Mystic Regeneration

Lawliet Kira

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

E/Me

Who agrees this should be a Pve(Pvp) skill? Revert it back for Pve please!

/signed

Hodgie

Hodgie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

On A Chair

Rise Of Corruption

Mo/

/signed

i wanna start 130hp in my derv again.

moose528

moose528

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

East Coast Highlanders

Mo/D

I agree also for it has greatly reduced farming for my derv mostly for the fact that all it takes is one interupt on Mystic regen to end ur battles

/signed

Shiro's Prophet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Crux]

Rt/

Agreed. I think that it should be changed to Mysticism instead of Earth Prayers, so its sort of exclusive to dervs.
/signed

Nessar

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiro's Prophet
Agreed. I think that it should be changed to Mysticism instead of Earth Prayers, so its sort of exclusive to dervs.
/signed
I totally agree with you

/signed!

toastgodsupreme

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

What was it before the nerf?

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by toastgodsupreme
What was it before the nerf?
No limit on # of enchants.

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

I agree

/signed

However, I think the PvP and PvE split was only a TEST for gw2. As seen by the lack of skills included in the split, I dont believe anet intends to truly use it to improve gw1.

EDIT: And to those of you non derv players, before the nerf it was 20 seconds, and had no enchant limit. Of course there is a regeneration limit, so extra regen was just used to counter conditions like burning and bleeding.

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

/signed

and /signed for a move to mysticism.

moose528

moose528

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

East Coast Highlanders

Mo/D

prior to the nerf to mystic regen the recharge time was only 4 seconds not 12 so interupts were not of much concern u could get interupted a given twice and still manage to recast it on yourself for the 130 build but now it limits the bosses and areas in which is farmed

Guna

Guna

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2008

W/

/signed

no more 55 Mo/De....... the constant nerfing if getting PvE players with nothing left to do but to quit....

Just nerf the PVP skills



LEAVE PVE ALONE

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

I don't think it was ever 4 seconds recharge. It had unlimited amount of enchantments that could fuel Mystic Regeneration. So you could farm even enemies that give Bleeding, Poison, Disease and degeneration hexes at once.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guna
/signed

no more 55 Mo/De....... the constant nerfing if getting PvE players with nothing left to do but to quit....

Just nerf the PVP skills



LEAVE PVE ALONE
I lol'd.

I'm /Signing anyway.

hurdlebeast

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

E/Me

/signed for no regen limit

/notsigned for derv exclusive. Share the love, people.

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
I don't think it was ever 4 seconds recharge. It had unlimited amount of enchantments that could fuel Mystic Regeneration. So you could farm even enemies that give Bleeding, Poison, Disease and degeneration hexes at once.
I am pretty sure the recharge was less than 5 seconds a while back.

/signed anyhow for revert and move to myst

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
I don't think it was ever 4 seconds recharge. It had unlimited amount of enchantments that could fuel Mystic Regeneration. So you could farm even enemies that give Bleeding, Poison, Disease and degeneration hexes at once.
No, there was a much lower recharge time on the skill before it was nerfed. I can't remember what it was, but I think it was four seconds.

:edit:

Forgot to /Sign.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

The description was something along the lines of:

For 20 seconds, you gain +1..3 health regeneration for each enchantment on you.
10E, 1/4 cast time, 5 recharge.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

I remember it as a 5 second recharge. I can live with the limit on enchantments, as it was imbalanced to have such a huge regen ability.

I'll /sign a change to the recharge.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiro's Prophet
Agreed. I think that it should be changed to Mysticism instead of Earth Prayers, so its sort of exclusive to dervs.
/signed
Would make sense.
"Mystic" Regen
"Mystism"
seems like the right place to have it to me.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/notsigned
Unlike other skills that have had a PvE/PvP split (Incoming, Watch Yourself), Mystic Regen was not nerfed into utter crap. Even with the nerfs to its current state, MR is still very powerful, and a staple of many of my friend's PvE Dervish builds. It's current nerfed form is no where near as broken and useless as it would need to be to deserve a split.

PS, if all you want this for is for farming... tough. There are like 100 farming builds on these forums, plus the new perma SF build. Use any of them instead.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

/unsigned

Mystic Regen is not underpowered in any way.

/signed for
People to quit asking for shit to be made overpowered.

Shesi Celerere

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/Mo

/signed
I would love to be ale to farm well with my derv again

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyon456
However, I think the PvP and PvE split was only a TEST for gw2. As seen by the lack of skills included in the split, I dont believe anet intends to truly use it to improve gw1.
I think we have a winner here.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

By the way:

/notsigned for moving Mystic Regen to Mysticism. Because I like to use it as self-heal (Elementalist).

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

/notsigned

I've said it before and i'll say it again, anyone who believes the mystic regen nerf was because of pvp has no clue about pvp.

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Revert Mystic Regen.

Death = FoW dervish tanks.

PvP'er go and play with yourselves. We have a split system now, Time for new advancements. The game's about change. Time for a change. Stop ruining it for everyone else and Gtfo.

RedNova88

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

W/

/signed with a condition

I think it needs to be changed, but only to the point that it can be used for farming effectively. Right now a maximum of 3 enchants isn't really enough to farm areas effectively. 4-5 max for PvE seems more reasonable to me.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Revert Mystic Regen.

Death = FoW dervish tanks.

PvP'er go and play with yourselves. We have a split system now, Time for new advancements. The game's about change. Time for a change. Stop ruining it for everyone else and Gtfo.
Funny, the people who /notsigned it are all PvE players.
Troll less.

Golgotha

Golgotha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
Would make sense.
"Mystic" Regen
"Mystism"
seems like the right place to have it to me.
These should be moved too then, correct?

[Mystic Healing][Mystic Sandstorm][Mystic Sweep][Mystic Twister]

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I wouldn't mind a slight buff mostly for Dervs.

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

As easy as PvE already is, mystic regen shouldn't have been nerfed...it just feels wrong ><
/signed

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

How does this make sense at all?

"/signed, I can't abuse it in it's current state" is all I see.

It's finally doing what it's supposed to, and instantly the WHAAAAAAAmbulance is in town.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
How does this make sense at all?

"/signed, I can't abuse it in it's current state" is all I see.

It's finally doing what it's supposed to, and instantly the WHAAAAAAAmbulance is in town.
What, provide regen for enchantments? Yeah. NOW it's doing that job.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
What, provide regen for enchantments? Yeah. NOW it's doing that job.
It was never meant to be used for people to lower their HP to 130 or 55, use Protective Spirit and 12 other enchantments, then use this for max regen.

If Prot Spirit were to get fixed, then this should be returned to its original state.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

Surely you guys could have come up with at least 25+skills you'd like to see reverted... I'm truly disappointed. Especially not that PVE and PVP is separated.

hurdlebeast

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Golgotha
These should be moved too then, correct?

[Mystic Healing][Mystic Sandstorm][Mystic Sweep][Mystic Twister]
mebbe it seems like all the "mystic" prefixes are dependant upon the number of enchants on you.....hmmm

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Move to Mysticism and then revert.

Quote:
PvP'er go and play with yourselves. We have a split system now, Time for new buffs. The game's about change. Time for buffs. Stop making pve challenging.
Fix'd your crap.

hurdlebeast

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

E/Me

ok here's the honest to god skinny with mystic regen. I make a terra tank, using
[skill]Stone Striker[/skill][skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Glyph of Swiftness[/skill][skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Kinetic Armor[/skill][skill]Stone Daggers[/skill] [skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill] or [skill]Earth Attunement[/skill]

with a full set of geomancer's/attuned armor, I am invincible in PvE. perfect tank for a SS necro to avoid aggro. Move it to mysticism, you ruin that for me. why would you do that? even if you leave it as it is now, i'm semi invincible, spamming stone daggers to activate aura of rest. so either rebuff it to make me a god, or leave it alone so i can be a demi-god.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

It wasn't nerfed for PvP, retards.

/notsigned

Nerf it into the ground more for more QQing.

/signed

I Is Special

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
It wasn't nerfed for PvP, retards.

/notsigned

Nerf it into the ground more for more QQing.

/signed
I recall a lot of people bitching b/c it was very hard to interrupt and could very easily be recasted again after 4 seconds(?) if it was interrupted or stripped.

/notsigned.