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Originally Posted by upier
Now THIS is funny!
Let me guess - you're one of those people that uses Backfire and then Epidemic and then loses it because WTF!??!?! it's bugged!1!!
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Let me guess - you'rte one of that bored fools, that is too blind to see, how much too powerful it would be to buff barrage this way and just needed now someone for your first days retarded flaming today >.>
@Abedeus
Guild Wars is still a Multiplayer game with Party Gameplay. anythign that fits not on your own Skill Bar, can be done in Synergy with an other Player/NPC#s Skills bar and for optimal Splinter Barrage Damage, it is best, when a R16 Marksmanship Ranger gets buffed by a R16 Channeling Ritu's Splinter Weapon, because like you said, the Ranger player self can't reach R16 on both and for the Ranger the build would cost more Energy, if you had to Splinter Buff with a weaker Splinter Weapon, than a Ritu could give you permanent self.
Before the nerf of Splinter Weapon, the Skill effected all Arrows of Barrage and Splinter Weapon is a skill, that might be eventually get un-nerfed for PvE, due to the nice Skill Splitting now between Pve and PvP and when that happens eventually, then such a Combo will become really imba and lke someone said.
peopel bitch all the day, when something becomes in PvE way too easy, just look at all the Ursan QQ'ers.
5-2 = 3 - say for example 40% (Ex 10) = 3 - 1,2 = 1,8 ~ 2 Energy Cost for Barrage then, with (Ex 16) it would be -84%, then it would be this:
5-2 = 3 - 84% = ~ over 2,4 so with R16 the cost would go theoretically UNDER 1 Energy, but will get roundet Up.
This means, you can spamm this skill nn stopp, because you get per second through the rangers energy regeneration 3 Energy Points back, that together with a Zealous Bow and you can spam barrage far more easily, because each single shot alone would easily give you all enegy back instantly.
The question is not, what you can use instead of the preparations to reach similar effects, the question is simple: Should barrage allow preparations or not and I must say simple: NO !! Because it would lead to too many imba Skill Combinations with Barrage, which alone is in itself a very powerful Elite Skill, because it allows only the Ranger (btw bow usign people) to hit with just 1 attack 6 targets at ONCE and alone this fact together with Mark of Pain and Splinter Weapon is powerful enough.
There it won't help even very much to let Splinter Weapon be count as physical Damage, just to stop only ignite Arrows, it won't stop mark of pain, which triggers on physical damage and then there is still the very powerful synergy with Edge of Extinction !!! that would very much benefit from that a retarded Barrage Buff.
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It is also not the question, if its silly, or not to use as Ranger Arcane MimiCRY, or not, it gives enough peopel, which surely use it, because its a simple way to get as player a secondary Elite Skill and when Barrage would not prevent the synergy with preparations, then it owuld become possible to synergize barrage with Elite Preparations, like said Glass Arrows, which in itself is a very powerful Elite Skill.
These Synergy would be just way too imba, because they would buff the damage potencial of barrage way too much. Such skill synergies all together would quick sky rocket surely the damage potencial of Barrage into unbelieveable numbers.
Barrage is an Elite Skill, balance wise, that has to be touched with VELVET GLOVES !!
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And Rangers can tank very well with all their extrem high Block Rate Skills and Mesmer have very good Defense Skills to reduce received elemental Damage (the mantras, which give also energy when hit with the element) plus that you can double with Arcane Echo the effects of the rangers tank skills.
Beign blinded is very quick removed with the Antidote Signed for example.
Marksmanships Wager, i can only agree is imo in the wrong Attribute and belongs to Marksmanship and not Expertise, because ten the Skill would make sense as Energy management Skill for rangers, that don't have setted their AP on Expertise so high.
However, I haven't listed these Skills, because everythign makes ever 100% sense, but more because it would become just possible through the Barrage Buff and only because somethign becomes with a Buff possible, doesn# automatically mean, that everything of it is also automatically good for the games balance, even when lots of people might think, that the game has enough alternatives, that have similar effects and taking that lame arguement as reason for signign such an imba buff to barrage, like as if "imba + imba" would make = "balanced" >.>
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Your poison Examples absolutely don't work, because volley also yet doesn't allow preparations, like barrage, because volley is just the weaker normal version of barrage. Poison arrow is no preparation Poison arrow is a single target attack, so volley helps there absolutely in no way to spread the condition. Poison arrow and Epidemic is enough of that Synergy but that synergy is balanced, because you hit just only 1 target and you deal only to 1 target damage to spread the poison condition afterwards.
With barrage and ApplyPoison together with Splinter Weapon you would instantly spread to up to 7 enemies huge damage + poisoning 7 foes maximum instanly, without havign to use Epidemic, which is in the end may more energy costing to spread poino with epidamic, than to use Barrage + apply poison, plus apply poison has the advantage, that it has a duration.
When you use poison arrow and epedemic, and the poison gets healed, you have to use ever poison arrow again first to spread it with epedemic agaiun.
the otherwax you shoot just as long apply is active 1 barrage and all your foes adjacent to your target get poisoned then + the as said way much higher mass damage u deal with it then, where it would took countless of poison arrows to deal with them the same damage in short time.
The developers had a good reason, why barrage doesn't allow preparations!!
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next one:
Ok, I admit, I've not thought about it, that Arcane Echo counts only for spells, my fault, but still, the imba synergy doesn't need really AE to be imba. barrage + Choking Gas alone are imba enough. AE was thought only for increasing the relative short duration of the gas, however. this synergy would allow the ranger to deal deadly mass interruptions vs. adjacent standing Casters. In pvE this would be an easily overkill synergy, because there the AI of casters gives a shit about it, if they stay too much grouped together.
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Umm I forgot to say, why Barrage+Ignite Arrows+Splinter Weapon from a Ritu Ally is so imba. I forgot, that the Synergy there was not Complete.
The fully synergy would be Barrage+Ignite Arrows+Conjure Flame+ Splinter Weapon and that together with a 20% Armor penetration Mod on the Bow, because of Ignite Arrows you don't need a Fire Mod for the extra damage of Conjure Flame. it would be exactly that build, what those Charr ranger use in Eye of the North, just way more powerful together with Splitner Weapon and barrage letting aloow the ignite arrows to deal so insane Mass Damage with just 1 Shot
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ok, next one doens work so as I thought, because again I thought only on the duration doubling and forgot, that AE counts only for Spells. but again in the duration that it would work, in that short time you would have together with Barrage+Arcane Mimicry + Incendiary Arrows an imba mass interruption + burning effect -.-
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Even when Melandus damage buff coutns only vs enchanted foes, it would buff the damage potential of Barrage way too much, because the damage buff is armor ignoring, cause of being no physical direct damage buff, but its a magical damage buff, that has as condition that foes have to be enchanted for it. in battles very much foes in pve, but especially in pvp are very often enchanted with countless of monk enchants. Eles are nearly perma enchanted to reduce energy costs of their elements. Dervs work with very much enchants also too. in short: gw's gameplay is all about enchants, theres not often a moment in this game, where you have not over long time no enchant on you.
However, I think, some comments here yet show, that I'm by far not the only one, who thinks, that such a buff on barrage would be insanely imba.
