PvE dried out?

What I would like to know is why invest your time in game that the developers themselves are simply giving up on?It is not like they don't have to abaddon it they can make improvements on it as we know pve/pvp can be separated and they can buff char.s up

Is is differnet with pvp and I can understand with strange build concepts eg R/D with Scythe and N/Rt as well as Rit/N anyway that is the strange world of pvp.

We know they can't implement auction houses just put it on The Gurus auction and there are few other things.

There is another concern I have and that is the amount of achievements going on as it going down and the hours of Favour.It would seem like not to many are out making achievements in order to gain more favour.

They could just give out the text files and let us do some of the work like I do in my RTS games

Why continue to play a game the makers themselves are giving up on it is not like they make improvements on as well as some more add ons.It seems like GW fate is sealed by the Developers themselves.It is shame really when you look at it.There was so much potential (sp) for it and all our invested time just down the drain.

Thankfully AB/RA/FA pvp is still fun, but, yeah the pve game is gone. Sorry, I don't care to play all 10 characters through the same storyline and areas. That's not what I would call fun, but, just more repetitive play. The most fun now is just stomping assassins and rangers and devishers and well all melee classes in PVP. When I'm on now thas where you'll find me killin the melee over n over n over and then dancing on their heads a lil some.

If you don't find it fun then stop doing it. A game it supposed to be fun, if not stop.

Go outside and have some fun for a while, buy another game and play it until you either want to play GW again or come back to GW2.

I don't really see the point in so many people making threads about how board they are. We get several of these every week.

Just do something else -- it is really that simple !!

^^ Yep easy to say, but I like GW most of all and other games don't appeal to me as much.

So my only other solution is to start to read good books again while I'll be waiting for GW2.

Hero's did not kill PvE there are still plenty of people out there willing to pug. There just are not so many people where you happen to be. As the game goes on the older areas are mostly deserted. The players are spread over a much bigger area.

What we need it NEW CONTENT in the areas we already have, like a Sorrows Furnace. They don't have to be as big as SF, but on the level of what we get in GWEN. We need dungeons in all the existing Lands, lots of dungeons, in all those empty temples and doors you can find all over the land. One of the best times I've had in GW in a long time was the treasure hunt for my Black Moa Chick. More of this, Please! Charge us a 30.00 fee for an expanison pack that is not as lame as the mission pack for solo player you added. Anet seems to not understand that we felt the need to solo for massive rewards not because we wanted to solo for minimum rewards or that it was so much fun. If we had more content people would be happier for a while at least until it got stale. We need a frontier someplace to keep going or we get bored. New horizons, places to find, bodies to loot, new and better loot and more of it, then we would be a lot happier and playing more! We need something to do NOW, dreaming about GW2 is not enough.

Nope, Players killed PvE. If it were not for heroes, many players would have quit long ago, Waiting 30+ minutes for a pug to form and then party wiping because of a mistake does not make you want to wait another 30+ minutes to get another pug that will fail.

If players did not suck, and if they were not ragequitters and pushy jerks, heroes would never have been needed.

Players kill PvE. Just like player are killing PvP.

People blame heroes because the heroes do a better job than they can, Which makes them mad. Heroes>Henchies>Players.


Also people play guildwars far to much and grow sick of it very fast. Remember the saying "Moderation in all things". You guys who have everything and played everything are expecting to much. Its only a game, there are many others out there. Stop playing gw for a while and pick up something new. In a few months after you have beaten a few new games, come back and gw will be alittle better. But not much.

mix of both. moderate how much you use heroes, and the experience will be better

Yes there is less to do, yes titles are basically the focus of PVe, however that does not mean the game is boring.

I enjoy vanquishing, even with H&H because I talk with my guild alliance before i do it. If i feel like I need time alone, i can do it alone with my H&H and its all good. Its not dried out, its just changed.

I think the only problem with Pugs is the massive area of the game (3 campaigns + eotn) the population is too spread out to be able to rapidly form groups.

About adding new content/realms of the gods, it wouldnt be too difficult to come out with a story line for them.

No it wouldn't take long to come up with a storyline, but it would take a massive amount of effort and resources - resources which are taken up with GW2 now - to program it.

And there isn't less to do - content from the game hasn't magically evaporated. It's still the same amount.

yeah i have had that same problem when i log on its like "wat do i do...." but luckly for me my pc broke and i hopped onto my 360 to find that CoD4 is just as addicting as GW used too be so ive been playing that for about a month when all of a sudden... ring of death so now my pc wont run GW and i dont have CoD4 still trying to find something else too do


willing to take suggestions lol

Yea, pve is so dull for me now. I'm too lazy to get r3 in koabd, so titles are out. Don't feel like ursaning fow/uw/doa. There's just nothing to do anymore :/
I only log on to chat with friends and get bored..
Luckliy theres gta 4 to keep me occupied c:

I had a pug W/E with new non-infused armor in Hells Precipice HM the other day. He/She also brought along meteor shower. I think that player was just trying to aggravate the rest of the group but at the end of the day, we finished the mission. It was most excellent. The most fun I've had in a while.

You are totally right, my friend.

Yes, I too enjoy wasting time by relying on the fickle moods of people who play an online game.

Taking a beak is the best thing to do, in my opinion.

Ok, so you got r8, but what exactly did you do to get there? Did you IWAY or SWAY it up there?

If you just farmed your fame, you didn't really get the experience. Find a guild that does HA regularly and plays a balanced build. Things like holding halls can be extremely fun.

I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to use a mic efficiently, but if you're worried about not being able to break into the GvG scene because you don't already play top 400 you need to step back and try again. A lot of guilds are out there specifically for people to break into the GvG scene.

my opinion..once bored with Guild Wars..do one more thing..fill out your HoM just for GW2. even for the poor people out there you can just make an assassin and perma SF UW for a few days and then you'll have enough to complete your HoM (mostly). then shelve GW until GW2 comes out.

It's almost sad listening to my guildmates on comms doing PvE these days.

Back in the day it was like...

"Ok, holy cow! We need to sneak past this group when they bunch up, then hug that corner and pull this mob here. We need tanks up front, and please get a crip shot on that boss. It's imperative that we interrupt his main skill, and after he's dead, just break off from attacking anything else and run to this point here, or the roving mob will kill us."

These days it's just...

*sigh* "So ya'll want to kill everything or run it?"

imo pve or pvp or anything is as fun as you make it. my friends all complain that i9'm playing an out dated game with GW but I think its still fun so I play it.

Nah Inscription & PvE only skills & Heroes skilled PvE.

Heck, I have GW Orignal, Nightfall and Eye Of The North, and I have a few missions I havent completed in the orignal. as far as Nightfall, and Eye Of The North, I am not even close to completing it nor Hard Mode.

I guess I like to take my time and enjoy the game which I still do till this day.

Like any game, people sometimes get bored and need a break. Nice thing about GW considering WOW they charge you a monthly fee and its as if you should play it once a day because you are paying a fee.

I get bored with all games to be honest, so I move onto a shooter like Battlefield or COD 4, or on my PS3.

GW I think has still alot of potentional, and still is a most popular game. I love it.

I recently Quit GW,That was after one day I tried to get a grp with my Necro and couldnt for the life of me get one because I didnt have Ursan.

The sad thing about this was it wasnt a elite area or a mission it was a quest.

Yes I could go with hero/Hench but thats not the point.
In light of this im starting to think GW2 I wont bother with,Considering they have turned GW into a Joke so will GW2 start out like this?

My thinking on the PvE aspect of the game is that nothing really has changed in the past few years. It’s just when I get burnt out with GW, I start to focus my attention on something else and usually set another goal for GW in which I come back for. You can always set up different goals that don’t revolve around one feature (example: titles & farming to which I despise), but can be different aspects of the game. Yes, I severely disliked EotN, but I made myself go through it with all my characters after a long break. I am probably one of the few who never likes taking short cuts when it comes to PvE and yet I still have fun in GW from time to time.

Exactly...........when I got bored with GW I took a break came back refresh, plus I don't play GW only, the worst thing you can do is play GW only.

I'm just wondering. How much time have you guys played, those of you that are bored?

I've logged just under 1000 hours, about 250 hours per campaign/expansion and I still have loads of content still to complete, explore ect. I've not, until recently, tried any of the Grinds.

250+ hours per $40 is the best value I've ever come across in a Vid game. Can anyone think of another online game with as much content? One that they've logged as many hours in? Endgame in WoW can be reached in around 250-500 hours, then the dungeon/gear grind begins. And they charge you monthly for dungeon/gear grinds, and the content is slim at that level. AoC uses the same model.

It does seem like GW1 is at cross purposes with character-specific Titles (character development) Vs multiple character/professions. One leads players to play only one character (develop one character), the other direction leads players to explore multiple professions, multiple alts. Maybe more titles should be account based. Most recently, GW1 encourages single character game play, especially if hunting for titles. Maybe this is why players feel burned-out. But then games like WoW and other Asian styled grinders will net you even fewer gameplay options if you choose to develop one character fully. And the Asian grinder will obviously also net you more "grind" styled content.

I have 1000 hours and just tried my first grind for titles in GW; It was a mistake, it ultimately led me to deleting all my characters, associated equipment, titles . . . (was also tired of using alts as storage). Now Playing a (Single) new character from scratch and loving it. (Starting from scratch = get to lvl 20 in a few hours and begin questing with a new profession.) Starting from scratch is the best way to play GW. Three continents to conquer. I might even try PuGing more, of which will obviously involve all the time sinks and failures inherent with PuGs; making the game about 3-5 times more difficult. Oddly, deleting all your characters can revitalize a grind tired player. Titles are great up until players hit the grindy parts for the final ranks. Titles should be linked to content only (and many are), even repeatable content. Kill quests are not content, and should only be a side dish; should be classified as something other than content for future development purposes, as it's more like content padding. But I digress.

All in all, the game quality per dollar spent is still unmatched for GW. No game even comes close. And, as far as MMOs go, GW, is still the best one I've ever played, irregardless of dollar value.

I'm just hoping I can get through all the PvE content Arena Net has given us, on a single character before GW2 overshadows everything. Only PvP alts need apply . . .

You are correct starting at least one character from scratch and starting over is a cleansing experience.

This will keep you busy for awhile at least until they come out with the "Kingdom of the Dredge" expansion set

That we have been all waiting for.










Doing a little Day Dreaming on the Dredge thing

I actually agree with this. Heroes took a large social aspect out of the Guild Wars PvE community. Personally I bought Guild Wars to play with other people, not AI, and to even think about playing with humans nowadays in pretty much most elite areas you have to grind rank for Ursan which you have to specifically buy Eye of the North for.

Realistically no matter which way you have it we can't win. Personally I prefered Guild Wars pre-Nightfall myself.

Hehe, I've been playing since Beta, and about a year ago I cleansed all of my PvE characters in favour of just one to work on it solidly for titles, wealth, and fame. Surprisingly it is actually quite a cleansing experience to do so and alot more rewarding to work on just one character than several at once.

Told you. They should add random quests. As I said here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?p=2279798

Then PvE will never end.

im ready for gw2.. gws1 has just lost.. everything..

Im about ready to move on too, GW is great its just been a few years and its time for something new. I seriously wish they would put out some new kind of content or something. Like a couple 10 bucks bonus packs with new elite areas or something or... well anything!
BTW is there a skill balance coming?

Ahg....I....You...*starts seizuring and foaming at the mouth* ......SO MUCH HATE.....FOR ONE PERSON.... lol sorry, but I can't help but hate anything that finds ectos farming fun. Could you please explain? o.0

Would being an Ursan be any different from the only two other builds groups would allow you to join with? SS and MM? There is no friggin difference, its all cookie cutter, leave ursan alone.

No, they didn't. Heroes and inscriptions were the best things to happen to PVE in a very, very long time...

By your standards, Ursan is saving PVE by encouraging PUGS (which might well be one of the reasons Anet won't do anything about it)

heck I'm not bored and have well over 5000+ hours logged (and almost NONE of that was afk...I play or turn it off).....
heck I just started 2 new characters a while back (got one to level 1 survivor and finally worked on my level 2 one as well)....tons to do....
I feel like the white rabbit....soo much too do, sooo little time......though no real reason to stop (ok until the announce they are turning off my gw1 server)....

still have ldd to do with 9 characters.....and sorrows furnace and never gotten my assassin off of shing jea .................

Yeah good idea, except there is no way for a player to gain any meaningful introduction to PvP unless he joins a PvP guild that is ,

a) Active

b) Has the patience to teach a new player in the finer arts of it.

or
c) Anet make the game give better access to PvP other than RA which is awful. (which aint gonna happen)

PvE was at its best in 05/ 06 pre Factions.

Downhill since then, and recently the splitting of skills and the introduction of bullshit PvE skills basically screwed the lid on the coffin.....

Im a long time player.
Been taking a long loooong hiatus from GW.
Basically for that reason, PvE has lost its glamour for me.

I am one of those full time working, busy life kind of people and dont have time to dedicate to competative PvP. In Factions days, i was heavy into PvP, and had time to practice alot in GvGs. Sadly the last couple of years completely wipes that from my menu... no longer a possibility for me.

So for the last couple of years it has been pure PvE, yes for the "fun" of it.
I played multiple characters thru multiple storylines, goofed around with random builds for fun and grouped/helped friends.

However, as SOON as i gave in to title grinding, the game quickly became a boring chore for me. I had been doing it for only one char, and in less than 6 months i could barely stand to play anymore... This was nearly 6 months ago now...

I have logged on GW for the first time in over 6 months now, and am determined to try and just goof around in PvE, just "for fun"! Not grind for titles, as that sapped the joy out of the game for me so quickly before. The fact of the matter is, 50% of the enjoyment i get out of this game comes from the gorgeous graphics/artwork. And PvE is prime for that.

One day when my life settles down, i may try to get back into PvP. Although GW2 might be out by then, and the whole cycle may start again; i hope not.

So in otherwords, yes PvE had lost its enjoyment for me, but *purely* due to title grinding. Something i will be trying to stay away from as i start to play again. I'm close to lvl 3 Koabd, so i might just finish that to have it. But i gotta fight the urge after that. lol!

Anywhoo, that was my $0.02
eh more like a couple dollars worth of text lol.

cheers.

No no...

I played zergway until r3 if i remember well. It was when Black Parades were rolling with it. (i know it's a lame build but you can't really get into decent teams unranked so we all went through that i believe)

Then when i could get decent balanced groups i started monking hardcore both in ha and gvg ^^ i have experience it's just that pugging in HA is a pain, and i could never really get in those top guilds (both HA and GvG) since as i said i'm not able to talk much on vent/ts due to a speech disorder i have. And i understand that, since it cripples a team a bit to have a monk/midline who can't communicate with the rest.

I had my share of holding halls so i know where you're coming from, as much as i'd love to get into more serious pvp i'm unable to, and pugging past r8 is a nightmare.

Thanks for the ideas though.

PvE is fun for the first few play throughs then its all the same.
Its because its contantly the same. PvP is better because its changes depending on what sort of players/teams you will come up against.

Some PvE skills are ok and helpful to use in builds. Ursan killed PvE.
"Hey guys? anybody want to vanquish *area*?"
"Sure, Ursan, 30 minute job!"
Now you cant get the people together to make a non-ursan team so if your wanting something done you will have to ursan or go monk.

Yeah I find PvE to be incredibly boring now...

I mainly just PvP nowadays...

Titles killed the game...

Batouuuuuuuuu!
Finding it harder to log in any more - the game has simply lost its appeal (for now anyway). I blame grinding and heroes for that.

There is still a lot of fun things to do One of the funnest for me is meeting new people, and making friends.Also, many people come into this game brand new everyday, and it is fun (for me) to get into groups and go through it all over again with them as they enjoy it for the first time Also I have yet to complete all the campaigns with ALL classes of characters, so it's one more thing to do It was never a challenge, but it had a lot of fun aspects to it that for me, are still fun