes more sense to make the new content the requirement then add something later to for a money sink.

"Tormented weapons are ugly like the destroyer weapons"
So don't fill it, that simple.

"they should add deldrimore and and make factions end game weapons craftable and add them too"
NO! ... I'll say it again Hell NO! The deldrimore weapons are cheap to make and would take from the importance of the section all together.

Look Y'all aren't looking at the bigger picture, ectos price is falling fast, if they wanted to fix it they would have nerfed shadow form a bit.

So by putting the Tormented weapons into the HoM they create a new form of ecto... the gemstone. which in turn sells copies of NF to those in need of the area to gain them.

People who get to the area will find it impossible to form a group without Ursan and then realize they need to purchase eotn to get the goods.

Obsidian armor is tired and old and lost its luster. what better way to reinvent the economy?

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

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If in order to max the hall we have to have all 11 torm weps +11 destroyer weps, i'm going to be totally gutted. Hopefully you just need 11 of any kind in total, becaus i'm not spending 1mil+ on these torm weps

Davros Uitar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Fool Wolves

W/Mo

LOL at those thinking this is going to require we all fill a full row with tormented . Just goes to show how there are people that only look at things from the most extreme scenario they can imagine. The mere thought that all of a sudden we have to all find 11 armbraces of wealth is ludicrous, so why are so many sheep jumping to that assumption? Reading the QQing about all the farming people are going to have to do is rather humerous.

You can postulate all you want about Anet and common sense, but it seems fairly evident that they have added in one additional class of weapons to HELP some people fill their rack. It is not going to be a huge money spinner for those with tormented's. They have to decide whether to customise their purple's by putting them in or by selling them off and putting in the cheaper destroyer's.

I have one curses staff that I will add in and take the hit on lost value when it is customised - the rest of what I put in though will be the cheaper destroyers. This change should only be peeving off a few leets that would have been happy to customise their tormenteds to fill their racks. Most that complain they have sold them would again sell them rather than face the huge value they drop when they get customised.

Personally their seems to be a huge QQ over something that should be welcomed. While I see a few slightly slightly reasonable grievances about the fringes, this seems to be the usual "beat up Anet" topic that happens when anything and everything is changed.

Cue the cat pics please

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Cool.

I will now have grand total of one weapon in that monument. Thats kinda improvement from zero.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

I have a full HoM, So long as I can add Shan's torment weapons to it instead of the destroyer ones already there it'll be cool.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by -rightuos-
"Tormented weapons are ugly like the destroyer weapons"
So don't fill it, that simple.

"they should add deldrimore and and make factions end game weapons craftable and add them too"
NO! ... I'll say it again Hell NO! The deldrimore weapons are cheap to make and would take from the importance of the section all together.
You should practice what you preach, if you don’t like Deldrimor don’t like it bug you and move along.


Quote:
Originally Posted by -rightuos-
Look Y'all aren't looking at the bigger picture, ectos price is falling fast, if they wanted to fix it they would have nerfed shadow form a bit.

So by putting the Tormented weapons into the HoM they create a new form of ecto... the gemstone. which in turn sells copies of NF to those in need of the area to gain them.

People who get to the area will find it impossible to form a group without Ursan and then realize they need to purchase eotn to get the goods.

Obsidian armor is tired and old and lost its luster. what better way to reinvent the economy?
No that's not it, it goes more like Regina Buenaobra in one of her private conversasion with some idiot who whinned about not being able to add tormented weapons in the HoM and not knowing how dumd that would be for a few good reasons. They were never able to remove all the ill gotten goods from the dupping exploit, then you had those 117 who were banned for abusing an exploit for six months and yet again all those ill gotten goods couldn't all be removed and then as you noobly said ursan and that's all that is need to say about it. Plus if you spent any time really thining about it, all those ursan groups don't make tormented weapons any better.

Thank you for making the game suker with idiots that only know how to use one skill.

-rightuos-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnchu
You should practice what you preach, if you don’t like Deldrimor don’t like it bug you and move along.
there is a difference of cost, that was my point somehow you missed it... you also asked me to "don't like it bug me"... need I say more?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnchu
Thank you for making the game suker with idiots that only know how to use one skill.
Yea, I need to say more...at what point did I make it my responsibility of what skills others use? Think before you speak.

Chrono Re delle Ere

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

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Oh nice now I can actually consider starting to farm again DoA....
torm weps are surely quite ugly in a certain way, but still better than the fuglyer destroyer weps!

Still wondering what I will do with a torm staff on my war though.....wands can be useful to load up adrenaline, but wat about foci? :l Oh well....

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Re delle Ere
Oh nice now I can actually consider starting to farm again DoA....
torm weps are surely quite ugly in a certain way, but still better than the fuglyer destroyer weps!

Still wondering what I will do with a torm staff on my war though.....wands can be useful to load up adrenaline, but wat about foci? :l Oh well....
Focus - emergency energy for bulls/shock without loosing your weapon ...

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by -rightuos-
Look Y'all aren't looking at the bigger picture, ectos price is falling fast, if they wanted to fix it they would have nerfed shadow form a bit.

So by putting the Tormented weapons into the HoM they create a new form of ecto... the gemstone. which in turn sells copies of NF to those in need of the area to gain them.

People who get to the area will find it impossible to form a group without Ursan and then realize they need to purchase eotn to get the goods.

Obsidian armor is tired and old and lost its luster. what better way to reinvent the economy?
Through cynical manipulation and the elevation of items that are already amongst the only valuable things left in the game?

I don't think there is a bigger picture here - ANet have tried to improve the monument by doing the absolute least they could. They've responded to the simplest request that was made and will doubtless make a few more people happy, at the cost of raising this issue again and reminding the rest of us what total suckfest the HoM is.

sibelang

sibelang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Nottofar Island

Sekai o Oni Moriageru Tame no Suzumiya Haruhi no Dan [SOS-dan]

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and Gemstones will drop from endchest dungeon and add to matrial tradder too?
nice nice, and torment will be 30k each or even cheaper than destroyer weps lol

QQ

The Bard

The Bard

Metal Machine

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

cool ^^ maybe i'll get some more torments and actually fill out the cursed thing

S_Serpent

S_Serpent

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

When not at Aziure's Wizard Tower you can find my in Belgium

Knigths of the Keyboard Order - KkO

Man what shit is this now,

More and more we are let down by a.nets decisions, they change there words way to often.

Its just to keep us occupied till gw2, but really a.net it hurts your reputation more, if this tormented thing is true I'm now making my mind up not to buy GW2.

To much things are said, we follow them, and then it gets changed once more, we do again, and yep it will be change again again again and again!

and no its not about that I can't afford tormented weapons, its just about how everything gets switched and rethought, ... stick to one version, sjeeez.

If company x ask you too collect 10 bar-codes from product Y = destroyer (not sure how this is said in english but the stripes that id a product on its box) you have to collect 10 off them and don't come oh man I want product z = tormented!


Ok personnally destroyer are ugly, and it was my decision to buy em all, and once added to trash em again since their ugly and RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up because they are customized! now make customized account wise and I could live with it bit better. But still.

If I could graffiti the hom and break it down I would, really I would, its shit like this, stick to one version and keep it like that
I thought the hom as great, but with all this changes again and again just to cater for some whines and elistist is just so broken and unbalanced!

A.net you say this games is for the casual player, well this is just the proof it ain't.

Trust me with all those remaining duped armbraces this is the biggest hoax to be able add them to hom now, we just get RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO-up again by the dupers and a.net!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The biggest failure so far, gets its second life to harm people all around

Lost complete confidence in this game.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

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I have a grand total of one destroyer weapon in my monument. I'm still hoping they will broaden the selection even more so I would have a chance to fill it - maybe by adding end-game greens and end-game craftable weapons.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

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The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

FINALLY the best lookig weapons in the game (in my opinion.) are added to the HoM!

lord of all tyria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

A number of people complain that the price of "prestige" items is falling. Adding tormented weapons to the HoM will almost undoubtably cause a surge in demand, and if that outstrips supply, then prices are going to go up.
Sure, it won't make ectos cost 15k or runes cost 100k again, but that's hardly good for an economy.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avatar The Element
Are u dumb???? Its probably going to be a completly diffrent rack for tormented weapons...so you didnt get those d-weps for notin
That would be extremely grim. I already filled my HoM, and the idea of them adding another 11 weapon racks for me to fill... is not a happy thought.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
ugh now I will NEVER fill that dang thing....so far I have gotten 2 destroyer weapons.....and that was after hours of doing the quests that give out the diamond and onyx with each of my characters----
Err... have you seen the price of Onyx and Diamonds lately? It really isn't hard to get the cash for Destroyer weapons, just by casually playing the game.

And by the way, LOVE MY DESTROYER SPEAR! Those stupid Voltaic spears aren't all that, appearance-wise, and they're so big they drag along the ground on my character.

Nightmares Hammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

Looks like I made the right decision to wait.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

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i wonder if the prices of torment weapons will go up this way
ppl will want to put them in their hall
unded prices will go up and ded prices go down
better get my torment back fast before prices go up again

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I guessed right!
- I just had to mention that.


OK, now we can add tormented weapons. But this also raises questions:

Will I then get a mix of Tormented and Destroyer Weapons in GW2?
Can I replace the Destroyer Staff with a Tormented Staff?
...

But as nobody knows anything about GW2, well... I just wonder what we will get for the full weapon rack in the end.



I do not expect a surge in demand for Tormented Weapons. Those who have one will add it.
All others just do not know what to do. For just filling up the weapon rack to maximize it for GW2, buying destroyer weapon materials is still a lot cheaper.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedNova88
If you didn't like them, you shouldn't have bought them. It's not Anet's fault that you wasted money on items you didn't even want.
Really? Not ANets fault? You mean the people who created the game and then said "To get bonus unlocks in GW2 you must fill the HoM" All I did was do as they said to do, like completing a mission and bonus.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wakefield
So anet forced you to buy those weapons? No one "told" you to do anything, you decided for yourself.

There just aint pleasing some people.....
From Wiki

Quote:
The Hall of Monuments is an explorable area in the Eye of the North expansion and will be incorporated in Guild Wars 2 to help tie the games together and reward dedicated Guild Wars players in Guild Wars 2. Certain achievements will add monuments, and each monument will unlock something, such as an exclusive item or title, for a character on a linked Guild Wars 2 account.

Monument of Valor - Unlocked High-End Weapons
Only Destroyer Weapons from the Eye of the North expansion can be added
They didn't force me too, I was just doing as the game said to do, they also never forced me to complete any campain but I did that since that's pretty much the point.

Atleast my only PvE is a Ranger and Rangers are very versitile and I have builds for most of the weapons, I just think they are ugly and their are MANY other weapons I would have prefered to put in there.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by dilan155
this should make things very intresting and tormented stuffs gonna skyrocket, better getem while you can, the thing is this will also make a lot of ppl mad b/c there are things mutch rare than these and they cant be added(crystalline,voltaic etc) but i suppose atleast its a step in the right direction
thats imo a step into the complete wrong direction, because with that shit anet gives again only something new for the super rich players and poor people as usual look into the pipes >.<

What they should add to the monument are greens, contest items, the zodiac/celestial sets and certain very rare special looking items, like the voltaic spear, so that poor player like rich players BOTH have ways to fill the monument with something...

PS:
Quote:
FINALLY the best lookig weapons in the game (in my opinion.) are added to the HoM!
imo one of the most ugly looking of the less item sets in the whole game!!. Who likes this pink garbage, must suffer imo really on heavy taste irritation

Eli Rela

Eli Rela

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

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I have to agree with Serpent above, ANet is backing on their word way to many times... not good. But I still buy GW2, so whatever. My HoM is finished, I am playing another game (Fiesta) and waiting til GW2...

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koricen
Don't care, tormented weapons are fugly.
QFT, but hey the price of gems and braces will go back up which is good for me.

I was planing on doing another 4-6 hm doa quad runs on saturday night this is just more of a incentive to do some more on sunday and hold onto all the sets till the price rises high enough.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Yay!

Mind you, I prefer to get Destroyer ones, cheaper.

Although, does this actually dedicate instead of customize your weapons?

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

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Time to add them! (Once they implement it). Its about time tbh...
Thanks anet