Are A-Net/GW doing enough to stop Racism/Abuse?

Pooned

Pooned

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2008

Miles Militis Templum

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I wasn't sure where to post, so I put it here


I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but does Racism/Abuse seem to be on the up? Just today I saw someone by the name of 'Heinreich Goebells' (A Nazi) or something like that shouting racist abuse towards players. I've seen people join team's just to be Racist/Abusive because there charecter is Dark Skinned. I think that something should be done.

Thoughts?

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

Simple.

Report them. Take screenshots. They will suspend/ban the offenders. Simple as that.

Are they going to pour over chat logs to look for such things? No. They will only react when it's brought to their attention.

That's what the support website and the "Violation" report is for.

mistokibbles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/A

First, Guild Wars is the name of the product by Area Net. Guild Wars doesn't do anything. But what else could they do? If you get easily offended, just turn on the filter. It will at least reduce it. As for the racist names, Anet won't go through every name as they're being created and approve it.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

seriously, anyone who takes serious offence at what some numb-nuts shouts at you over the computer needs to have their head examined. Sticks and stones applies.


plus, i've never seen any blatantly racist people outside of shing jea monastery, and i really don't think this is a pressing issue.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

NOPE. Too busy banning people named Brawling Headbutt or with "sadist" in their name. Freaking useless fools.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

Its the internet. Being essentially, completely anonymous, people tend to think they can do and say whatever they want. Its no better or worse in any other online game/forum/etc...

Anet does what it can, there are filters in place for swears and offensive terms(Heinreich Goebells, not being censored as it is a real German name). EULA warns against it and bans are issued where such behavior is found. But there are a lot of players and a lot of chat logs to scroll through, so someone in a position to stop such behavior won't always be there on the spot.

So just report them and move on, they'll get what they deserve soon enough.

Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

W/

Who cares? Its the internet, and like in real life, racism exists. You can't blame people for hating on a peticular group of people.

They don't ban you from life if you say racist comments in real life.

Grow up, deal with it.

edit: I would prefer Anet just leave the player population alone unless they are hacking/abusing some exploit. Why ban people for doing things that aren't exploiting the game itself?

a-kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooned
I wasn't sure where to post, so I put it here


I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but does Racism/Abuse seem to be on the up? Just today I saw someone by the name of 'Heinreich Goebells' (A Nazi) or something like that shouting racist abuse towards players. I've seen people join team's just to be Racist/Abusive because there charecter is Dark Skinned. I think that something should be done.

Thoughts?

1 get your facts str8.
2 who cares. ignore them

KoleAurow 23

KoleAurow 23

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

R/

I do agree a little bit that there is some racism, but its not that big of deal. I only saw it one time. There was a guild recruting and it had N I * * * R in the recruting statement. I was sort of pissed that someone was doing it, but it was over and done with in like 30 seconds...

HuntMaster Avatar

HuntMaster Avatar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Around

Pillar's of Earth [ROCK]

W/

Honestly who cares, If anet banned everyone who was abusive or racist I would be the only one left playing the game.

fusa

fusa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by a-kyle
1 get your facts str8.
2 who cares. ignore them
1. Heinreich Goebells was Hitlers propaganda minister so he had his facts straight.
2. Anyone who thinks its ok to imitate a person involved in murdering millions of people is either a Nazi themselves or a complete moron.

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

R/

Ignore them.

lol @HuntMaster -- So true, there would be so few left in the game.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

If you haven't figured out how to ignore retards, the internet is not for you.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooned
'Heinreich Goebells' (A Nazi)
That was dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels, .

Quote:
1. Heinreich Goebells
There was another guy called Heinrich Himmler.


Also, I invoke Godwin's law on this thread.

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

I don't think Anet is doing enough, however its "free to play" or that's the excuse at least for few to no mods.

You can expect these things on the internet, doesn't mean you should tolerate them.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Deal with it, If you cant take what a random person is saying over the internet then you don't belong here, the internet is a very dark place.

Koricen

Koricen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

[LoA]

I don't care what people do and nothing really offends me at all. Despite this I still report them. Why? It takes no effort on my part and I hope in some way it inconveniences them, even if it's only a temporary ban. I hope the report feature isn't only for show and they actually look at the reports (even if it is only from time to time). Anonymity is no excuse for stupidity.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

I've never seen any racist remark in GW. With a total playtime of 3000+ hours, that seems very unlikely given that racism is widespread in the game. But I could be lucky.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]



Sometimes people are assholes on the internet. Film at 11.

deya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Lamers ultimate Majority

Mo/

Getting offended by a ingame name in internet game is epic fail imo. If there's millions of players around you should all know what kind of kids and retards fits in and act mature when facing some...

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

We get enough of this politically correct bull shit in life and if you cant deal with it in a video game dont play it.

Suck it up and quit your bitching.

Mac Sidewinder

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
We get enough of this politically correct bull shit in life and if you cant deal with it in a video game dont play it.

Suck it up and quit your bitching.
Lol, and by the way, welcome to the guru community!

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

yea guys its over the internet all those guys who are racist dicks are really just 12 year old skinny white kids who get there asses handed to them at school every day for playing Dungeons and Dragons. They gotta blow off some steam somewhere so they'll do it here where no one can pound the shit out of em.

Nick Of Troy

Nick Of Troy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

New Zealand.

Human Alliance [HA]

D/E

IMO, Areanet has already gifted us the best counter to all idiot/sexist/racist who prowl through our favourite cities.

*drum role* the Ignore function

Ruricu

Ruricu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

치 The Spearmen 치

Quote:
Originally Posted by deya
Getting offended by a ingame name in internet game is epic fail imo. If there's millions of players around you should all know what kind of kids and retards fits in and act mature when facing some...
Getting offended by anything, even IRL, that doesn't cause physical harm to yourself or another person is pointless. Get over it. They only do it because they know people get offended by their actions and make threads similar to this one.

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

loosen up a bit ffs

I've concluded that people that take the internet serious deserve to have their feelings hurt, in hopes that they'll kill themselves and rid the world of one more douche bag.

Nessar

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

Internet is srs business v.v

With that out of the way....
I don't see much racism besides in SJM and AB. Usually in AB it's in a totally different language >>;

So you can either report it or ignore it

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooned
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but does Racism/Abuse seem to be on the up? Just today I saw someone by the name of 'Heinreich Goebells' (A Nazi) or something like that shouting racist abuse towards players. I've seen people join team's just to be Racist/Abusive because there charecter is Dark Skinned. I think that something should be done.

Thoughts?
Then do something if it bothers you.

/report .. thats what its there for.

You think they have people in game searching thru every name made or checking random chat logs looking for language or racism??

They ban people if they get reported thats all they can do.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

I've played fps games that were far better moderated by volunteers. Comes down to there not really being a system in place for Guild Wars. Support can't be in every instance in the game and kick a troll as soon as they start doing something, so you're basically stuck with take it or leave it. And sure you can report people, but a days after the fact punishment system doesn't prevent much of anything.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Turn chat off.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Call the cops and say there's a guy on your corner telling raunchy Jewish jokes. See how fast they come. Why should A-Net waste it's time patrolling for retards? Honestly, I'm glad they're here and not elsewhere making a difference.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

/getoverit.

or

/report.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I haven't seen an aweful lot of racist BS / offensive chat going on, but when I do, I report it. (THEN I put 'em on ignore!) After that, it's in A-Nets hands.

BTW, the "it's the Internet" stuff is a piss-poor excuse for, and condones, bad behavior.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang
They don't ban you from life if you say racist comments in real life.
They dont? That would be new to me... There are many countries which have laws against racism which can and will entail prison sentences quite often (temp bans at least). You might want to get your facts straightened out first before posting crap.

Racism is agains the EULA and Anet will react to reports of it... but you do have to report it first so they can even get a heads up on what to look out for.

4thVariety

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

European Union

ADL

E/

Some people will just push for the border to see if it exist. One never knows whether they are dead serious about it or if it is just provocation.

Imagine you had to monitor a city with a population of 100.000, there is just no way you can effectively do that. But that's how GW is, it is a large place of people interacting and Arenanet has not the surveillance capacities of East Germany.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Turn chat off.
Can't turn off whisper chat.

And MAKE IGNORE LIST 100 NAMES LONG DAMN IT. I don't want to think ,,which troll to delete to put up new one'' on it -.-

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac Sidewinder
Lol, and by the way, welcome to the guru community!
lol ive been here 2 years olnger then you have I know the guru community but I like to remind people how dumb they are a lot of times.

People need to understand that the internet is complete freedom to do whatever the hell you want. There is no internet nanny thats going to hit you with a ruler for using racial slang.

sibelang

sibelang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Nottofar Island

Sekai o Oni Moriageru Tame no Suzumiya Haruhi no Dan [SOS-dan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooned
I wasn't sure where to post, so I put it here


I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but does Racism/Abuse seem to be on the up? Just today I saw someone by the name of 'Heinreich Goebells' (A Nazi) or something like that shouting racist abuse towards players. I've seen people join team's just to be Racist/Abusive because there charecter is Dark Skinned. I think that something should be done.

Thoughts?
wth...
and Charlie Chaplin should get banned for the 1st place.. but ppl even make a statue of him so wtf
if u know what i mean

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Can't turn off whisper chat.

And MAKE IGNORE LIST 100 NAMES LONG DAMN IT. I don't want to think ,,which troll to delete to put up new one'' on it -.-
I don't get this. I have never had more than one person on my ignore list, and by contrast I constantly have to delete names from my friend list to make space.

Saying "it's the internet" isn't condoning people acting like morons, it's accepting that there will always be morons out there no matter how much anyone does about it. Type /report if you're not as lazy as me, then move on with your life. It's just some kid who just discovered he can type naughty words, not the Guild Wars branch of the KKK.

Lyonette

Lyonette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[PiG]

E/

If you take the steps and pass on enough info to Support via a ticket, they will take action.

Saw a guy in LA blatantly advertising a racist guild, screened it, reported him, sent the screen to Support and he was banned.

Most stuff from kids in game rolls off my back, but this guild advert was terrible.