Has any1 noticed that you can't buy any shadow arts runes from the rune trader? or is it just me?
And has it always been this way??? if so why???
Shadow Art Runes missing from trader?
wu is me
xPIMPx
All being bought out by people running the a/e uw solo run since the sf update I assume.
Taisayacho
Yup, people have just been buying them crazy. I sold one for 10k the other day, lol.
Squishy ftw
Thanks to easy perma SF-> demand > supply of shadow arts runes.
CyberMesh0
yeah- the trader only can give you what he has, so if he has none, you're out of luck.
Alexandra-Sweet
Glad I still have one from the old Assassin Green Farming days.
Shayne Hawke
If runes are "missing", can you still sell them back to the trader?
wu is me
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Originally Posted by CyberMesh0
yeah- the trader only can give you what he has, so if he has none, you're out of luck.
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Always thought that supply was unlimited, except the price would just increase as ppl purchased more of em =/
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
If runes are "missing", can you still sell them back to the trader?
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take_me
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
If runes are "missing", can you still sell them back to the trader?
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Artisan Archer
and have 100k shadow runes? that'd be fun..
Malice Black
I have 5 on a mule 
I'll wait for them to peak before selling.
Sjeng
Which brings me to a suggestion I've made a gazillion times: have merchants never be sold out. What's the point in stuff being sold out? Runes and insignia's should also have a max price at the traders, like, say 5k.
The same day the build was introduced, Superiour runes were already gone, The day after, even Major runes were out of stock, I just managed to get one for 150g or so. Now they're all gone, and players can ask whatever they want for one. That's rubbish.
The same day the build was introduced, Superiour runes were already gone, The day after, even Major runes were out of stock, I just managed to get one for 150g or so. Now they're all gone, and players can ask whatever they want for one. That's rubbish.
Malice Black
It's called supply and demand. The trader should run out, it keeps the market active.
I have 3 mules full of every rune/insignia, so I'm sorted. Forward planning is key
I have 3 mules full of every rune/insignia, so I'm sorted. Forward planning is key
Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by Sjeng
Which brings me to a suggestion I've made a gazillion times: have merchants never be sold out. What's the point in stuff being sold out? Runes and insignia's should also have a max price at the traders, like, say 5k.
The same day the build was introduced, Superiour runes were already gone, The day after, even Major runes were out of stock, I just managed to get one for 150g or so. Now they're all gone, and players can ask whatever they want for one. That's rubbish. |
imo every armor and weapon mod should be infinitely available to everyone from npc traders. the fact that someone might have to run less than optimal mods on their weapon because they cant find any people selling them or less than optimal runes/insignias because npcs are sold out doesnt make any sense to me.
something like the j menu with prices on everything for pve would be very good for the game imo.
Tois
OK, being as this going into Trader info, how come I cannot sell my rune of minor vigour to the trader? He says he won't buy it. Looks like it is selling for almost 2k at the moment as well.
Sjeng
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Originally Posted by Tois
OK, being as this going into Trader info, how come I cannot sell my rune of minor vigour to the trader? He says he won't buy it. Looks like it is selling for almost 2k at the moment as well.
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Destiny2097
i got lucky and managed to get a sup from the trader where it suddenly appeared when i was browsing runes. but it was gone again literally 3 seconds after i got mine. the way i see it there are a few ways to get a sup shadow rune:
- get lucky at trader like me
- farm runes
- buy at spamadan for some ridiculous price
- have a generous friend that has one
- take it off a hero (who uses sin heroes anyway?)
- get lucky at trader like me
- farm runes
- buy at spamadan for some ridiculous price
- have a generous friend that has one
- take it off a hero (who uses sin heroes anyway?)
Malice Black
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Rhamia Darigaz
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i got lucky and managed to get a sup from the trader where it suddenly appeared when i was browsing runes. but it was gone again literally 3 seconds after i got mine. the way i see it there are a few ways to get a sup shadow rune:
- get lucky at trader like me - farm runes - buy at spamadan for some ridiculous price - have a generous friend that has one - take it off a hero (who uses sin heroes anyway?) |
like you said, i dont use sin heros, why would they have sup shadow runes on them
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Tois
OK, being as this going into Trader info, how come I cannot sell my rune of minor vigour to the trader? He says he won't buy it. Looks like it is selling for almost 2k at the moment as well.
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Cacheelma
The rune of minor vigor you have is probably from the time prior to the patch that changed how runes look like (minor looks different from major and superior, etc). That's the only possible explanation aside from NF's quest reward rune.
Traders NEVER refuse to buy something simply because they have too much of it. Period.
Traders NEVER refuse to buy something simply because they have too much of it. Period.
MrSlayer
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Originally Posted by Cacheelma
The rune of minor vigor you have is probably from the time prior to the patch that changed how runes look like (minor looks different from major and superior, etc). That's the only possible explanation aside from NF's quest reward rune.
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It's because it's a quest-reward vigor. You can't sell that one. Although I don't remember if I tried it, but I was going to attempt to sell it from a different character to the one that bought it.
Cacheelma
I said "aside from the NF's quest reward rune".
So, yeah, READ.
So, yeah, READ.
Parson Brown
What bothers me is that I have a couple SA runes, and the trader is only offering me 500g for them. Surely, they must be worth more if he's sold out of them!
Tom Swift
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What bothers me is that I have a couple SA runes, and the trader is only offering me 500g for them. Surely, they must be worth more if he's sold out of them!
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I saw someone advertising wtb sup shadow 17k yesterday.
Moloch Vein
To be honest, it's pretty fun when people complain about the "ridiculous price" being asked for a superior Shadow rune right now.
That rune just turned into the most valuable rune in the game since the SF buff. Its real value is way higher than the superior Vigor rune. 1 of those equals at least 10 ecto/hour, which is 50k, with minimal effort. And people complain about 15k?
The price of a Shadow rune could be 100k right now, it would still be cheap compared to what you can get from it.
That rune just turned into the most valuable rune in the game since the SF buff. Its real value is way higher than the superior Vigor rune. 1 of those equals at least 10 ecto/hour, which is 50k, with minimal effort. And people complain about 15k?
The price of a Shadow rune could be 100k right now, it would still be cheap compared to what you can get from it.
prism2525
i can manage the build easily enough with my major rune. still a sup one would be nice
ValaOfTheFens
Good to know. I'll actually salvage SA runes from now on. 
Big_Daddy
So this makes me wonder: How much is too much to ask for the rune? I mean, there is no supply at the Merchant, so I guess I can put the price that I damn please, let's say, 100K + 5 ectos for the rune. Would that be consider scamming? Or am I on my god given right to set the price that I please since I have the extra rune?
Moloch Vein
I'd tell you to ask the price you can get for it. Right now that seems to be 15k.
sibelang
gogo farm market brotherhood with 130hp or 55 or what ever u good at xD
a friend got 3 the other day ><
this will make it appear from trader again i hope xD
a friend got 3 the other day ><
this will make it appear from trader again i hope xD
Xx_Sorin_xX
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and have 100k shadow runes? that'd be fun..
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Targren
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being the first person to sell a rune back to a trader doesn't make it cost 100k, though you might think so considering they seem to do the more of the item..the less the cost. it apparently has a cap of waht it can cost.
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Figured "screw that" and just put it on Zenmai (My Sassy got her Sup SA before the update)
Lest121
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Originally Posted by Big_Daddy
So this makes me wonder: How much is too much to ask for the rune? I mean, there is no supply at the Merchant, so I guess I can put the price that I damn please, let's say, 100K + 5 ectos for the rune. Would that be consider scamming? Or am I on my god given right to set the price that I please since I have the extra rune?
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Traveller
How are they scammers? They ask for a price, and buyer can refuse or accept it. If there's a limited supply on something, the price always gets higher. Basic economics, or have I missed something?
Shadow
I think he means "opportunist."
Div
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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
Thanks to easy perma SF-> demand > supply of shadow arts runes.
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Yawgmoth
Here comes the problem of the trader's price not really reflecting the real supply and demand. If the trader is about to run out of a certain good because of people buying all like crazy he should rise the price substantially higher and make further adjustments based on how the buy/sell ratio was affected. The price changes should depend on trader's current stock and be much bigger if he's running out of that item.
Instead the trader updates his prices very slowly over time, only helping the trader campers who can sit at him to quckly snag one when it appears for 1k to resell to players at 10k+.
Instead the trader updates his prices very slowly over time, only helping the trader campers who can sit at him to quckly snag one when it appears for 1k to resell to players at 10k+.
BlackSephir
1. Find a farmable place that provides golden armour.
2. Find Superior/Major Shadow Arts Runes.
3. ???
4. Profit!
2. Find Superior/Major Shadow Arts Runes.
3. ???
4. Profit!
eljer
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
1. Find a farmable place that provides golden armour.
2. Find Superior/Major Shadow Arts Runes. 3. ??? 4. Profit! |