Tormented Weapons will be added to the Hall of Monuments

Thargor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ok, so they add tormented weapons to the HoM. Then they also increase the drop rate of all the gems by 3X or 4X, everyone can now afford the weapons, the armbrace economy takes a huge nose dive, everyone can have a full weapon monument... Where is the problem?

I am glad they are adding more weapons to the hall even if they are very expensive, it gives you more options.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterT69
A lot of people complain about that, but you also have to consider that tormented and destroyer weps are "craftable," which makes me wonder why deldrimor didn't make the cut. But as for regular old weps, the reason they won't be in HoM is because not all stygian reavers are req. 9 and not all legendary swords are req. 9 as well. This is unlike the craftable weps, which are all req. 9 and not rare, just expensive.
The destroyer weapons and tormented weapons are different to all others in that they are speciasl craftable weapons from an elite area. Other elite areas have no craftable weapons.

The HoM's primary focus is to give rewards in gw2, Not to make a room for you to show off. Those rewards will be decided by what you have added and creating a unique reward for each rare weapon skin would be a nightmare. Giving the same rewards to each weapon means anyone could add any crappy rare they get from a raptor and get the same reward.

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thargor
Ok, so they add tormented weapons to the HoM. Then they also increase the drop rate of all the gems by 3X or 4X, everyone can now afford the weapons, the armbrace economy takes a huge nose dive, everyone can have a full weapon monument... Where is the problem?

I am glad they are adding more weapons to the hall even if they are very expensive, it gives you more options.
this is a nice addition but i think you should get rewared for preorder weapons and goty ed weapons as well. also greens would be a grate thing to add to the hom also the end game weapons should all be craftable and be able to be placed in the hom.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zesbeer
this is a nice addition but i think you should get rewared for preorder weapons and goty ed weapons as well. also greens would be a grate thing to add to the hom also the end game weapons should all be craftable and be able to be placed in the hom.
There is already a trigger in your account to check for /bonus items in the form of the access key. It would be a waste of resources to add those to the HoM. smae with BMP weapons.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zesbeer
this is a nice addition but i think you should get rewared for preorder weapons and goty ed weapons as well. also greens would be a grate thing to add to the hom also the end game weapons should all be craftable and be able to be placed in the hom.
So instead of adding rare weapons, you want it to display the most common weapons in the game?

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

rewarded for bonus weapons. what thats a joke right?
i belive typing /bonus and getting the weapons is a reward in it self

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

R/

This is outragous!!

We were told only destroyer weps in HoM .. i went out, after much labouring and fill up 11 slots of destroyer weps...not becasue i like them, in fact i cant stand them...the only reason why is because we were told it will unlock some content within GW2... to change there stance now is purely rediculous.

GG Anet /sarcasm

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

Well it has been already said they will be added, can't be taken back because it be unfair to the people who just bought a tormented set this past week. I understand i disaprove of this move because of the duping that happened to armbraces, but it to late to fix this, the cat already out of the bag.
I only wish Regena would clearify one thing, the 2 bow skin issue.
I think alot of people would like to know if you will need one of each bow skin, or just 1 bow, similar to how the destoyer bow worked.

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

R/

Im furious over this.

/epic fail

Rick_

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Vanguard of the Forsaken [vF]

N/Me

still wish dwarven armor could go in HoM...

not too fussed about tormented, it'll make armbraces cheaper (still outta my league)

Ama Seraphim

Ama Seraphim

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

War Torn [Torn] - Guild Leader

D/R

hate both sets of those weapons and have none of the destroyer in my HoM nor will i have any of the tormented in there either

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Meh don't know why people are complaining. "Oh noez! anets listening to their customers!!1!" You should be happy they're listening to us.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

it's hard to get an armbrace now actually wich sucks
i'm just getting torments cuz i sold two of them when i got my fow
for me i'll keep them unded
maybe i'll dedicate them in my HoM if they go to you in GW2 later
but until then i'll keep them clean

Rick_

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Vanguard of the Forsaken [vF]

N/Me

good point nightstalker.

you could horde all the stuff (pets, weaps etc) and not dedicate them, then figure out whats worth dedicating for gw2 after the "reward" info is released.

on another note, did anyone stop to think that maybe as ANet dev gw2, they get new ideas and go "oh we could add that as a reward for tormented weapons"
Expect the HoM to change as gw2 gets developed
also expect many perma sf sins to farm doa and reduce prices for us

arsinn

arsinn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

icU

Me/

woot, thats awesome

selling gemsets 21k each

Striken7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

The District Nudists

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed
Meh don't know why people are complaining. "Oh noez! anets listening to their customers!!1!" You should be happy they're listening to us.
Best joke of the day. Thanks.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
The HoM's primary focus is to give rewards in gw2, Not to make a room for you to show off.
Except that it was advertised as the latter...

Quote:
Giving the same rewards to each weapon means anyone could add any crappy rare they get from a raptor and get the same reward.
How is that different from filling Devotion with cheap minipets, which you can already do? Fellowship and Honor can also be filled easily and cheaply...

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Thought some ppl might like to read this...

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Regina_Buenaobra#Questions_Concerning_Ho M_.28sorry_if_I_seem_rude.29

Quote:
...I've worked with the developers to create a Dev Update (for publication next week) about the Hall of Monuments.
Skill balance most likely this week, HoM update next week. Can't wait.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yess! Finally!
If it's a Dev Update it must be something more than just announcing the addition of Tormented weapons, I hope for an explanation on how the whole thing works and what counts and what not. (I don't care what the actual rewards in GW2 are and I bet it's too early to ask for that)

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
The HoM's primary focus is to give rewards in gw2, Not to make a room for you to show off. Those rewards will be decided by what you have added and creating a unique reward for each rare weapon skin would be a nightmare. Giving the same rewards to each weapon means anyone could add any crappy rare they get from a raptor and get the same reward.
This is a glorified loyalty scheme. All GW1 players *should* be receiving the same bonuses, since the reward should be for sticking with ANet and buying GW2.

But, as ever, everything is balanced to satisfy the grind-monkeys, to the detriment of the actual game.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Nice work ANet!

Uber Mass

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

W/

way too late imho

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

People, start buying armbraces...

NuclearDope

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemesis of God
People, start buying armbraces...
I'm not convinced they'll go up, too many people farming DoA now...*shrug*

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NuclearDope
I'm not convinced they'll go up, too many people farming DoA now...*shrug*
armbrace seemed to have gone up coming from 30-35e to 100k+20e
some ppl sell it for that price or near it

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

P/

Time to hit DoA again....

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Better late than never I suppose, but my sympathies to people who labored to get Destroyer weapons in HoM. Personally, I had a feeling this day would come so I didn't bother since I didn't like any of them. Now, I'll put my Tormented stuff in there. Overall, I'm pleased, but I can't understand why Anet didn't just do this in the first place.

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

I still fail to understand the folks who are upset because they "labored" so hard to "fill" their HoM with Destroyer weapons. Are they as pissed when a new mini comes out (meaning a previously "full" collection is no longer complete), or if Deldrimor armor were allowed in?

It's one thing to be frustrated, but to have such dramatic reactions? ..We don't even know what the rewards in GW2 will be yet.

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by raven214
I still fail to understand the folks who are upset...

Well in my case, Im upset because I was told that we were NOT going to be able to add any weapons to our HoM except Destroyer Weapons. If I would have known, I would have spent my money on Tormented Weapons instead of Destroyer Weapons.

My HoM has been filled since January, I bought all the materials when they were alot more expensive than they are now. I would have much rather spent that on Tormented Weapons instead of Destroyer Weapons.

That alone is the only reason I bought the Destroyer Weapons, becasue they were the only weapon allowed in our HoM's.

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lycan X
Well in my case, Im upset because I was told that we were NOT going to be able to add any weapons to our HoM except Destroyer Weapons. If I would have known, I would have spent my money on Tormented Weapons instead of Destroyer Weapons.

My HoM has been filled since January, I bought all the materials when they were alot more expensive than they are now. I would have much rather spent that on Tormented Weapons instead of Destroyer Weapons.

That alone is the only reason I bought the Destroyer Weapons, becasue they were the only weapon allowed in our HoM's.
Ok, that makes sense. I understand being mad about losing so much money in that sense. But on the other hand, it sorta goes to my whole point -- that the HoM should be for your stuff... i.e., the "prestige" stuff you've acquired and fought with, not just for the sake of filling so your descendants get something cool (of what exactly we still do not know).

It's pretty obvious that ANet doesn't have all the details nailed down about how the HoM will transfer to GW2, so personally I'm not suprised if some things are added or altered here and there (like when mini's were originally customized to the owning character). In fact, I'm counting on that when it comes to the weapons, as for the most part I don't care for the look of either Destroyer or Tormented sets. I'm waiting for Nightfall and Prophecies end-games to be added.

kostolomac

kostolomac

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

Serbia

Me/

I'm confused. If the update goes live , I'll need 22 weapons (2 weps for the same skin) or 11 from which i can choose between tormented or destroyer?

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kostolomac
I'm confused. If the update goes live , I'll need 22 weapons (2 weps for the same skin) or 11 from which i can choose between tormented or destroyer?
11 slots with both destroyer and tormented weapons to choose from with filling them (at least common sense would dictate this).

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

/dont care tormented are ugly i wouldnt say that if you could dye the purple a difrent color but no so unless i want to invest time im not going to bother with this, monument. what they neeed to do is add greens to the mix.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister_Smiley
Ok, so if i get this right, they will be added in, which i happy for those people who have 5+ weapons. But why now? Why did the decide to do this now, instead of right after the game came out? Also they will not get there own Rack. Also i have all the destoryer weapons right now on my Rack, does this mean i need to get all 11 Tormented Weapons as well, cause thats not going to be cheap.
you do not NEEDto place anything in the hall of monuments

to the people who say "my assassin doesnt need staff,wand,spear,etc-
H E R O E S can use your custom weps... clearly that was the intent was so you can have a team of heroes with matching weps.

dont feel too bad, i know a guy who bought 3 each destroyer shields and swords modded them different for his warrior and then said WTF when he could only place one of each in his HOM.
does it even explain anywhere in game that only one of each wep type can be added?

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

+ the fact that is downright stupid that you customise a staff / wand worth 100k+ as a bloody warrior lol...

But hey, people are bored, give em something to spend their money on = keeping them entertained?

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

Quote:
Originally Posted by N E D M
you do not NEEDto place anything in the hall of monuments

to the people who say "my assassin doesnt need staff,wand,spear,etc-
H E R O E S can use your custom weps... clearly that was the intent was so you can have a team of heroes with matching weps.

dont feel too bad, i know a guy who bought 3 each destroyer shields and swords modded them different for his warrior and then said WTF when he could only place one of each in his HOM.
does it even explain anywhere in game that only one of each wep type can be added?
for the most part the hom one of the main reasons to get gwen.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

HoM has been FAIL from the very anouncement of it.

They should have only told us that it would save our character names, left all the rest silent. This would have given them much greater freedom to change the HoM to reflect what players wanted in it.

After they understood what we wanted, and what they wanted us to recieve in GW2 as a reward for filling the HoM they could have adjusted the reward to better fit how we wanted to use our HoM.

Now they are trying the reverse, they know what we get in GW2, can't or won't tell us, but are trying to reverse engineer what we can display to recieve that reward.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
ugh now I will NEVER fill that dang thing....so far I have gotten 2 destroyer weapons.....and that was after hours of doing the quests that give out the diamond and onyx with each of my characters---- I have none left and no plat to get more....and I am still waiting to even GET into doa let alone get an armbrace that I can exchange for said tormented weapon....

way to go anet /sacrasm meter at max+1000000000.....
You have TWO yes TWO whole years before GW2 is out so what's the dang hurry to get HOM maxed out today? And HOM has been out for almost a year now so you'll have a total of almost 3 years to get prepared. So, stop posting on forums and get to work.

BuD

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
You have TWO yes TWO whole years before GW2 is out

Last I heard, Beta in Late 2008 with a 2009 release, according to you its release is 2010. Any links confirming 2 years from now?

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

You know, they jsut could have made HoM weapons rack "structured"

11 racks.

you need to earn "11 points" worth of weapons to monument count as completed.

purple r9- item/highreq (even rare skin) gold: 0.25 points.
gold or green item (r9-): 0.5 points
"rare" skin gold, r9; 1 point
destroyer weapon grade weapons (r8 rare skin golds): 2 points
tormented weapon grade weapons (r7 rare skin golds): 3 points.

higher rank of item overwrites lower rank when added to HoM.

that way, you have leeway in filing monument with whatever you want but you have offset crap you put in by putting in some precious weapon.