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kobey
Don't be cheap people, use scrolls
exploiter
just noticed the price of UW scroll...or...was it 1.4k before? 
ShadowsRequiem
doesnt really matter, ppl can buy scrolls from the trader for more then 5k each and still make a profit.
10 ectos>1 scroll
10 ectos>1 scroll
Esan
I'll bet my left nut that axing favor entirely is on Anet's 2008 agenda for PvE changes.
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Lykan
Should why?? Because of some stupid honor?
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LIKE, DF HONOR?
HONORABLE AND BRAVE IS THE BEST WAY TO BE!
HONOR!!!!
FOR HONOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANET SHOULD BE HONORABLE!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Buffy, I had to do it.
Shakti
Y'know....I remember way back in the day when I had finally gotten everything together for a set of fow, I had to wait a couple days to get in because we didn't have favor when I was on. Favor was based on who won Halls and far from constant depending on time of day etc. You'd go into a Realm, and depending on who won Halls, if you wiped you might not even be able to get back in.
Worst case now, you use a scroll and poof!
The huge favor was more an oversight on Anet's part, they didn't see it coming for whatever reason with the ss/lb weekend. If it runs out...it runs out. Still a whole lot easier than before right?
Worst case now, you use a scroll and poof!
The huge favor was more an oversight on Anet's part, they didn't see it coming for whatever reason with the ss/lb weekend. If it runs out...it runs out. Still a whole lot easier than before right?
romeus petrus
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i have a stack of uw scrolls.
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Stock up on scrolls guys.
Yawgmoth
When it will run out (based on collected data I predict around 10th July) it will finally start to work as intended - we won't have it 100% of the time but still more often than not. It will be on nonstop during high play hours, sometimes off during less played hours.
And one most important thing - the temporary lack of favor won't affect the overfarm of ectos - the farmers will use scrolls and scrolls are pretty common drop in UW, and they will continue to drop.
And one most important thing - the temporary lack of favor won't affect the overfarm of ectos - the farmers will use scrolls and scrolls are pretty common drop in UW, and they will continue to drop.
Shayne Hawke
When it hits 0, I wonder if ANet will give us back the ~42k or whatever amount that we exceeded the system by.
We ought to have a party when our favor runs out.
We ought to have a party when our favor runs out.
Ate of DK
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When it hits 0, I wonder if ANet will give us back the ~42k or whatever amount that we exceeded the system by.
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MMSDome
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
QFT
Stock up on scrolls guys. |
Carinae
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Originally Posted by Pleikki
i think its good it ends. Because then Ecto & shard prices will raise..
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I can't imagine Chaos Gloves alone will push up ecto prices very much. It's not like we lost access to UW but can still get into FoW to spend ectos/shards.
Chthon
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Originally Posted by Lykan
Should why?? Because of some stupid honor? or you feel you are owed it?...
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Originally Posted by Xx_Sorin_xX
yes..how DARE they give us a weekend to insanely boost the favor so it was easy street for 6 months. it's complete bullshit for them to give us that.
trust me. we get your point, but it's just not valid. they never had to give the bonus weekend, and without it we would have been in the whole even sooner. they give you an inch and you demand a mile. |
Steps_Descending
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Originally Posted by Ate of DK
Can't wait to see the QQ threads about the lost favor minutes to return...
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Xx_Sorin_xX
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
You cant argue against fact that playerbase earned something. 6K maxxed titles, work of 3 thousand people.
That was taken away because of bug. NOT because anet decided so.(If they decided so and didn't have balls to tell community ... what a awesome company.) Its only right to have it restored. |
Again, I understand they made a mistake and under most circumstances, should be rectified in the manner of benefiting the player base. However, this is a special circumstance. The newer favor system was, in my opinion, and i believe in anet's opinion, never meant to accumulate so much favor in so little a time. It completely belittles the point of even having favor. The bug was rather fortunate for them; it rectified a situation that was completely out of hand.
Besides, you came out ahead anyway. I believe that you'd be a person that if I said here's $1000, have fun, and then decided I'd only give you $500...you'd complain. I say this because this is exactly what you, and many others are doing now. Yes, I screwed you by taking back what I said I would give, but I was still giving it to you, and you still came out way ahead. You should be happy they atleast you gave you something. Anet could easily say, "due to the problems that pop up more often in weekend events than in weekdays, we are going to stop the bonus weekends." It's the simplest solution, and frankly the deserving solution considering the exuberant amounts of complaining and whining they receive daily.
Thizzle
What's the point when you can switch districts? Do you think any Europeans are mad they don't have favor? No, they come over to America.
FoxBat
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What's the point when you can switch districts? Do you think any Europeans are mad they don't have favor? No, they come over to America.
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Thizzle
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Originally Posted by FoxBat
You have noticed that Hall of Heroes isn't related to favor anymore, yes?
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Yawgmoth
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
No, they won't rise, because favor is required to spend ecto and shards. Losing favor means that the largest drain on ectos, and the only drain on shards is lost as well.
I can't imagine Chaos Gloves alone will push up ecto prices very much. It's not like we lost access to UW but can still get into FoW to spend ectos/shards. |
At current rates it will be on ~65-70% of the time during weekdays and ~85-90% time during weekends. Just not 100%.
And that won't make ANY difference - scrolls are common farmed drops and cheap!
romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
guarantee that aint neccessary.
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rick1027
itll shoot back up there after this weekend we got the gwen titles double rep points
ALF71BE
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Originally Posted by Xx_Sorin_xX
should be rectified in the manner of benefiting the player base.
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Steboy93
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Originally Posted by rick1027
itll shoot back up there after this weekend we got the gwen titles double rep points
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JONO51
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Originally Posted by rick1027
itll shoot back up there after this weekend we got the gwen titles double rep points
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Phineas
Well... 2 days later and the favor has dropped to 4,680, or by 500/day.
I fully agree that favor will start to work as intended when we get back to zero, but I disagree with the view that we will still have it ~75% of the time. I do not think that there will be enough people maxing titles to keep it at that kind of level, and at the very least it could become geocentric with players who play the same timezone as the continent achieving the most 'having the favor '.
For arguements sake, if most titles are achieved by Americans then the chance is that players in other continents will not benefit from access time when the current mechanic is meant to reward everyone, not just the continent with the most achievers.
I fully agree that favor will start to work as intended when we get back to zero, but I disagree with the view that we will still have it ~75% of the time. I do not think that there will be enough people maxing titles to keep it at that kind of level, and at the very least it could become geocentric with players who play the same timezone as the continent achieving the most 'having the favor '.
For arguements sake, if most titles are achieved by Americans then the chance is that players in other continents will not benefit from access time when the current mechanic is meant to reward everyone, not just the continent with the most achievers.
Shanaeri Rynale
Are'nt we owed 28,000 mins after the overflow glitch wiped it out over the last last SS/LB weekend?
Remembering a loong way back
By Sat evening favor hit 36K, it reset to 0
By the end of the event we had earned some 32K back.
Deducting the amount Anet said we did'nt earn leaves us with 28K min in credit.
*hides and runs*
Remembering a loong way back
By Sat evening favor hit 36K, it reset to 0
By the end of the event we had earned some 32K back.
Deducting the amount Anet said we did'nt earn leaves us with 28K min in credit.
*hides and runs*
Chthon
35791 minutes to be exact.
Shakti
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Well... 2 days later and the favor has dropped to 4,680, or by 500/day.
I fully agree that favor will start to work as intended when we get back to zero, but I disagree with the view that we will still have it ~75% of the time. I do not think that there will be enough people maxing titles to keep it at that kind of level, and at the very least it could become geocentric with players who play the same timezone as the continent achieving the most 'having the favor '. For arguements sake, if most titles are achieved by Americans then the chance is that players in other continents will not benefit from access time when the current mechanic is meant to reward everyone, not just the continent with the most achievers. |
Sneaky Cat
good thing I save my UW scrolls
viper11025
Id probably laugh my but off the day it hits zero
THAT would be so awesome to se all the QQ's in ToA.
THAT would be so awesome to se all the QQ's in ToA.
Abedeus
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gjasigjasg
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Ate of DK
Please let favor finaly end. Would be so much fun if everything went back to normal.
Thizzle
I don't think that many would QQ. The smart thing to do would do go and buy tons of FoW/UW scrolls which are like 100-200 gold and then re-sell them when they get expensive or just use them.
Ate of DK
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I don't think that many would QQ. The smart thing to do would do go and buy tons of FoW/UW scrolls which are like 100-200 gold and then re-sell them when they get expensive or just use them.
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Before the huge amount of favor, people were selling scrolls because they weren't available at the merchant like Shadow Arts runes atm. Some were willing to pay 2,5K-3K for each scroll. So investing in scrolls might be a good move.
Anyway, my guess would be that many thought of this allready and bought a huge amount of scrolls. Which means they will flood the market with scrolls when the favor runs out and the price might actualy go down.
Farming bosses earned more gold when some scrolls drop every now and then. And I know of enough people who have saved all their UW/FoW scrolls for that moment when favor is gone.
Also a sudden nerf to a few farm builds might reduce the number of scrolls wanted to farm. Which means that the ecto price would rise. So investing in ecto's instead of scrolls might even be better.
Offcourse the word might is a keyword in my post. Nothing is for sure.
Kumu Honua
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Are'nt we owed 28,000 mins after the overflow glitch wiped it out over the last last SS/LB weekend?
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I don't think that many would QQ. The smart thing to do would do go and buy tons of FoW/UW scrolls which are like 100-200 gold and then re-sell them when they get expensive or just use them.
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Elite scroll traders do exist people :/
I wish people would stop posting nonsense on forums ; but then again thats like wishing for worldpeace I guess .
trankle
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Favor isn't awarded by region anymore though. It's granted to the "world" through titles equally isn't it?
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Besides, you came out ahead anyway. I believe that you'd be a person that if I said here's $1000, have fun, and then decided I'd only give you $500...you'd complain. I say this because this is exactly what you, and many others are doing now. Yes, I screwed you by taking back what I said I would give, but I was still giving it to you, and you still came out way ahead. You should be happy they atleast you gave you something. Anet could easily say, "due to the problems that pop up more often in weekend events than in weekdays, we are going to stop the bonus weekends." It's the simplest solution, and frankly the deserving solution considering the exuberant amounts of complaining and whining they receive daily.
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Players maxed titles, which was their end of the deal. And, as Cthon explained above, each character has a finite number of titles. It's not as though players can go back and redo those titles later at a rate Anet is happier with. They are gone. I think it's perfectly fine for Anet to change they way they do favor, after they reinstate the minutes the players earned. But to just erase them.....no. As Palawa Joko said, "A Deal's a Deal".
Believe me, I'm the first guy to call out players' false senses of entitlement, but this is, like, actual entitlement.
Better yet, Anet could eliminate the ridiculous favor system entirely. It's always been an awful idea.
cosyfiep
hey my mes got grand master carto last night....added 3 minutes...and my rit is almost done with elona for the same title.....just cant do them all that fast by myself
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Gun Pierson
The scroll trader gives 1k for it, the merchant 500g. A lot of people don't know this and sell for 700-900g as they only check at the merchant at ToA. I even encountered a perma sin who sold his scrolls (700g a piece) and went right in again whispering me: 'That was a weird trade, I just paid 1k to get in'.
me: 'Uh yeah mate, tx btw and hf farming the globs.'
me: 'Uh yeah mate, tx btw and hf farming the globs.'