Auto-Ping Skills
Sai Rith
I'm tired of that Nub that refuses to ping his bar for no reason. I'm sure everyone else is too. What I propose is when someone joins the party, their skills automatically get pinged.
theonetheonlybruce
na if they dont ping then kick them they just gonna screw you over in end
Chuk Charcoales
promotes elitist discrimination. If you don't like them then kick 'em, you always have that option.
zelgadissan
You know everybody would just switch their build to what they like when actually in the party. Not to mention, as stated above, just kick them if they don't show it, or even better - stop pugging.
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willypiggy
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I would however like an inspect feature, disable it during PvP to not allow cheating but allow people to inspect other peoples skills and armor, make sure they arent using a noob build.
I would however like an inspect feature, disable it during PvP to not allow cheating but allow people to inspect other peoples skills and armor, make sure they arent using a noob build.
N1ghtstalker
and when someone joins and still has to change his build you'll immediatly boot him cuz his original build is still on?
nye right it's worse enough with rank discrimination in pvp
and face it, there are always noobs with crappy builds
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nye right it's worse enough with rank discrimination in pvp
and face it, there are always noobs with crappy builds
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Shayne Hawke
If you can't trust them to bring a good bar, and they aren't pinging theirs, they probably aren't taking one. Just kick them and find a new player.
Also, stop PuGing.
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Also, stop PuGing.
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Stockholm
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You ever conciderd that other players have more experiance than you and run a build that's not published on Wiki? There is such builds you know.
You ever conciderd that other players have more experiance than you and run a build that's not published on Wiki? There is such builds you know.
pamelf
/notsigned. Showing your skills should be your choice and your choice only.
gremlin
Would never ping my build to anyone except maybe a member of my Guild.
There isn't really any point and its certainly none of their business.
Suppose they have a build you think is wrong, now you may think this gives you the right to lecture them on what makes a good build.
First of all who is the most experienced at GW you or them they may just know something about the build you don't.
Second if they change their build they will be inexperienced in using the new one so prob not as good as leaving them with a build they are happy with.
Third it leaves them open to abuse from idiots who will spam everyone else in the area with don't take the noob.
Most of those who criticize others builds seem to be of the I know what's best its on guildwiki type of player.
Its like knowing 3 chess openings and thinking your an expert, sorry you aren't.
I like experimenting with new builds and varying old ones and its none of your business.
btw when you ping your build back to them are you willing to listen to any comments on your build ? -------- Thought not
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There isn't really any point and its certainly none of their business.
Suppose they have a build you think is wrong, now you may think this gives you the right to lecture them on what makes a good build.
First of all who is the most experienced at GW you or them they may just know something about the build you don't.
Second if they change their build they will be inexperienced in using the new one so prob not as good as leaving them with a build they are happy with.
Third it leaves them open to abuse from idiots who will spam everyone else in the area with don't take the noob.
Most of those who criticize others builds seem to be of the I know what's best its on guildwiki type of player.
Its like knowing 3 chess openings and thinking your an expert, sorry you aren't.
I like experimenting with new builds and varying old ones and its none of your business.
btw when you ping your build back to them are you willing to listen to any comments on your build ? -------- Thought not
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Phoenix Tears
/notsigned for obvious reasons said by posters before
Natures Spirt
Ive noticed that people that want to see my build dont show me their build so if they dont show me their build I wont show mine /NOTSIGNED
GoodApollo1234
/Notsigned x 10000000000000
Personally, I've never had a problem pinging my build, but forcing someone to do it just seems to me like pure elitism. Anet designed GW for players who want to be able to enjoy the game without heavy influence from other players, and this proposition destroys that.
Personally, I've never had a problem pinging my build, but forcing someone to do it just seems to me like pure elitism. Anet designed GW for players who want to be able to enjoy the game without heavy influence from other players, and this proposition destroys that.
The Meth
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Better off kicking noobs from the group then implementing a feature that makes up for their stupidity.
In the .001% chance of someone actually finding a new and incredible build that the other million people playing missed who also just happens to be pugging they are gonna be showing it off, not hiding it like a moron and asking people to take them on faith. Those who hide their builds can be pretty much universally categorized as idiots, or at the very least players who have no intentions for teamwork.
Better off kicking noobs from the group then implementing a feature that makes up for their stupidity.
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
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You ever conciderd that other players have more experiance than you and run a build that's not published on Wiki? There is such builds you know. |
It's A Me
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pointless and unnecessary
pointless and unnecessary
Franco Power
Call me a elitist prick (whch I know I am so I don't really care).
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Stockholm
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Originally Posted by The Meth
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Better off kicking noobs from the group then implementing a feature that makes up for their stupidity. In the .001% chance of someone actually finding a new and incredible build that the other million people playing missed who also just happens to be pugging they are gonna be showing it off, not hiding it like a moron and asking people to take them on faith. Those who hide their builds can be pretty much universally categorized as idiots, or at the very least players who have no intentions for teamwork. |
The Red Messenger
hmm....
an interesting idea, but i think this would promote more arguing before a group gets going. maybe give the leader and leader only the option to look at the party's builds. maybe a drop-down list on the party bar. this would give him an idea of what the team looks like without promoting every party member to give his 2 cents on every build.
an interesting idea, but i think this would promote more arguing before a group gets going. maybe give the leader and leader only the option to look at the party's builds. maybe a drop-down list on the party bar. this would give him an idea of what the team looks like without promoting every party member to give his 2 cents on every build.
Mitchel
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/notsigned, I wanna keep my skillbar a secret!!shift+1
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/notsigned, I wanna keep my skillbar a secret!!shift+1
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FlamingMetroid
/notsigned
don't use PUGs
don't use PUGs
Orange Milk
/who cares
Every bar in PvE is Ursan Blessing, unless your a monk then it's HB.
And in PvP if your PUGing your failing anyway so who cares what the bar is.
Every bar in PvE is Ursan Blessing, unless your a monk then it's HB.
And in PvP if your PUGing your failing anyway so who cares what the bar is.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
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You ever conciderd that other players have more experiance than you and run a build that's not published on Wiki? There is such builds you know. |
/notsigned
If they don't show bar, just kick, because they're probably not worth keeping anyway.
Tearz1993
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But for all those idiots saying "I won't ping because my bar is better than wiki builds!", there's a 99.99% chance that your build isn't better, but it's what you like to run instead. So stop pretending you're better than everyone else.
But for all those idiots saying "I won't ping because my bar is better than wiki builds!", there's a 99.99% chance that your build isn't better, but it's what you like to run instead. So stop pretending you're better than everyone else.
Stockholm
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta
What's with people's hate towards wiki builds? Pretty much every good build that's ever been invented has been put on wiki. Unless there's some amazing skill synergy thing millions of players have missed, wiki pretty much has everything, and usually if someone comes up with a good build that works, the first thing they go and do is make a page on PvXWiki for it. Granted, there are builds that have 2 or 3 skills altered that the player may feel offers better synergy, but its basically the same build at heart.
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Thank god for Heros and Henchis
romeus petrus
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If anyone refuses to ping build just kick.
If anyone refuses to ping build just kick.
Franco Power
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
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You ever conciderd that other players have more experiance than you and run a build that's not published on Wiki? There is such builds you know. |
Because, your retarded Cripslash + Meteor shower build is not better then the 3 years old standard Shock Axe just because it's not on Wiki.
Aleta
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Originally Posted by pamelf
/notsigned. Showing your skills should be your choice and your choice only.
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Absolutely and totally agree!
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Shuuda
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- Have shamefully bad builds.
- Think people are gonig to "steal" their build, in which case they're idiots.
Kook~NBK~
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There's no need for it. Either a new member to the party will ping their bar or they won't. If they don't - kick 'em. If they do, be sure you've got the half a brain needed to recognize whether it's a viable build or not, regardless of whether it's a wiki cookie-cutter or not.
There's no need for it. Either a new member to the party will ping their bar or they won't. If they don't - kick 'em. If they do, be sure you've got the half a brain needed to recognize whether it's a viable build or not, regardless of whether it's a wiki cookie-cutter or not.
Stockholm
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Originally Posted by Franco Power
Because, your retarded Cripslash + Meteor shower build is not better then the 3 years old standard Shock Axe just because it's not on Wiki.
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Go Play with your Wammo
Age
It is to late for this and I don't think it can be done and if I don't want to show my bar that is my choice.
Richardt
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I could add to the argument about player privacy etc. etc.
But I'm not supporting this for the annoyance factor. When my guild gets ready to go, we often have several people leaving/rejoining the party for various reasons (getting dif. weapons, armor, skills etc.).
Now imagine what would happen if everytime they left their build was pinged? It would just creat unneccessary spam as the vast majority of the time what they have on their bar isn't the finished product, and once they get done they normally ping the build anyways.
I could add to the argument about player privacy etc. etc.
But I'm not supporting this for the annoyance factor. When my guild gets ready to go, we often have several people leaving/rejoining the party for various reasons (getting dif. weapons, armor, skills etc.).
Now imagine what would happen if everytime they left their build was pinged? It would just creat unneccessary spam as the vast majority of the time what they have on their bar isn't the finished product, and once they get done they normally ping the build anyways.
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
That's probably the best way. I normalyl assume people who don't ping:
- Have shamefully bad builds. - Think people are gonig to "steal" their build, in which case they're idiots. - Don't like people to tell them how to play the game, and force them to use a cookie cutter build that may be inferior to their own for that specific mission/area. |
A whole-hearted /notsigned on this one.
Omnidragon42
This would be annoying when forming groups, spamming the chat box. It's a players right to keep their build private if they want to. There's no need for it because anyone who refuses to ping is an arrogant jerk you probably don't want anyway, so:
/Notsigned.
/Notsigned.
Stockholm
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Added another option for you to consider.
A whole-hearted /notsigned on this one. |
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Originally Posted by Franco Power Because, your retarded Cripslash + Meteor shower build is not better then the 3 years old standard Shock Axe just because it's not on Wiki. |
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
That's probably the best way. I normalyl assume people who don't ping:
- Have shamefully bad builds. - Think people are gonig to "steal" their build, in which case they're idiots. |
gremlin
The idea fails on so many levels but the main one is that it has the same effect as ursan, it reduces gw to a few classes and a few builds.
There are hundreds if not thousands of different builds and ok there are a few really strong builds that work extremely well.
But as the pvp crowd never cease telling us pve is easy and you can solo it with 3 skills on your task bar.
Yes there are some terrible builds out there that fail because the player is very inexperienced but there are plenty of average to good builds that work well enough and are "fun to play".
Shouldn't that be the determining factor ? that everyone has fun.
When I started playing people just asked for what they wanted in their party as in ss necro wanted, stick with that method and don't try to micromanage other players.
There are hundreds if not thousands of different builds and ok there are a few really strong builds that work extremely well.
But as the pvp crowd never cease telling us pve is easy and you can solo it with 3 skills on your task bar.
Yes there are some terrible builds out there that fail because the player is very inexperienced but there are plenty of average to good builds that work well enough and are "fun to play".
Shouldn't that be the determining factor ? that everyone has fun.
When I started playing people just asked for what they wanted in their party as in ss necro wanted, stick with that method and don't try to micromanage other players.
Azza
i dont like to show my build cus im always told to change something, even if i have My hard mode titles up for a certain campaign, some 1 says i dont like ur bar change it, when i know for a fact it works(of course i heroed and henchied all of my Hard Mode), but this is 1 reason why i dont help Pugs u cry when i show u my build u Cry when i dont so GG ur all a bunch of retards
Lady Lozza
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For all the reasons above.
There isn't wiki hate, there is wiki compliance hate, there's a difference.
It works like this: 100% wiki compliance = good, 99% wiki compliance = kick.
Taking disease into an area of human opponents is a no-no, yet if it is on the wiki bar people expect you to take it and use it.
For all the reasons above.
There isn't wiki hate, there is wiki compliance hate, there's a difference.
It works like this: 100% wiki compliance = good, 99% wiki compliance = kick.
Taking disease into an area of human opponents is a no-no, yet if it is on the wiki bar people expect you to take it and use it.
HawkofStorms
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Considering how much of an A-hole the OP was... calling people who disagree with you "nubs," which isn't even spelled correctly... way to be a n00b, he shouldn't be surprised with the responses. Be a smartass and you get smartass replies. If you want a more serious discussion, try explaining things constructively in your opening post and address the pros and cons of an issue.
Edit: Yes, "every build ever invented is on pvxwiki." However, that also means a TON of builds exist on pvxwiki that aren't any good (if after all, every build is on there). That's the problem with wikis. User created content means anybody can add or alter stuff. I could go over there right now and find half a dozen unpopular, unused builds that are "wiki tested" that suck... and then come back and say "but its on the pvxwiki so it must be good." Granted, its a lot better and more regulated now that it is a seperate site from the wikia gw wiki, but that's doesn't mean its vetting system is absolute.
Considering how much of an A-hole the OP was... calling people who disagree with you "nubs," which isn't even spelled correctly... way to be a n00b, he shouldn't be surprised with the responses. Be a smartass and you get smartass replies. If you want a more serious discussion, try explaining things constructively in your opening post and address the pros and cons of an issue.
Edit: Yes, "every build ever invented is on pvxwiki." However, that also means a TON of builds exist on pvxwiki that aren't any good (if after all, every build is on there). That's the problem with wikis. User created content means anybody can add or alter stuff. I could go over there right now and find half a dozen unpopular, unused builds that are "wiki tested" that suck... and then come back and say "but its on the pvxwiki so it must be good." Granted, its a lot better and more regulated now that it is a seperate site from the wikia gw wiki, but that's doesn't mean its vetting system is absolute.